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[rebecca]

Hi guys,Bi11i..sorry i have not kept you up to date after all of your kindess..lots of drama going on around here,haven't had the balls to do the switch. AMplanning it soon. I am not sure if i am understanding these posts correctly,but had anyone gone to www.suboxone.com (http://www.suboxone.com) to find docs in your area?You get a list of names and you call them all until you find the cheapest price!Mine also GAVE me ativan w/ it because he could see my anxiety. They were rANGIng anywhere from 400-150$ for the bup appt. :)

[bi11i]

wow, ativan. nice - most docs would cut a person off for taking such things; giving it out is almost unheard of.

well so did you find an inexpensive doc to go to? my problem wasn't the doc, but the cost of the medication itself. pretty much the same no matter where i go.

well so why the hesitation? i think you'll be surprised....

[rebecca]

Hi Bi11i!I guess I am just nervous about giving up the "Super powers" that come w/ the pills.ANd i'm not going to lie,I ,like the feeling of them. I am just worried about wehn i go on the suboxone,is it really going to help with the craving for that buzz?MAybe you can answer that for me since you have done it :o).

As far as the cost.Doc was 150. and my meds worked out to be only about 80.But-I only have w eek prescription.I am trying to understand,do some people take it for a much longer time and why?
thanks for the email sweetie and for checlking in on me :o)

[jacky]

bup can be effective in very low doses. at 8 milligrams I felt stimulated and relaxed depending on what I was doing, that is a heavy dose for me, I know people that take much larger amounts daily. I think people lose their sesitivity to it in the first week, and if a person doesnt raise and lower the doseage the effects may seem stagnant. using grapefruit jiuce or cats claw herb can keep opiates in your system longer, this is not advisable with drugs like fentynal or LAAM.the first time I experienced BUP I was coming off of pharmaceuticals, and used some IV ampules of .2 milligrams, without naloxone, doing bup this way provides almost instantaneous relief. using the product sublingually is better in my opinion it doesnt take to long to feel. It is not much of a big deal to do the switch really, there is plenty of support waiting for the right time. th only bummer is that you were only covered for a week? a month would be much smoother, though depending on how much you have you may be able to stretch it out quite a bit. some people use microgram amounts and still find relief. coming off of moderate potency opiates, a person using bup may actually get a real lift in the beginning. I have known heroin addicts using large amounts daily that left the treatment facility after 5 -6 days with no bup to take home and still didnt suffer much in the way of withdrawls. One girl was dating a dealer, and was in the 2 gram a day range, she kicked in a total of a week and a half, she didnt even use all the muscle relaxants and sleeping aids they sent her home with. the only problem I see with a quick withdrawl is that I feel it takes my body about three weeks to get past the physical depression, I just dont have energy in the day. Its fucking hard no doubt, even in the best situations. But bup is the golden road in my opinion. good luck.

[GIXXER]

hi everybody, mi name is Joe and i am new to the forum, I have been on methadone treatment for a little over a year, I had a bad dealing with oxy's. I have been slowly tapering my methadone down from 90 milligrams for the last three months. I am at 30 milligrams now and feel like some shit!!!
I have been reading up on the buprenorphine treatment and think this might be a good path to go down. The only thing is I dont want to substitute one drawn out program for another. Do i have to be on the bup for a long time to dodge the methadone withdrawals? How much time is enough?
Any feedback would be great!!!


Thanx, -Joe

[1badrabbit]

Well you would have to be in withdrawals from the methadone before you start on the Sub. But really I have heard people taper off in 7-10 days without much in the way of withdrawals if done right. My DR. seems to think that long term maintenance is the best way to go as far as staying clean from opiates altogether. However you won't have to be on bupe very long to stear clear of the methadone withdrawals.

[rebecca]

Hi guys!STARTED THE SUB TODAY...WOW,AMAZING STUFF!yOU WERE RTIGHT bI11I,NOTHING to get so stressed out about!Got pretty drowsy in the afternoon (that could have been the Lorazepam he ghave me,which helped SO much w/ the anxiety i had!Called my sitter down because i thought I was going to fall over I was so tired!Took the best nap ever,woke up feeling great!I only took 6 mgs. vs. the 16 he told me to take cuz I was a little nervoius about it.Still worked!took 4 more this afternoon after my nap (is that okay to do,spread it out like that?The only thing I did wrong was had a partial beer tonite wish i hadn't!I guess I got a liyttle cocky.It kind of made me shaky and sweaty,don't think i'll do that again.Was it going to give me w/d,s if i had the whole thing?Npo thanks :rolleyes: ....Is was go nice not worring about my stupid pills today and to see everything so clearly!I looked at my little boys and just thought to myself,you are getting your fun beautiful mommy back,no more tired looking spaced out dumbass!I so suggest this to anybody considering it...I don't know that there could possibly be a better way!does anybody know,when you go to get off of this do you have w/ds from it?I am on it only a week.thanks so much all of you who have responded to me and suoored me w/ this. You guys are frickin awesome:D I can't wait to wake up to my new life tomorrw :p !!!!thank you thank you (especially you,Bi11i :o ) all off you who responded to my posts.

[bi11i]

that's great - glad you were able to get on it so quick. i would think that after a week of taking the dose you're on, you would be able to almost painlessly stop.

good luck, let us know how it goes...

[rebecca]

i HOPE THAT IS THE CASE,bI11I :o).i COULDN'T HAVE DONE IT W/OUT YOUR ENCOURAGEMNET!!!yHANKS AGAIN SO MUCH.i DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A COMPUTER FOR 2 DAYS,SO WILL POST AGAIN THEN!!! :O)

[bi11i]

hey now, no need to yell;)

best of luck.

[rebecca]

Ha ha!!!Geez,I do look a little spazzy in my posts,don't I ?I have to type so freaking fast because I get no time to myself on the computer (usually some little person is trying to push the buttons ;o)!Plus-I am a sucky typer.....I will try to Sim-ma down now :)...Anyhow,still doing great,got a little sick tonite (haven't been taking the full dose)..took a little more and was fine. I have some more ?'s that I wouls like to ask yoy tomorrow,ifr that's okay...too tired tonite,but curious about a few things.HAve a good night :o)

[rebecca]

Ok if i took my last sub (6 mg) today at noon,do you think I woiuld be able to have a couple of glasses of wine later tonite?Goin out of town w/ hubby....would that be too soon?thanks :o)...Also-am I going to have w/drawls from sub (been taking 6-8mg a day inst4eade vof the suggested 16) Aafter taking it for only 6 days?thanks in advance :)

[superbeast]

If it is literally a couple of glasses you should be fine. Drink too much and you might have an interaction and possible respitory problems. I would try drink a glass of water
between drinks also. JMO. SB>

[bi11i]

Ok if i took my last sub (6 mg) today at noon,do you think I woiuld be able to have a couple of glasses of wine later tonite?Goin out of town w/ hubby....would that be too soon?thanks :o)...
i personally wouldn't. my experience with alcohol and sub is that it never helps. in fact, i'm always left with this feeling like i should take more sub after a couple of drinks. it almost feels like it's being pushed out of my system by the booze....?

with it being your last dose - i'd either leave it alone or make it one glass of wine.....?

Also-am I going to have w/drawls from sub (been taking 6-8mg a day inst4eade vof the suggested 16) Aafter taking it for only 6 days?thanks in advance :)
this is a tough one - your dose of bup isn't all that important here. 6 days is an iffy ride. i'm willing to bet that you could very possibly walk away from this with maybe (at most) the loss of a little sleep tomorrow night or the next. i've had completely painless results on your regiment of bup.

it's 'the fear' you need to be mindful of. don't let it get to you. it's sometimes tough to let go of the feeling that always tells you it's time to pop a pill or two. trust the bup - see where it takes you. i'm willing to bet the worst is nothing to be concerned with... get some more of that ativan from your doc, if you can. that will help with any anxiety.

hey, be sure to report back.... good luck.

[rebecca]

Thanks for the advice,Bi11i :D YAh,I just had a glass and I was fine...I decided to finish out my 2 more days on the meds since I have it left.Kinda felt like I could've done w/out it today,but it can't hurt to go with the plan.Thanks so much for your help once again :p Rebecca