How to find the "H" scene

[Controlled Depression]

I travel alot aand I also live in a mid size city in upstate NY. How would I or could I find the H scene? What is a typical hang out. I am not too keen on rolling up on some brothers sling H on a street corner. I would perfer hooking up privately. However, where do they hang out?

[antigonemuse]

for the love of goodness... please do share when you find out... having a hard time getting up on my jorse in Albany

[antigonemuse]

i did however mean horse Ta HEEee

[insaneike]

If you gotta ask...

Honestly, it's the same as finding a hookup for any drug man! Go to more clubs, ask around local bars, pool halls, ect. Hang out around concerts that come through. What kinda answer did you really expect asking this kinda shit!?!?

POPO!!!

later

[bogumil]

I dont feel very good givig you advice on this, but I think talking to the people from the scene is the easiest way. SWIM for example just went to one woman, who looked like she was using, one day and asked her. The only thing you should know is what the stuff is called in your area. Then you go there, ask her if she can get you "something brown" (thats whats said here) and that you would buy one bubble / bag for her, too if she makes you a connection.
Then you usually get introduced to the dealer and the dealer or the junky gives you his telephonenumber.

The users usually are very happy to help you out because some dealers give them an extra-bubble when they bring him a new customer.

Its a bit strange first, when you are not used to it and you have this distance to junkies cause you only know them from TV and feel kind of embarrassed walking around with someone who obviously looks like he would eat from a garbage can (that doesnt have to be, but for SWIM for example the person even digged in the garbage can, when they went through the subway :D ). But you get used to it, VERY FAST.

Good luck. And think about it again. Once you have lost the distance to this scene, you can get strong opiates very easy and thats your ticket to heavy addiction...

[SomniGod]

Homeless shelters in big cities are a good place to start... also bus stations...but mostly crack there... SWIM would try the ol homeless shelters first... if not there... make a run for the border (j/k...mexis usually have good dope).


~S~

[Controlled Depression]

Thanks for the info. When I eat my oxy's I like Barnes and Noble not bars. That why I asked. If you want blow oe e pills I would say go to a bar but I thought of H to be something diffirent. It is also true that you consider the typical street user as a filthy junkie. Once again thanks for offering what input you could. It is not an easy answer to give.

[blackdog]

i used to stand at various offramps into certain neighborhoods with handheld cardboard signs ie: "i'm buying if your flying" help a brother git right? i know how it feels to want!!:rolleyes:

[Mokelly]

did it work blackdog?

[Gabriel]

Meet people. connection is the best way. that's how I got hooked.

[blackdog]

holy mokelly, hell yeah it worked real good after the dt's rolled up on me and gave me a ride to central booking,shit there i made all the connects i'd ever need in fact i got a couple a samples while i was waiting. oh myyyyyy oww owwwww lol- peace and let's be carefull out there folks da/dawgg:cool: :rolleyes: ........anyone looking to buy a bridge real cheap???????:rolleyes:

[exitwound]

Heh, ROFL.....good thread going here. :cool:

Now what I want to know is how to score H in the middle of the sticks! There isn't an inner city slum or a drug den within 50 miles! :(

[milky_tears]

I don't mean to sound like a dick, but the simple fact is- If you NEED it- You WILL find it!

[poppy]

I don't mean to sound like a dick, but the simple fact is- If you NEED it- You WILL find it!
I agree with Milky. We've always managed to score whilst on holiday when we've inevitably run out of gear before we should have done.....
Also a few years back this Australian couple were here in the UK on holiday and were doing some agency work to earn some extra cash. Within 2 days they had sussed out my boyfriend out as an opiate user (he doesn't look anything like the stereotypical junkie ie skinny,spotty,lank hair,dirty clothes etc. he's 42 6ft 3" weighs 15 stone and is reasonably muscley with short clean hair and clothes) and we were happy to help them in their quest once we'd sussed them out a bit.
Certainly here in the UK if you discreetly observe town centre chemists shortly after they open a few days running in more or less any British town centre, sooner or later us smack heads will materialise to pick up our methadone scripts. Usually someone will help you score. Good Luck!!!! :)
PS that is not to say that we are not wary, we are!!! The drug squad are a constant hassle and it pays to be alert to the fact that they are about. After all if you score for an under cover policeman/woman you get charged with both possession and supply.
PPS There's also the danger of being ripped off.:mad: Never a good thing.

[bogumil]

... Within 2 days they had sussed out my boyfriend out as an opiate user (he doesn't look anything like the stereotypical junkie ...

Yeah, junkies recognize each other. No joke. Since SWIM uses, he realizes people as junkies of whom he wouldnt ever have thought that before. Junkies have something junkie-like on them, even when they are clean and completely normal dressed. Its the carma of the drug that surrounds them ...

[exitwound]

I don't mean to sound like a dick, but the simple fact is- If you NEED it- You WILL find it!

True for many, but in my case....I just don't always have a choice. Sometimes I HAVE to be happy with whatever I can make, find, or be prescribed out here in the middle of nowhere....there's just nowhere to go and nothing to do other than that out here!

I've got too much self-control to go begging around everywhere I've made myself a home on the 'net....although sometimes it has been mighty tempting when the 9.5+ pain sets in.... :(

[poppy]

I've got too much self-control to go begging around everywhere I've made myself a home on the 'net....although sometimes it has been mighty tempting when the 9.5+ pain sets in....
I'm not sure quite what u mean by the begging bit of that last post???? I've certainly never begged anywhere!!!

[blackdog]

lets be serious about what todays junky drug addict looks like.i'll bet thruout the week you've met a couple a dozen heroin user's but didn't know it.also quite a few crack user's but didn't know it etc.etc. i mean on wall st the bathrooms refuse cans are full of used syringes and bloody paper on the floors along with some broken stems. c,mon wake up and smell the ether. somebody but not everybody is up to something somewhere at sometime just start looking a little closer. peace da/dawgg:cool:

[shaunclo]

Nowadays it is risky as fuck. It is just as easy to score a bag as it is to get the matching bracelets from an undercover. I rarely trust anybody anymore, I have been hearing a lot of stories from my buddies lately about the shit hitting the fan. I just got a collect call (from jail) from one of my old buddies seeing if I could bail him out. Fortunatley I had some xtra cashola on me and was able to do so. His story went like this, he has been clean for the last 3 months. He got an urge to get high and went out to score. He was so desperate he went out on the prowl with the intention to not go home until he had a bag. Well, he asked the wrong guy and got arrested. Supposedly, THERE WAS A GODDMAN COPPER, DRESSED LIKE A JUNKIE SITTING ON THE CORNER WAITING FOR PEOPLE TO CONFRONT HIM. My buddy said it was just like a prostitution sting. There was a paddy wagon around the corner with like 8 other guys in it. They busted about 12 people when they decided to quit. Please be careful people, go with your gutt instincts and jump ship if you feel like something just isnt right.

[exitwound]

lets be serious about what todays junky drug addict looks like.i'll bet thruout the week you've met a couple a dozen heroin user's but didn't know it.also quite a few crack user's but didn't know it etc.etc. i mean on wall st the bathrooms refuse cans are full of used syringes and bloody paper on the floors along with some broken stems. c,mon wake up and smell the ether. somebody but not everybody is up to something somewhere at sometime just start looking a little closer. peace da/dawgg:cool:

indeed.

[exitwound]

Nowadays it is risky as fuck. It is just as easy to score a bag as it is to get the matching bracelets from an undercover. I rarely trust anybody anymore, I have been hearing a lot of stories from my buddies lately about the shit hitting the fan. I just got a collect call (from jail) from one of my old buddies seeing if I could bail him out. Fortunatley I had some xtra cashola on me and was able to do so. His story went like this, he has been clean for the last 3 months. He got an urge to get high and went out to score. He was so desperate he went out on the prowl with the intention to not go home until he had a bag. Well, he asked the wrong guy and got arrested. Supposedly, THERE WAS A GODDMAN COPPER, DRESSED LIKE A JUNKIE SITTING ON THE CORNER WAITING FOR PEOPLE TO CONFRONT HIM. My buddy said it was just like a prostitution sting. There was a paddy wagon around the corner with like 8 other guys in it. They busted about 12 people when they decided to quit. Please be careful people, go with your gutt instincts and jump ship if you feel like something just isnt right.

Fucking Christ on a Fucking Popsicle Stick! :(

That is some insane shit.

What has this god-forsaken world come to?!

[hovadagod]

Hit up a couple NA meetings. Probation + NA = hook-ups.

If you go to some NA meetings, it will be obvious who to ask. Not that you'd wnat to do that but it is the best bet.

[soadwes]

I think hovadagod hit it on the nail. That or maybe find a methadone clinic... That might be a little harder tho, since most of them are trying to quit. Wouldn't be very nice to ask someone quitting where to score lol.

[shaunclo]

Well said Exit Wound, thats almost verbatim of what I said when he told me over the phone. What the hell is going on where they need to set up stings to collect up harmless junkies. It just makes no sense to me. The weirdest part is that the place they used was not even what I would consider a hook-up spot. It was just a place where there is a lot of homeless.

I have been hearing the weirdest stories about shit like this lately, Im serious, right now the shit is hitting the fan, and its getting splattered all over the place. Like I said before, go with your gut, if something doesnt feel right, just walk away.

[exitwound]

Indeed. This is why I steer as far clear of the black market as I can.....if I can deal directly with other opiophiles, trade, grow/make my own, or get something prescribed by my doc, then I definitely go that route whenever possible.

[ketogin]

...I just got a collect call (from jail) from one of my old buddies seeing if I could bail him out. Fortunatley I had some xtra cashola on me and was able to do so. His story went like this, he has been clean for the last 3 months. He got an urge to get high and went out to score. He was so desperate he went out on the prowl with the intention to not go home until he had a bag. Well, he asked the wrong guy and got arrested. Supposedly, THERE WAS A GODDMAN COPPER, DRESSED LIKE A JUNKIE SITTING ON THE CORNER WAITING FOR PEOPLE TO CONFRONT HIM...

???
If your friend had been clean for 3 months, he couldn't have had any drugs in the blood etc. Does that mean that in US one can go to jail only for ASKING?! Once in a television program I saw that ppl got busted for answering yes when coppers asked if they'd want to score!! I could hardly believe my own eyes but when asking some americans on the net they assured me that it was impossible to give'em a sentence cause the accused could always say that they had never thought of buying if they hadn't been encouraged by the cops. I begin to doubt this when I read your post...

[shaunclo]

All he did was ask someone (who was a cop) if he knew anyone or anywhere he could score, from what he told me (you all know how the telephone game works) the undercover asked him what it is he wanted, he stated "Smack" the guy said ,"Huh" he then replied by saying "Heroin" that was I guess the magic word. He led him to a hotel room where he handed him a 100$ bill. He said this is where my buddy deals, Ill be right back. Just in case your all wondering, yes he is a stupid motherfucker, yes I hear the craziest and weirdest stories from this guy only. I think we all know 1 of these guys, and if you dont, well then your probably the GUY!!, just kidding. Anyways the guy returned with another undercover who hand-cuffed him right on the spot and took him to his nice cold holding cell. He is being charged with intent to buy.

Has anyone ever heard of this charge before?? I havnt, I thought the same as the above poster, that you actually need to have something on you. But I guess there are a whole bunch of prostitution stings where all you need to say is what you want and they have you by the balls. I guess it was the same kind of circumstance. Who knows, this buddy of mine is kinda crazy, maybe I just got him out on bail for something he didnt want to tell me about. I never know with this guy. Unfortunatley, he didnt have anybody else to turn to, and since I had the xtra cash I couldnt say no. If I hear any kinda updates regarding this story, I will post about it immediatley.

To add one more thing, the undercover didnt ask him if he wanted to score, it was vice versa.

[poppy]

[quote][THERE WAS A GODDMAN COPPER, DRESSED LIKE A JUNKIE SITTING ON THE CORNER WAITING FOR PEOPLE TO CONFRONT HIM.../QUOTE]
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As far as I know that would be classed as 'entrapment' in the UK and therefore not admissable in court.
(I could well be wrong, by no means take it as gospel!)
Take care. Laters Poppyx
PS It seems that the police are :jerkoff: wherever they may hail from!! (no offence to anyone who may have a member of the police in their immediate family, I'm sure there are exceptions)

[paperrabbit]

no, i don't think it would work with an 'entrapment' defense in the US - first of all because shaunclos friend was the one looking - the cop did not instigate the illegal process, only went along with it.

That 'intent to buy' charge sounds like bullshit, maybe it will just get him some community service if he has no record. Maybe even thrown out.... Shit like this always amazes me - i see it on 'Cops' where they put so much time and effort into these stings to bust people for a baggie of dope or a dimebag of pot... i could think of much better things cops could be doing rather than busting people who just want to get high and forget about their shitty life...:mad:

[poppy]

Paperrabbit, I agree cops could be doing much more useful things with taxpayer's money instead of busting people who just want to get high and forget about their shitty life...:mad: Yep they could be doing something much more useful like catching criminals for instance!!!

[HistoryofMadness]

I agree, its sounds like BS. However I have heard of 'conspiracy to sell / buy' which is basically intent... I do know if you try to buy dope from a cop they will take you to jail if they have to make up a charge... kinda like running a red light in front of a cop (which I did once but it was yellow)...

I wanted to add though that this is bullshit, as we all agree, but cops wouldn't set these traps if junkies wouldn't fall for 'em... most junkies go to the clink for not paying attention.
-H




That 'intent to buy' charge sounds like bullshit, maybe it will just get him some community service if he has no record. Maybe even thrown out....

[diditagain]

I dont think its a very good idea to be posting anything about where to find the scene. our government is so corrupt that dude is probobly Police trying to get the "skinny" on where to track down junkies. Havent you met your quota for the month? I love the fact that WE are targeted and thrown into an overpopulated jail full of junkies instead of murderers and rapists. Maybe my conspiracy theories stem from paranoia, but that paranoia has kept me from catching any drug charges in my 8 years of being a banger. much love and watch out family!

[insomnolent]

SWIM has never walked up and asked anyone because that's asking for an undercover cop to put the cuffs on you. SWIM cops in Bodymore, Murdaland (Baltimore, MD), and if you drive in the right area while you're caucasian, the dealers flag you down. They work in crews with lookouts that'll alert the shop if a 5-0 is in the vicinity so that they'll stop flagging buyers down or calling out product names. SWIM started out copping capsules of "scramble" that were still potent despite the cuts, and now cops shit straight off the brick and measured in weight. It's crazy. One doesn't even have to be looking to stumble upon someone pushing dope, coke, or crack. Most dealers sell both, or all three. For SWIM, or anyone for that matter, it's easy as fuck to cop off the street, and if you come back often you'll eventually get a dealer's number and can avoid the high-drug areas where the cops are posted and on the watch. :)

[Coddfish]

Insomnolent has it. You may hafta drive a ways, but so what? In my neck of the woods it's the latinos who run a similar racket. They have 'birds' who sing if there's piggies rootin' around. It's kindaa wierd how safe you feel when you find a spot like that. And if you don't know the areas to go to, a quick web search will tell you. There's always a newspaper or magazine story on the "drug infested" areas of even medium sized cities. You can sometimes even find street names or intersections. It's not that hard. Projects are a decent place to head to, but there are shitloads of cops, cause there's shitloads of dope. You gotta be extra careful there.

[blackdog]

I dont think its a very good idea to be posting anything about where to find the scene. our government is so corrupt that dude is probobly Police trying to get the "skinny" on where to track down junkies. Havent you met your quota for the month? I love the fact that WE are targeted and thrown into an overpopulated jail full of junkies instead of murderers and rapists. Maybe my conspiracy theories stem from paranoia, but that paranoia has kept me from catching any drug charges in my 8 years of being a banger. much love and watch out family!


i think u got that backwards. us bad people get busted and thrown in the locky with all them hardcore profeesional criminals and then we come out edjumahcated moresum then not!!!

[mmnyc9]

The Cops have and will bust you for steering, if someone ask you "where can I cop?" if you reply go to that guy over there or go to 125th St- they will arrest and try to prosecute on this BS charge. I know people who have been arrested for this. If the person scores they will add more charges. Many times it's BS and can be won in court, that's not the problem the System does this to deter, charge court fees and fines, check for warrants and send a loud signal.

[devilsdrug]

ive said this before find a prostitute its way easier than asking some on the street , this way they find you i know there are stings this way too but shit if you cant read something is wrong by the time you get that far i dont know what to say

[mozaic]

when i need to cop off the streets i almost always end up finding someone from the hood and tell them ill buy a 20 piece of rock off of them if they tell me where the brown is. usually a couple phone calls later ill have a hook up. not necessarily a good one, but one all the same. as a general rule of thumb i try to stay out of the hoods and ghettos, because like the posts above i happen to be a white and from the suburbs.

[blackdog]

it's called harrassment-giuliani style.bon of a sitch.anyway yeah buddie times have changed but the song remains the same.:cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:

[pointed]

I travel alot aand I also live in a mid size city in upstate NY. How would I or could I find the H scene? What is a typical hang out. I am not too keen on rolling up on some brothers sling H on a street corner. I would perfer hooking up privately. However, where do they hang out?

Hiya...Honestly, I'm not too familiar with that area...But I DO have a piece of general advice that I have found to be effective....Cultivate cab drivers. Yes, yes, yes, I'm serious. A cabbie's chief source of income is procurement whether it be girls, weed, cocaine, or (rarely) heroin. I just moved to sunny Florida (blecchhhh!) about 6 months ago, and I was able to find a connect relatively easily through the yellow lifeline. It is hard to evaluate the reliability of a source when it is secured in such a haphazard fashion, but if you are strung out, it is probably worth it, in effort and in the fact that it is very low risk. It is possible, even likely, that you won't score, but you will NOT get busted. And a good tip lubricates jaws, know what I mean? If you can show track scars or other evidence of use, so much the better. Just remember that there is a huge stigma associated with dope. And sometimes geographical tastes control. Seriously. Down here, crack is everywhere but dope isn't all that easily found. Crazy fuckers ;-) Give it a shot, but be careful. Luck!

Best,

Kate

[kdreimiller]

Just found this board! Nice - can never register with poppies and spend most of my time at bluelight.

anyways. being a preppy white guy in baltimore makes it tough. especially right now. if you dont have a number - forget about getting served. the spot i used to go to in west baltimore has been real hush hush and i dont have a car anymore either so it kind of sucks. so right now im getting railroaded by my middle man - charges me $10 for each fucking dime. and having too much extra money and loving the junk too much i pay it. once i get a new connect im out, but im stuck and baltimore is real hush right now.

[WarmCyanide]

Nowadays it is risky as fuck. It is just as easy to score a bag as it is to get the matching bracelets from an undercover. I rarely trust anybody anymore, I have been hearing a lot of stories from my buddies lately about the shit hitting the fan. I just got a collect call (from jail) from one of my old buddies seeing if I could bail him out. Fortunatley I had some xtra cashola on me and was able to do so. His story went like this, he has been clean for the last 3 months. He got an urge to get high and went out to score. He was so desperate he went out on the prowl with the intention to not go home until he had a bag. Well, he asked the wrong guy and got arrested. Supposedly, THERE WAS A GODDMAN COPPER, DRESSED LIKE A JUNKIE SITTING ON THE CORNER WAITING FOR PEOPLE TO CONFRONT HIM. My buddy said it was just like a prostitution sting. There was a paddy wagon around the corner with like 8 other guys in it. They busted about 12 people when they decided to quit. Please be careful people, go with your gutt instincts and jump ship if you feel like something just isnt right.


I wonder why law enfArcement spending all that money just to sting some users over a bindle...
Way to waste taxpayer money. I'm sure that when users get busted in stings like that if they'll ever use again?:rolleyes:

[HistoryofMadness]

Just offer to pay the guy $25 or so to introduce.. more if he's a hardass... if its just enough to where he can't say no, he'll do it. Since he is being an asshole (by charging 100% commission, that's just a dick!) you should too - if he doesn't introduce, walk away with the money. Just say you can't afford the habit at these costs. Do this more than once if you have to, and then start talking about making a new connection.

It is up to us to not get screwed. Middle men who are screwing you for more than just a chip for helping will always take what they can get... if you offer them less, and show you mean it, they will take it. Rules of being a junky are simple: be able to score for yourself and not get screwed, be able to hit yourself and not miss, and be able to carry and dispose of your rigs without getting caught.

[kdreimiller]

YEah, I'm pretty much to that point where I have to say, I can't afford you anymore. But the sucker I am, since I dont have a replacement connect, I keep going back because I dont want the WDs. Even though they wont be more than a day of shits and a couple days of being blue. I need some will power!

[vaxn8]

kd-

I'm in the same area as you and having about the same luck. Sticking with what is prescribed atm.

[simonson]

If your in Chicago (which I'm not) this might be a helpful site:

http://www.chicagocrime.org/types/narcotics/159/

simonson

[Tar_Baby]

I agree, its sounds like BS. However I have heard of 'conspiracy to sell / buy' which is basically intent... I do know if you try to buy dope from a cop they will take you to jail if they have to make up a charge... kinda like running a red light in front of a cop (which I did once but it was yellow)...

I wanted to add though that this is bullshit, as we all agree, but cops wouldn't set these traps if junkies wouldn't fall for 'em... most junkies go to the clink for not paying attention.
-H

Yep conspiracy to distribute is federal..The US Marshalls indicted about 12 people here for this recently..

[blackdog]

If your in Chicago (which I'm not) this might be a helpful site:

http://www.chicagocrime.org/types/narcotics/159/

simonson


yo simonson......u get points for coming up with that great chicago dope guide
da/dawgg:cool:

[HistoryofMadness]

Simonson that's funny you posted that, I used the local crime map to find 'hotspots' when I moved here. But I've learned the short-cut is to watch the news for a week, find out what area is being mentioned the most, and go there and look for hookers (but don't hook up, if you really want one of those look in the phone book)... its been said a million times but they'll hook you up if you play the cards right...

[simonson]

I'm unlucky (lucky to some I guess) enough to live in a drug hotspot so if I wanted to buy some of the cack people sell these days I'd just pop down the road, tip my hat to the local youth and blammo! But I'll stick to my script for now. But if only you could buy fent in London, that might just change my mind...

simonson

[antigonemuse]

WARNING - unless you wanna go broke

5-10 stamps for 25 bucks upstate-- 150 a bun tis BULL SHITE

Its a GRAND error to cop in the capital... Unless you wanna get robbed, shot (yes shot), molested, or feel like hookin

this city sux-- the scene is unorganized, and dangerous...

Id ratherr go to the peaceful streets of Paterson, NJ (can you believe i said that)

better off quitting - (can you believe i said that!!!)

[antigonemuse]

did i mention the heat. got po walking beat in HIGH traffic areas, frisking everyone... undercovers everywhere... trying to make albany the "all amerrican city" its nicknamed

gots to keep it moving... its hot round these parts

[hovadagod]

SWIM is having trouble finding any scene. Swim has adderall, perduretas (codeine 50mg XR---codicontin if you will), and norcos galore but he can't find anyone to trade with. I guess all I'm saying is I've heard about problems finding the opi scene. Even when SWIM wanted to trade his own.

[tofunun]

most of my hooks came from friends from school and people i had dated and from family, since the majority of my family seems to be quite interested in the drug scene. I didn't ever find a steady H hook until I went back to NA meetings and met this 17 year old kid who's arm was bandaged up from where he got a staph infection and an abscess from shooting up in jail. Needless to say...I knew he was the one to go to for a steady hook. I don't advise doing this, necessarily, because I had gone back to NA with the intent of actually getting clean again, I once had 4 years clean thru NA, but when I went back the second time, I ended up getting all kinds of fucked up with half the people in there, unfortunately. I would rather suggest going to clubs and parties, whatever it is you do to socialize and if you can find just ONE hook, then very quickly after, you will find yourself surrounded with many more hookups. At least thats how I always experienced it

[red26]

Its just crazy here people. Its a no-effort scene to hook up in denver and has been boggling my mind lately. Swim put a quater in the parking meter, walks a block or so literally in the most popular part of town(major tourist site) and is approached by at least two dealers. Not only is it that easy but swim got a free ten piece of coke from a new dealer cuz he "liked swim". kid in a candy store, kid in a candy store.

[andy_riverbed]

dont worry, dope always finds you...

[junkiebrewster]

dont worry, dope always finds you...

So true. I was clean once for 4 years. Went to a bar and asked a guy for a light. He hands me a pack of matches with a needle exchange advert on them. Thus started my second run........

[OpieContin]

I have used all the "tried and true" methods for copping in the city I live in and all have failed. I have to drive about 8 hours (Dallas) round-trip to score and it is just getting so old.
I have a great oxy connection here but want H. I need to find a connect closer to home, someone who also digs oxys. Well, I guess we all want what we can't have. Such is life.
Oh by the way, gakk is EVERYWHERE here, but it's just not my DoC...just my luck I guess.
Blah.
Blah.
Ugh.

O.

[flipside]

???
If your friend had been clean for 3 months, he couldn't have had any drugs in the blood etc. Does that mean that in US one can go to jail only for ASKING?! Once in a television program I saw that ppl got busted for answering yes when coppers asked if they'd want to score!! I could hardly believe my own eyes but when asking some americans on the net they assured me that it was impossible to give'em a sentence cause the accused could always say that they had never thought of buying if they hadn't been encouraged by the cops. I begin to doubt this when I read your post...


Yes u can go to jail just for asking. While living in Baltimore, my husband was arrested in a similar sting to Shaunclos friend and was charged withATTEMPT to possess, did 18 months.

[flipside]

Just found this board! Nice - can never register with poppies and spend most of my time at bluelight.

anyways. being a preppy white guy in baltimore makes it tough. especially right now. if you dont have a number - forget about getting served. the spot i used to go to in west baltimore has been real hush hush and i dont have a car anymore either so it kind of sucks. so right now im getting railroaded by my middle man - charges me $10 for each fucking dime. and having too much extra money and loving the junk too much i pay it. once i get a new connect im out, but im stuck and baltimore is real hush right now.


Have u checked the east side, The light rail to the subway will take u where u need to go.(I know west is usually raw, but scramble is still quite readily available according to my friends who still live there. I was born and rasied there, and visit frequently. Am going home for Christmas, it would suck if things have realy dried up everywhere, but with the demand in B- more I doubt it. Ghetto copping sucks, buying your runner a pill to get yours, but ya gotta remeber this is how these guys get out of the gate themselves and stay well.

Check the methadone clinic on York Rd. Go to the bustop, look for the guys and girls buying and seling the Xanax and K-pins ot their meth, they'll hook ya up gauaranteed. the ones than don't know will tell ya no and walk away, the ones that hang around after being medicated are the ones you want, PM me for more info if ya want

[vaxn8]

Flip- good info. He's actually having a much easier time than when he wrote this. We live in the same area and have worked together a little. Are you saying east side is better in your experience than west? I deal mostly with a west end guy, kd uses some other guys, but I'm not sure what direction that is technically (I suck at geography and haven't lived here all that long!).

I do have a needle exchange really close to where i work, which would be east side, haven't checked it out though. I have also driven by one of the done clinics, but am not sure if it's the one you were talking about.

It's weird, everyone always says it is so good here, but it is really tough to "get in" with good people, but once ya do, life is great! :D

[Hard way]

As a fellow New Yorker who happens to live in a suburb north of NYC I can tell you that NY has no
tolerance for fools. TNT fills up vans with the unlucky and foolish all day long. I happen to have a good
street connect who charges me a bag regardless of how many I buy. It just so happens that the Bronx has
been having some really good product as of late. So good That I have been trying to stay away as much as possible or this good sububan life style will go out the window. Good luck, as others have said if you really are seeking you shall find.

[john_doe]

Get a custom T-shirt made that says. Anyone got some H or something? lol I don't really know what to suggest Go to a methadone clinic and hang out? ask some people. Drive to NYC and get hooked up by some black people who may shoot you in the head for 5 $? I'm not sure man. Best bet is the meth clinic and finding out the dingy part of town where whores hang out.

Maybe you could ask a prostitute if she knows nayone cuz they are sometimes or always addicted to either coke/meth/heroin and can probably find naything and they have connections to alot of druggies. just watch out for bad ones who want to steal shit from you. Or ask a homeless person maybe? or go to a druggy club of somesort of strip bar.

[candyshop]

yep,lord knows all black people go around shootin people in the head

[(inaudible screams)]

......are any of you into the scene in Los Angeles?

[flipside]

Flip- good info. He's actually having a much easier time than when he wrote this. We live in the same area and have worked together a little. Are you saying east side is better in your experience than west? I deal mostly with a west end guy, kd uses some other guys, but I'm not sure what direction that is technically (I suck at geography and haven't lived here all that long!).

I do have a needle exchange really close to where i work, which would be east side, haven't checked it out though. I have also driven by one of the done clinics, but am not sure if it's the one you were talking about.

It's weird, everyone always says it is so good here, but it is really tough to "get in" with good people, but once ya do, life is great! :D


Always able to score on East side, from greenmount al the way down to hopkins Hosp. The clinic is Glenwood on york rd in the city (cross street Woodburne), not the one in Timmonium( stay away from there you'll get busted). The other place is Lexington market, just look for the guys selling their pills, meth whatever, you'll find a connect

Needle exchange is where most of the junkies I know go every am. Excellent place to start!

If ya haven't found one by the time I come home to cisit, I'll let ya know when I'm in town.

[BorisB]

In LA, finding the H scene was a matter of knowing the right streets. As a 20-some caucasian guy, I was wary of going to that part and listening for "chiva" and never did. At home in the suburbs, I only connected through friends who would either go to the valley to score really good stuff or have dealers come to them to deliver.

In Wisconsin, I've got no friends with connections and am considering asking a friend brave enough to drive down to the "wrong" side of town (or in this case, the "right" side) and cruise around to be offered a deal.

[blackdog]

Get a custom T-shirt made that says. Anyone got some H or something? lol I don't really know what to suggest Go to a methadone clinic and hang out? ask some people. Drive to NYC and get hooked up by some black people who may shoot you in the head for 5 $? I'm not sure man. Best bet is the meth clinic and finding out the dingy part of town where whores hang out.

Maybe you could ask a prostitute if she knows nayone cuz they are sometimes or always addicted to either coke/meth/heroin and can probably find naything and they have connections to alot of druggies. just watch out for bad ones who want to steal shit from you. Or ask a homeless person maybe? or go to a druggy club of somesort of strip bar.

yep,lord knows all black people go around shootin people in the head


oh hell i been gettin beat all dis lookee here time !shiiiit i been paying 10$ ta get shot in the head by a couple a black guys i know but hey they is real dark black negroe mandinko warrior types. so thats why ya pay top dollar i thinks.but if ya use a milado,ya know mixed breed black/white or black/spanish ya can probally get it fer 5$ ......ahhhhhh
ignorance is bliss:cool:

[nick]

oh hell i been gettin beat all dis lookee here time !shiiiit i been paying 10$ ta get shot in the head by a couple a black guys i know but hey they is real dark black negroe mandinko warrior types. so thats why ya pay top dollar i thinks.but if ya use a milado,ya know mixed breed black/white or black/spanish ya can probally get it fer 5$ ......ahhhhhh
ignorance is bliss:cool:
Hardy ha ha.beautiful man,you crack me up and these days I don't laugth much.Thanks.

[devilsdrug]

there are some really fresh ideas gettin thrown in here , some are just recylin ideas from the start of thread retards

[diizy]

From my experience as a H user for many years there is NO scene. I am from Brooklyn New York and as faras I know all the junkies I know hide out or sleep all day and run out like rats at night to cop. If there is a scene it's probably such bullshit..every real junky is a low life and can't have friends while using due to the ripping off/stealing/parania part...ehh..good luck...and watch your back

S

[madnesscult]

From my experience as a H user for many years there is NO scene. I am from Brooklyn New York and as faras I know all the junkies I know hide out or sleep all day and run out like rats at night to cop. If there is a scene it's probably such bullshit..every real junky is a low life and can't have friends while using due to the ripping off/stealing/parania part...ehh..good luck...and watch your back

S

So, diizy, would it be safe to assume that you, too, are a "lowlife" who is unsociable paranoid and a thief? Many people on this site, including myself, would take offense to your statement about the nature of junkies. I don't know what you think qualifies someone as a "real" junky, but I would assume that it is someone who has had a long-term dependence upon opiates? If so, then apparently I am a "real" junky. But I do not isolate myself, steal (save for the occasional shoplifting, but that is unrelated to my drug use), nor am I paranoid. It seems to me that your description of junkies is more fitting to what I have seen in tweakers. But anyway, I do not consider myself to be a "lowlife" and I'm sure that the same is true for the majority of the members of this site. Also, many of the important and more senior members (and mods) will probably chew you out for stupid generalizations, so I thought I might explain a little before you just get yelled at.

[ZodiacKiller]

From my experience as a H user for many years there is NO scene. I am from Brooklyn New York and as faras I know all the junkies I know hide out or sleep all day and run out like rats at night to cop. If there is a scene it's probably such bullshit..every real junky is a low life and can't have friends while using due to the ripping off/stealing/parania part...ehh..good luck...and watch your back
S

If it's all the same to you, Madnesscult, I'll begin:

Hey newb, I'm a junky, and I have lots of friends (who don't use) and I never steal from them. Nor do I sleep all day, mostly due to the fact that I own my own business.

It's stupid generalizations and perpetuations of stereotype like yours that will keep heroin use hidden in the draconian dark-ages, instead of becoming understood that its abuse is as much a disease as alcoholism or cocaine abuse. Nice going, numbskull.


ZK

[nick]

So, diizy, would it be safe to assume that you, too, are a "lowlife" who is unsociable paranoid and a thief? Many people on this site, including myself, would take offense to your statement about the nature of junkies. I don't know what you think qualifies someone as a "real" junky, but I would assume that it is someone who has had a long-term dependence upon opiates? If so, then apparently I am a "real" junky. But I do not isolate myself, steal (save for the occasional shoplifting, but that is unrelated to my drug use), nor am I paranoid. It seems to me that your description of junkies is more fitting to what I have seen in tweakers. But anyway, I do not consider myself to be a "lowlife" and I'm sure that the same is true for the majority of the members of this site. Also, many of the important and more senior members (and mods) will probably chew you out for stupid generalizations, so I thought I might explain a little before you just get yelled at.
I don't get angry at the junky image anymore just sad.Hell,I've said it before and I'll say it again.Addiction makes me human,prohibition makes me a criminal.

[diizy]

yes, by real junky i meant long term user and from my experience when your using and have no money and have some aquaintances....I will try and get everything out of them due to my use and need therefore no such thing as a real relationship in the junky scene. Because most lightweights or even chippers fall down towards the dark tunells.

[freedomclub]

yes, by real junky i meant long term user and from my experience when your using and have no money and have some aquaintances....I will try and get everything out of them due to my use and need therefore no such thing as a real relationship in the junky scene. Because most lightweights or even chippers fall down towards the dark tunells.


then you didn't know ANY professional junkies.

[diizy]

its not an image i was trying to imply but it is a way of life....im clean now...well on subs and xanax -klonopin and the occasioal fix. When I was using yes i was a dirty rat and lowlife and have no shame to admit it.

you can call me all the names in the book, i don't care.. my experience has tought me well

[nick]

I've been using 20 odd years.Never been to jail or the hospital.It's not the dope,it's the law that's the problem.
Many addicts lead full and varied lives,it is possible.

[diizy]

well then you can afford a habit and control yourself to work

[nick]

No bro,I'm one of the "lucky" 500 odd UK addicts who get H free on script.The only work I do is a bit of user advocacy,I'm not exactly making my fortune here and I agree addicts do desperate things.
Let me put this very simply drug abuse is bad,the war on drugs is worse.

[kyuss]

its not an image i was trying to imply but it is a way of life....im clean now...well on subs and xanax -klonopin and the occasioal fix. When I was using yes i was a dirty rat and lowlife and have no shame to admit it.

you can call me all the names in the book, i don't care.. my experience has tought me well

you're the one
throwing out names

Isn't it strange
how any other forum
would have already banned this dipshit
but here even the mods are polite

real lowlifes:rolleyes:



Why do you even
post?

[Narkotikon]

I travel alot aand I also live in a mid size city in upstate NY. How would I or could I find the H scene? What is a typical hang out. I am not too keen on rolling up on some brothers sling H on a street corner. I would perfer hooking up privately. However, where do they hang out?

You know, I have absolutely no idea. I'd love to have a core group of friends to just hang out and nod with, but for some reason I think it doesn't exist. For one, I think it would be hard to find people because they're probably staying in and nodding off when I'd be trying to find them, or vice versa. Secondly, I'd say it would be easier--albeit more dangerous--to find connections for the scene on the street. Not at first, but if you became a regular. Of course that is a more dangerous route. Not suggesting it or anything, but that's all I can think of. It just seems like it's much easier to find pill heads than heroin users, for me at least.

[Narkotikon]

Yeah, junkies recognize each other. No joke. Since SWIM uses, he realizes people as junkies of whom he wouldnt ever have thought that before. Junkies have something junkie-like on them, even when they are clean and completely normal dressed. Its the carma of the drug that surrounds them ...


LMAO! I love it. It's so true too.

[remybur12]

herion is easy to find if you the people at your location. For me my friend makes are own supply

[freedomclub]

herion is easy to find if you the people at your location. For me my friend makes are own supply


Interesting code. Are you deleting every 7th word? Ingenious.

[edarrin]

Is there anyone else from Canada on here? I can only regurgitate what has already been said. There are some good ideas in this thread. Should be able to help anyone out really.

My friend runs a needle exchange so he knows a lot of people . I gained his trust by scoring for him and introducing him to my connect (who I met at a Tatoo Shop). When he went down he introduced me to his connect. Find out were the clinics are. What else can you say. It's all been said.

There is no open scene here that I know of anyway. I would start at the needle exchanges and offer a little cash as an incentive.

I have 3 friends that I cop with and use with at times . They are trustworthy and we don't rip each other off. 2 of us have professional jobs and I work with people daily who have no clue. So I guess I don't fit the 'low down junky' profile that was argued earlier in the thread. Here we would distinguish them as 'functional' and 'non-functional' addicts.

[hero 1]

imoe I have allways found pan handlers to be a great sorce on where to score(hey thats cool score and sorce are the same letters) offer to buy a bag if they score. and on to the next thing dizzy you sound fucked in the head subs and zanax are just the same your not doing as well as you think you are just try to kick the sub and then come back and preach to us about your self. I have been on this binge
for 12 years havnt had to beg borrow or steal from freinds and dont plan on slowing down.you sound like that last fuck I use to call my freind who got into to me for a grand and then said "man I cant hande this life Im going on methadone" or are you a crack head now that would explain lots

[vaxn8]

(hey thats cool score and sorce are the same letters)

they sure do hero.... as long as you misspell source ;)

[hero 1]

lol im not only a junkie Im a stupid no spellin fuckin junkie:D

[brotherman209]

wrong subject sorry didn't mean to post

[SpecialGuy69]

From my experience as a H user for many years there is NO scene. I am from Brooklyn New York and as faras I know all the junkies I know hide out or sleep all day and run out like rats at night to cop. If there is a scene it's probably such bullshit..every real junky is a low life and can't have friends while using due to the ripping off/stealing/parania part...ehh..good luck...and watch your back
S
hey ditzy- fuck yourself.

[Beautifully_Broken]

I have the hardest time finding drugs, I lived in Atanta for 6 months before i even found someone w/ weed!

maybe i'm wrong, and if so please let me know, but i dont think H is very abundant here in A-town. Birmingham 2 hrs away is swimmin in the stuff, but even when i was doin it i only knew 1 place to get it, and i dont have that guys # anymore:mad:

[Substance-P-Inhibition]

When you can't get it, it always seems to be somewhere where you are not. But I assure you, you just gotta get your ass out there and go to some grimy spots and you find that shiaaatt!

[chivel2005]

Yes if you look for it you would be able to find it.

[AWOL]

... my experience has tought me well

hahahahahaha, yes obviously it has. You come onto an opiates board, sign up, and then start making really stupid statements about what a piece of shit you are / were. Then you try to blame it on "junky's" Take some fuckin responsibility for being a piece of shit. Yes you were a piece of shit, but much more important and pertonent ,,, yes you ARE a piece of shit. Denial's a bitch. Try therapy, you fuckin need it.




Well, guess I better get back to stealin shit … like staplers from my employer. Maybe I can hawk my bachelor’s degree from an accredited University for some junk too? God I’m such a low life !!! I love when people do stupid fuckin shit and then blame all of their problems on everyone else. But surely she must know, after all she's suffering from "it happened to me" syndrome.

[Papa Verine]

I guess I'm lucky living in Chicago and knowing a little more than the average bear when it comes to copping dope. It's very easy here. I haven't been doing H for the past few months but whenever I fel like going and getting some it's not a problem. I can't find any pharms for sale around here which is what I'd really like right now. That is not a solicitation! Just sharing a thought...

[junkiebrewster]

I have the hardest time finding drugs, I lived in Atanta for 6 months before i even found someone w/ weed!

maybe i'm wrong, and if so please let me know, but i dont think H is very abundant here in A-town. Birmingham 2 hrs away is swimmin in the stuff, but even when i was doin it i only knew 1 place to get it, and i dont have that guys # anymore:mad:

Tons of H in the ATL.

[Duckfeet]

*Find* it!?

Hell, I've spent over thirty years trying to *hide* from it.

*It* always finds me, no matter where I go. Hell, I can stand in a bar in a new town, sipping a cold beer, minding me own biz...and before closing, bigger than shit, some jerk will sidle up to me, and next thing you know, I'll be doing the junky conversational dance we all know we all know so well.

Once I was in Buckeye Arizona, years ago, trying to kick a California dope habit, about 2 days into a miserable junky blues week, when the cleanup lady walks by...and you know how it is, we got like radar vision for track marks, and I see she's gottem, and I say, "hey baby..." blah blah blah, and you got it, I didn't get my room cleaned, but about an hr later I'm well and know where to score in Phoenix, just down the road.

Man, I've ran all over this country. I think after a while you just got a magnet or something for other fiends...I mean...I hope I don't *look* like a junky lol...

[jacky]

streets are full of dope, and narcs. many cameras, and a few deals that can bite you in the ass years later.

[TrentonBoy]

wow... i can't believe i haven't read this yet...

METHADONE CLINIC.

just come to new jersey, if you go to the right places.. you won't need to find it, it'll find you.

[dimebagaboy]

if your in a fairly large city taxi drivers usually know all the spots call to get a ride to the store or something and in freindly convo if he seems cool most cabbies are users also(daily pay) and they will take you to the spot they will drop you off go around the block and pick u up at least thats how it worx down here for a couple extra bucks hell sit right there and wait for you homeless shelters,labor forces,and cabbies are the ticket also check the methadone clinics i found some of my best connects from there later holla at ya boy when ya get right cuz when it comes to scoring i been in nine different states and can find an H spot in the littlest towns youll be surprised how easy it really iz

[Black_Pony]

Thanks for the good advice, all. I'm new to my area too (Cen. Valley, CA), and now I'm pumped up to go on the hunt!

Feel free to contact with local advice!

[odd]

Where I live (The Bay Area) it's pretty easy to find the dope spots. Almost everyone even if they don't use drugs knows the spots. Here it all seems racial. For instance the mexicans are the ones you want to cop heroin and coke from as they will never rip you off on the sack (it's all mexican mafia controlled) and the blacks sell rocks (crack) and bunk coke and what not. When I first started street copping I knew the spots but not how to go about it or who to approach. The easy way and how I go first started was finding a "hook" they see that you are looking and will normally approach you. They are pretty much a go between with ther dealer (who hired them) and you. SO they ask you "are you looking" and you tell them yeah. They ask what you want, you tell and they ask for the money. You give them the cash and they cop for you. They come back and hand you the dope. it worls good because if you are a cop, the hook gets busted and not the dealer and the dealer is safe because he did not directly sell to you. Now, if you have any smarts you keep the hook in sight at all times, and 9 times out of 10 they will not rip you off. What the hook gets is credit for every sale. So like my hook at the time. Every 5 bags she sold (1/2 gram $20) she got a free bag, so it's a win win situation. Once I got hip and stopped going though hooks I just looked for the mexicans with balloons in their mouths, then you know they slang. If you are new, most of them ask to see your tracks and what not. Most of the dudes who slang are there everyday, so they are hesitant about serving you, hench the jobs for hooks. I have only been ripped off a few times dealing with hooks. They either ran off with my cash or did a switch trick with the dope. However that is rare as I said the dope game in SF is all run by the MA so ripping people off is a no no. most of the street dealers will give you credit as well and lower the price if you are a repeat customer. After a few months of this and you get a cell phone number or a pager and BINGO, home deliveries.

Now for rocks (crack) it's almost the brothers exclusively who slang that. it's the same shit but in a more shady area and more easy to get jacked. Plus they seem to find you more than you just looking like you want to cop (LOL). here in the bay it's pretty simple to cop on the street. You either ask for "solids" (crack) "white" (coke) "black" (heroin) or "one and ones" (speed balls). All prices are $20 or $15 is they know you and it's for a 1/2 gram. White balloons are coke, purple or red for dope and yellow for one and ones. pretty simple and pretty easy. Since the dope game is all MA runned you will see the same people at different times. it's all based on time. so from 7:00am to 11:00am you will see the same people, 11:00am to 3:00pm same people, etc. How these people never get busted, I'll never know. Anyhow, it's all quick, descreet and more importanlty safe.

Yeah though, I have been out of town and have tried to cop in different city's and the game is different each place. The first time I tired to cop in NYC I told the dude I was looking for "black" and it was a black dude, I guess he thought I was trying to disrespect him or something and I almost got my ass beat but once I explained that I was from out of town and was trying to cop but did not know the local lingo he was cool and I had my first taste of powdered dope.

Anyhow, sorry for the rant. I guess my point being is that dealers know users and visa versa, plus if you know what to look for as long as you know where the spots are at you have a good chance of copping. yeah though when I was in NYC I found a prostitute and told her if she could help me cop I would toss her $20 her way for the help, well it worked.

Also I am not giving up anything on the Bay Area scene, the cops don't do shit to the dealers and they even sell in front of the beat cops most of the time because they (the cops)don't want to deal with it, plus our murder rate is at a 10 year high, go figure