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Sgt_Rock
01-21-2006, 07:24 AM
I keep seeing people on t.v. (like celebrities that are drug addicts or people on shows about drug addiction,ect.) who have been taking opiates for years (thus should have a pretty good tolerance to them) talking about how great vicodin is or how they are addicted to vicodin,ect but on two seperate ocasions I have taken 7 vicodin and both times felt NOTHING. I know I have a strong tolerance but with vicodin addicts saying how it takes 4 pills to get high you'd think 4,5 or 6 would do the job but nothing. P.S. I know they were real they came from a neighborhood pharmacy. P.P.S. I cant get high on 5,6 or 7 darvocet either. Do I just have a helacious tolerance? P.P.S. Once I crushed and snorted 4 40 mg (the strong ones) oxycontins and although i felt relaxed i didnt get high. My fiend says that i do get high but i just dont know what to look for but with opiates YOU KNOW when your high,right? Whats my problem? P.P.P.S. by the way,do vicodin contain acetaminophen/tylenol like other pills like tylenol 3's? If so i woulent want to take too many but if not maybe Ill try 10-12 vicodins. wishin' I could get high...Peace.

exitwound
01-21-2006, 03:06 PM
Don't ask me, man! I find hydros to be a hell of a lot less addictive than say, air or water....

Laudanum
01-21-2006, 05:48 PM
they were great for me too long ago after a real bad motorcycle accident. i would feel all floating and happy (and pain free). eventually two didn't do it, then three, then they switched me to ms-contin.

you can still buy vic's or lortab, lorcet, norco, and half a dozen others through these "online pharmacies" at about $1/pill. i used to get 120 norco (10/325) for $120 from one site with *their* perscription and through *their* pharmacy.

do they have acetaminophen/tylenol ? yes, definitely. that's what the 325 in (10/325) means. if you have liver problems try to keep it to a minimum. some material i read stated that the aceto actually enhances the pain killiing aspect - not the buzz.

from the sound of it, i would say you have some sort of natural resistance to opio's. 4 oxy would knock me on my keister even with my present tolerance. too bad. maybe you should try poppy tea because you can make it as strong as you want. it isn't that expensive either.

~L~

insaneike
01-21-2006, 06:12 PM
Wel hydro is one the weakest opiates... some never feel shit from it. I never have either. Even did a CWE on 120mg(i guess i got around 80mg in me) and felt nothing but kind of a headache! I also didn't really get high on a OC40 the first time i ever tried opiates and shit. Took me 60-80 to get there. Everyones different I guess... but yeah it fucking sucks eh?

But try doing something better than hydros and darvos :p

later

stingray1784
03-07-2006, 01:07 AM
Yah, like laud said, they do have acetaminophen (tylenol) in them, and you have to be careful, cuz too many vikes or s at once can be a real kick-to-the-nuts for your liver. if you're gonna do alot at once (like i think around 4500 or more mg.s of acetaminophen at once), you're better off saving your liver and doing a CWE.

ontario_opiophile
03-07-2006, 01:20 AM
I used to get buzzed off of percocet which is kinda like vicodin, except percocet has oxycodone in it and vicodin has hydrocodone. They are both similar and contain acetaminophen. I would get a good buzz off of like 1-2 percocet back in the day. I can still get a little buzz off of 1-2 percocet. Nothing like I used to though. It's probably not that abnormal not to get high off of a few vicodin. Some people have higher tolerances or don't feel opiates the same way as others. Oxy isn't that powerful. It's a nice buzz but taking 40mg orally isnt like shooting up or something. It just makes you itchy and relaxes you. I find that Oxycodone has a ceiling to it. I find that once you take a few you don't get a buzz if you take more. When i take 20mg of oxy another 20mg won't do much and if I try to take more I just end up getting sedated and I feel that dirty overdose feeling. Lots of people like it though. I just find that it's not something you can pop constantly. I've never actually had vicodin so I can't really speak for it. I've seen it on tv though in a few shows. Eminem always mentions it in his songs too or he did like 5 yearss ago when I listened to him as a teen lol. I don't even know if we have vicodin in Canada. I've never even seen any hydrocodone here. Take care, Peace :)

blahblahblah
03-07-2006, 03:01 AM
Try not to take more than 4 grams of acetaminophen a day or else your body wont be liking you too much. Its ok on rare occasions but if your a everyday user and getting into high levels of acetaminophen look into cold water extractions. Your Liver will thank you, certainly if your a heavy drinker on top of a pill head.

The one with out seeds

doctor diesel
03-07-2006, 07:56 AM
I used to get buzzed off of percocet which is kinda like vicodin, except percocet has oxycodone in it and vicodin has hydrocodone. They are both similar and contain acetaminophen. I would get a good buzz off of like 1-2 percocet back in the day. I can still get a little buzz off of 1-2 percocet. Nothing like I used to though. It's probably not that abnormal not to get high off of a few vicodin. Some people have higher tolerances or don't feel opiates the same way as others. Oxy isn't that powerful. It's a nice buzz but taking 40mg orally isnt like shooting up or something. It just makes you itchy and relaxes you. I find that Oxycodone has a ceiling to it. I find that once you take a few you don't get a buzz if you take more. When i take 20mg of oxy another 20mg won't do much and if I try to take more I just end up getting sedated and I feel that dirty overdose feeling. Lots of people like it though. I just find that it's not something you can pop constantly. I've never actually had vicodin so I can't really speak for it. I've seen it on tv though in a few shows. Eminem always mentions it in his songs too or he did like 5 yearss ago when I listened to him as a teen lol. I don't even know if we have vicodin in Canada. I've never even seen any hydrocodone here. Take care, Peace :)


As far as I can tell hydrocodone seems peculiar to the USA, cos there aint no such stuff in the UK. We don't get vicodin either. All we have is codeine, dihydrocodeine (which is meant to be twice as powerful, but I think it only does half as well as codeine) then prescription tramadol, and after that prescription oxycodone for the very rare, lucky few who can exhibit real bad chronic pain. It's so difficult to get a script for oxys here though, that I've never met anyone who's had them.
For all the US DEA war on drugs, I think we're an awful lot more repressed over this side of the Pond.

YourDoc. ;)

Ogre
03-07-2006, 09:18 AM
I've taken ungodly amounts of hydros and felt almost nothing at all, it does help very slightly if I'm sick though. Oxy on the other hand..I can catch a slight feeling off of it but my liver takes a beating for it. OC's don't have any APAP in them though.
Almost no pill can make me nod now it seems...shooting dope comes with a price :(

doctor diesel
03-07-2006, 09:40 AM
I've taken ungodly amounts of hydros and felt almost nothing at all, it does help very slightly if I'm sick though. Oxy on the other hand..I can catch a slight feeling off of it but my liver takes a beating for it. OC's don't have any APAP in them though.
Almost no pill can make me nod now it seems...shooting dope comes with a price :(

Yep, that sure is sad. What about poppy tea though - that should work, shouldn't it?

YourDoc

mmnyc9
03-07-2006, 09:50 AM
Vicodin got popular in the 80s and 90s in the US. It's been around for a long time. I think you could get this without a Trip Scrpit in the late 80s, A bunch of people got hooked but good eating a bottle a day 70- 90 pills, nuts huh

Ogre
03-07-2006, 10:02 AM
What about poppy tea though - that should work, shouldn't it?

YourDoc

Tea seems to hold me pretty well (I do have to take HUGE amounts though). The biggest problem with the tea is that it's always given me wicked bad heart burn...sometimes to the point of the pain spreading up my neck and giving me such a headache it can ruin my buzz. Of course once you start shooting up H almost nothing else will do....(unless your getting really sick).

satori
03-07-2006, 11:27 PM
Wel hydro is one the weakest opiates... some never feel shit from it. I never have either. Even did a CWE on 120mg(i guess i got around 80mg in me) and felt nothing but kind of a headache! I also didn't really get high on a OC40 the first time i ever tried opiates and shit. Took me 60-80 to get there. Everyones different I guess... but yeah it fucking sucks eh?

But try doing something better than hydros and darvos :p

later

It may be weaker then heroin but to say its one of the weakest is crazy. Codeine, propoxyphene, diehydrocodine are much weaker then hydrocodone. WHen you take 200mg of morphine a day, yea you wont feel 20mg of hydrocodone. But if you have no tollerance, hydrocodone is just below oxycodone, but above those others listed. Remember hydrocodone is converted to Hydromorphone (thats it right?) like codeine is converted to morphine.

ZodiacKiller
03-08-2006, 12:55 AM
I've taken ungodly amounts of hydros and felt almost nothing at all, it does help very slightly if I'm sick though. Oxy on the other hand..I can catch a slight feeling off of it but my liver takes a beating for it. OC's don't have any APAP in them though.

I completely agree--it seemed that once my tolerance got around 80mg oxy or 2-3 bags of heroin to get where I wanted to be, the hydrocodone/Vicodin just stopped working. I'd get this kind of "almost high" feeling (don't know how to describe it better), and a gut ache from the apap. I had a really good connection for it that I had to let go 'cause it just felt like throwing money away.

ZodiacKiller

blahblahblah
03-08-2006, 06:07 AM
But if you have no tollerance, hydrocodone is just below oxycodone, but above those others listed.

I dont know if I would go that far as to say its just below oxycodone. What about Morphine or Meperidine, and to a lesser extent some might say Pentazocine or Butorphanol would stand the test of strength against Hydrocodone. Its really an individual preference certainly when speaking of no tolerance. In that case I would even say Buprenorphine is below Oxycodone and stronger than Hydro. Some might argue Buprenorphine is stronger than Oxycodone on a milligram by milligram basis. There are even more opiates out there that I could rank between Hydro and Oxycodone. Opiates are so individualized in potency when coming from a no tolerance view point.

PRIZEFIGHTERINFERNO
03-08-2006, 08:36 AM
I get 150 norcos (10/325) a month. I love them. If someone says they cant get an awesome high on them you need to take more, i get up to 100 mgs and chill at that point maintaining an excellent high; euphoria, nods (which i love), and an altogether feeling of power over my pain. I llove them if they dont get ya off ftake more or there is some biological or tolerance thing going on. I also can pound down oxys like the best of em'....i dont know i love and almost prefer Norcos.Peace to all

THEPAINTER1960
03-08-2006, 05:39 PM
I get 150 norcos (10/325) a month. I love them. If someone says they cant get an awesome high on them you need to take more, i get up to 100 mgs and chill at that point maintaining an excellent high; euphoria, nods (which i love), and an altogether feeling of power over my pain. I llove them if they dont get ya off ftake more or there is some biological or tolerance thing going on. I also can pound down oxys like the best of em'....i dont know i love and almost prefer Norcos.Peace to all
I dont know i felt the same way for years i loved my lortab. Untill someone dropped me off a 100 millagram MS-CONTIN .Life changed. peace

psilocybin
03-18-2006, 08:27 PM
because the are idiots vicodin has Acetaminophen in it which is not safe to take.In large amounts it can cause liver damage.The same goes to T3s.

http://www.erowid.org/pharms/hydrocodone/hydrocodone_dose.shtml

So be careful

Coddfish
03-19-2006, 06:55 AM
I have heard countless stories in the meth clinics of people who were in an accident and got there first taste of opiates via vics. In fact I would say many habits, if not most of them, start with hydros. Mine did. I think they tend to come with long prescriptions, so people get used to that lovin' feeling. Iwas on em off and on for over a year. It was really f'n good for me. Loved em' ,but they stabbed me in the back.

THEPAINTER1960
03-19-2006, 12:09 PM
I have heard countless stories in the meth clinics of people who were in an accident and got there first taste of opiates via vics. In fact I would say many habits, if not most of them, start with hydros. Mine did. I think they tend to come with long prescriptions, so people get used to that lovin' feeling. Iwas on em off and on for over a year. It was really f'n good for me. Loved em' ,but they stabbed me in the back.
Yes i started with them. I used to love waking up in the morning with a cup of coffee and about 5 Lortab 10,s. But then i moved on to bigger and better things. Finally i managed to maintain on 140 millagrams of methadone.

Philadelphia
03-25-2006, 05:41 AM
Chandler Bing was addicted to Vicodin. :D

exitwound
03-26-2006, 02:48 AM
Chandler Bing was addicted to Vicodin. :D

So is Dr. House MD but they dont mention it as much in Season 2.

Also he tried to pocket some medical marijuana joints another doctor was rolling for a patient who couldn't themselves roll, a few episodes back. I almost fell out of my chair :D :cool: