Chem help wit da BEAST....

[SomniGod]

The Beast (I came to find out) is not THAT original an idea. People have already talked on other forums about vaporizing opiates. My contention is this:
Remember the guy in Australia who put some licquor in a nebulizer...threw a patent on it...then got into trouble because people were getting alcohol poisoning due to the rapid absorption of the alcohol....well what's to say that an opiate couldn't do the same. I have concerns re: the responsible use of this form of administration. I don't want kids dying and blaming somnigod for unleashing the beast....ya know?!!? Anyway, my first thought was to use tea...then I thought about the amount. Which logically lead to the thought of tea reduced to putty, then adding enough water to be able to go into nebulizer. EEEeewwww!!! Just think of alll that gross goo being in your lungs...NO WAY! Then I thought about an ISO extract.... I think this is still waaaay too dirty...but an ISO..followed by an ICE-O....may actually get us somewhere!! Seriously! Now what I am concerned about is the absorpbtion and bioavailability of this form of opiate in this method of administration. Can you give me any and all insight you have to this please! thanks.

~S~

[kramorph]

I dont quite get what your asking, but isnt smoking H (chasing the dragon) basically what ya on about.Coz from experience in UK, I smoked a fair bit, but iv much,much better.I suppose inhaling would be better than swallowing but not as good as injecting. I also remember hearing about a doctor who used to inhale fentanyl.He got caught one day when he had a bit too much.A nurse found him semi concious on the floor next to the drug safe!

[superman]

" I also remember hearing about a doctor who used to inhale fentanyl"

this is my preferred ROA for fentanyl. knocks ur socks off in just a couple seconds. the trick for a decent yeild from the patches is to spread it thin on a plate with a razor, then evap it with a hair drier at the NO HEAT setting. heat fucks your yeild big time. once you see it disappearing, spead the globby areas out onto the now dry areas with the razor, cool breeze it again till it's dry, spreading out if needed. and then when it looks like you holding a clean plate, scrape that shit up (do not have any breeze around what-so-ever). now smoke a tiny little flake on some foil with a short straw, and hold it in, if the dose is right, it'll hit ya before you exhale.

this stuff is gentle if ya don't do too much, and deadly if ya do. don't let the flakes get stuck together because you WILL NOT be able to dose accurately. it MUST be completely dry before scraping to get the flaky consistency. if you don't get flakes, you're asking for an overdose.

now that i realize i have just gone on a big rant.... i don't think making pharmaceutical pills or poppy straw extract is worth the effort really.... but that may be cause i like to slam....

[SomniGod]

don't knock it till you've nodded on it superman. I understand the love of the rush...hot pulse through the muscles...man...I know! But when meds/dope run out or money is an issue...pods can take care of the most tolerant of souls...that's FOR REAL. I would suggest laudanum or browning an ISO rip....they will give you that great glow just takes more than 12 secs... about 22 minutes for onset to begin...for me anyway.


And can you remember the last time you didn't have to redose for 18 hrs?!?!!?! Only pods keep me good all day (although the 18 hr thing has dwindled itself down now to about 8-10 hrs....)


~S~

[kramorph]

Its just growing and then somehow swallowing the foul tasting bastards. Too fucken hot here half the time except the middle of winter, but then not enough sun to grow anything bigger than ya thumb.And the bloody snails,slugs and caterpillars,like lettuce leaves but with a nice kick.No wonder all the garden critters love em.

[jacky]

Ive seen nice pod arrangements being sold at one of the flower shops in Pikes Street Marketplace in Seattle.......

Poppy pods grow in some areas of the northwest/california/nevada/montana around the sites of old mining camps.
I have also seen poppy pods growing at scenic stops in the mountains, where people pull up the truck and put the tailgate down and eat a poppy seed muffins or some other poppy seed product where the seeds are whole.
CAMP FOLLOWERS.

I have seen some great deals lately on poppy arrangements. seems like a real seasonal deal considering prices. demand isnt probably as much as people think, some places stock them year round. common prices fluctuate between 10-100$ per pound.

I am going to grow Papaver Fugax this year hopefully. I have seed packets I talked a botanical society in canada into selling me.....this is a turkish poppy. no morphine or codeine to my knowledge. the poppy does contain other alkaloids, precursors to oripavine compounds, and the morphine precursor salutaridine I think. I am interested in growing for seed production, as it is a legal plant to grow, and looks similiar to the opium poppy. the seed availability is rare, at least I cant find a company selling the seeds. this botanical society in canada made me promise that they were not to be resold.....so I will have to grow some seed myself to sell. this poppy has had its name changed at least once. the previous name is what all the technical data is tied to.

[blahblahblah]

How about mixing up a couple bags of white with saline and throwing the solution into a nebulizer, rapid absorbsion into the lungs. Dangerous but just throwing out an idea, into the minds of madness...