Opiates, cognition and problem behaviours

[Hammerhead]

I just googled bupe and cognition, coz I noticed Bupe makes me dumb at work.
I work in a library WTF:confused:

Both methadone- and buprenorphine-treated opioid-dependent patients frequently show cognitive deficits in attention, working memory, and verbal memory.http://www.biomedcentral.com/1472-6904/7/5

In healthy volunteers iv administration of buprenorphine is associated with significantly inferior performance in neuropsychological tests, however large inter-subject variability is observed. The time to onset and duration of the cognitive and psychomotor impairment of buprenorphine is determined by a slow distribution to the effect sitehttp://www.farma.ku.dk/index.php/2007-12-17-PhD-defence-Mette/4857/0/

I work well on Smack, focus well, prioritise multi tasking. I read somewhere (here perhaps) that Morphine can have an improvement in learning abilities.
I was researching the topic well, but like a good little dumb junkie I had my Bupe today and I got sidetraxcked by term"heroin problem behaviours." Couldn't work what exactly they were, except for the ones that criminalise us. Like I take Heroin, No Problem, I Behave. Unless I get caught :rolleyes:

Anybody got any more ideas on how the different opiates affect learning and cognitive abilities. Also with comparison to Benzo's and Amphetamines post burnout.

I originally wrote a much longer more detailed post, but needed more info and got confused.
Whadda ya reckon...I am on Bupe:o

[mikells43]

bupe gives me energy and helps me thru the day. i dont know why it dont u. mabey try staying on it for a while. it tok a few months for me to get leveled off but now im greeat

[roxi*stardust]

Probably more likely that other opiates help you focus and that the Bupe does not give that effect. Let me ask you this; have you ever been diagnosed with ADHD? My hubby was taking mad amounts of his RX for Oxycodone IR because it controlled his attention span and racing thoughts. Once he was diagnosed with ADHD and given Adderall, he doesn't binge on his pain meds as much anymore.

[chopstix]

A bit of irony in this thread?

[GoddessofRATs]

One of the reasons i use opiates is because it helps my ADD, i don't have ADHD, i only have the ADD, i don't have the hyperactivity, which is common with females and ADD/ADHD, usualy it's the boys who have the hyperativity.

One day I'd like to get on meds for my ADD but i doubt any doc would script me Adderall while being on pain management meds. I guess i could just not tell the doc I'm on pain meds but I'd have to pay cash for the Adderall or whatever he script me. But, wouldn't this flag me with the government- being scripted pain meds and ADD meds? If not, shit, i might just do it. How much does an adderall script usually go for, are they expensive.

That's just one reason i use opiates, it controls my ADD. But, i have other reasons as well LOL.

GOR

[mikells43]

I kno people that are on bupe and add/adhd meds. I used opaites to pay attn too. i could sit online and be social all nite long on oxy or whatever opiate. in fact thats what i did. sat here and fucking chatted to people. kinda like people do weird things when they tweak. i was like that on opiates. my last desk (comp desK) was all over smash marks in the wood. i had to get a new desk when i got clean cause it was a trigger seeing those smash marks cause i used dollar bills and quarters to smash my pills. anyhow. i have noticed being clean that i can pay attn, and can have patients. i have better paitents that non addicts lol. it does come back when ur sober for a while. trust me im proof of it.

[cg5]

bupe should give you more enegery becuase is it synthesised from thebaine? methadone on the other hand has more of a depressant effect? correct me if im wrong... just my 2cents

[Suboxstitute]

bupe should give you more enegery becuase is it synthesised from thebaine? methadone on the other hand has more of a depressant effect? correct me if im wrong... just my 2cents

Yeah - it SHOULD, I know - and lots of people say bupe does give them energy once they're stable on a dose, but for me? No way. I've decreased my dose from 24mg to around 6-8mg daily over the past 3-4 months since I started.

And I'm more tired now that when I started. And one of the reasons I LOVED opiates... (real ones... I know bupe is an opiate but it acts differently) was the energy. At the end, of course, I had to take WAY too many pills to get the same effect, and it was becoming undoable in more ways than one. Hence the bupe.

I miss the energy and the motivation. it could be something completely unrelated, but the timing was when I started bupe. I am SO tired but I can't really sleep.

I can concentrate and focus on bupe, but only under extreme pressure (deadlines, etc.)...

[EleusisII]

Ehm...

Both methadone- and buprenorphine-treated opioid-dependent patients frequently show cognitive deficits in attention, working memory, and verbal memory.


I work well on Smack, focus well, prioritise multi tasking. I read somewhere (here perhaps) that Morphine can have an improvement in learning abilities.
I was researching the topic well, but like a good little dumb junkie I had my Bupe today and I got sidetraxcked by term"heroin problem behaviours."


Case in point? ;)

[pharmboy]

It's so like society ( I was going to say the government ) to twist

shit like this around. Look at every drug thats illegal and the reason

isn't because it's bad for you ( not counting meth ) it's because

THEY want to dump on some part of society. So when THEY let you

use a drug to get off another drug you can bet your ass it wont

be to your benefit.