generics Burn like HELL!

[Controlled Depression]

I have about 30 20mg Endo brand Oxy's and I crushed and snorted. It was the worst brunning sensation I have ever experienced. It totally took away any pleasure to be had. I have zero doubt that there is something added to these pills in order to curb the abuse. I love to snort my oxy's for it's quick on set of that beautiful warm wave. that is totally gone with these. I found that breathing thru my nose with a ice cold wash cloth over my face lessens the burn. But still the pain it causes my throat and nose is not worth it. What a waste.:mad:

What has your experiences been. Any advice?

[Mark]

You sure those are Endos? The Endos I got look and feel like OCs in every way except for the markings. No major burning or anything out of the ordinary, excellent high.

[Controlled Depression]

You sure those are Endos? The Endos I got look and feel like OCs in every way except for the markings. No major burning or anything out of the ordinary, excellent high.


Pink with E703 on one side and 20 on the other. Loks just like the pill off the Endo website and got these straight from the pharmacy. They are horribly painful, but strong.

[gnat]

Those are endos but they are much much larger than real oc's. I had endo 40's my last script and this time I filled with brand name 40's. They are no more than half the size of the endos. It's amazing really. There is way too much crap in the endos. It works ok but way too much of nothing.

As for the burn... if it's the worst you've experienced then I dare say you probably haven't tooted much. I've had what felt like a nose full of death on many occassions in my past. Like someone stabbed a red hot railroad nail in my face. The endo's barely burn when compared to the likes of meth or crank like substances. NO tears, no hitting yourself in the face.. only a slight burn.

The brand name oc's are much smoother, I'll agree... but the endo's aren't bad at all in the grand scheme of things.

[exitwound]

I have found that Endo appears to have worked up fairly effective anti-snorting formulation which creates a time-release gel that doesn't absorb well into the nasal or oral mucosa (I figure the anal mucosa would only be marginally better due to the longer exposure time) and is best swallowed.

By crushing, you do accelerate the time release, but with Endo's generic "Contin" formulations for Oxy and Morphine you can't really defeat it.

[sage99]

I have read that Endo is made specifically so you cannot abuse them....I know its really lame!!! Next time be sure to ask for the brand name and just pony up the extra money.

[gnat]

I just finished off a bottle of 90 endo's on tuesday... Every once in a while I'd test their controlled release system with zero goop, gel, or problem.

[exitwound]

I just finished off a bottle of 90 endo's on tuesday... Every once in a while I'd test their controlled release system with zero goop, gel, or problem.

That's odd -- according to Endo Pharm's web site, they only make 15, 30, 60, 100 and 200mg formulations.

[gnat]

That's odd -- according to Endo Pharm's web site, they only make 15, 30, 60, 100 and 200mg formulations.

sry I'm talking about oxy, and 90 is the amount of 40mg oxy's I had. I mentioned the 40's earlier in the thread. ;)

[exitwound]

sry I'm talking about oxy, and 90 is the amount of 40mg oxy's I had. I mentioned the 40's earlier in the thread. ;)

My bad.... :cool:

[paperrabbit]

"i crush + parachute to try and break down that time release, it works a little, but not as muc as i'd like it to"

(my friend told me to post this)

[duke_nemmerle]

Word up, I snorted a generic 40 and it bout killed me

[antigonemuse]

generics are burning a whole threw my nose................. going on my fifth day with sinus infection.... not worth snorting... ask for name brands <a wee bit of heaven on earth>

only advantage to generic... I can not go threw them as quick :D

[exitwound]

For my own purposes, I really don't much care how a particular pill formulation works snorted, banged etc....all I really care about is normal oral, crushed oral, sublingual/oral combined, or plugging....I have no problem per se with snorting or banging but neither is really of all that much use to a chronic pain sufferer; I'd rather have a relatively smooth, efficient but only slightly buzzed experience rather than a few minutes of raging high and then hours or days of agony =/

So, in conclusion, if anyone is frustrated with their generic time-released pills, I run a convenient disposal service "For The Love of God Make It Stop, Inc." -- once asborbed into my gastrointestinal tract, those damned generics will never burn your poor noses again! ;-)

^--- Now there's something you don't see on a junkie site every day....somebody begging to be sent free drugs! LMAO :rolleyes: :cool: :D

[antigonemuse]

A reply worth replying to!!
I have to disagree with one comment. I always found the high from snorting to last a couple of hours. Just sets in quick. Check out heroinhelper.com for some useful info in regards to absorbtion

[exitwound]

A reply worth replying to!!
I have to disagree with one comment. I always found the high from snorting to last a couple of hours. Just sets in quick. Check out heroinhelper.com for some useful info in regards to absorbtion

Yeah, very true. I don't know if and when I might get my hands on some genuine "street H" since I've never had the chance to taste it -- one of the very few opiates (or "drugs" generally) that I haven't at least tried -- and it's not exactly the optimum choice for someone who's on long-term pain management and is trying to be at least somewhat responsible about it...but that said, I need anything I can get at this point because my condition has become so incredibly severe....and from what a fellow sufferer of the same condition tells me, H does work quite well for the pain as long as you don't get too recreational with it and build up too much of a tolerance....

So yes, I should have phrased what I said better. I didn't mean to suggest all snorted opiates last a matter of minutes....although generally, it's usually a shorter duration than oral administration of course....

[antigonemuse]

i wish i the constrant you do. I started on OC's for pain, and oddly enough, with the veiled suggestion from my doctor began snorting them five months into the therapy. Two years later, I can't say I have too many regrets. it is the only drug that has controlled my pain.... However, my weak consitution has lead me into a life of pie eyed chemical enduced contentment.

as for heroinhelper.com - it is a wonderful site dealing with much more them H, and created by a PhD. and author in this field. It has many wonder links, articles, and facts I have been very grateful for.

Peace

[shaunclo]

ExitWound, if you are truly a legitimate sufferer of chronic pain, than I would strongly suggest AGAINST using H as a pain reliever. And this is the reason why, you will become dependent sooner or later, and every dope fiend, no matter how good a connect you think you have, will have to go through what are called "dry spells." Now w/d'ing off of dope without already being a sufferer of chronic painis a living nightmare. But if you also suffer from chronic pain, AND have to go through dope w/d's, well then I really couldnt even imagine how bad that would be. It would probably be almost intolerable.

What I would suggest is to go to a pain management clinic and get on some long acting meds that can really help you out in the long run, where you can always get your script filled every month. Instead of just praying and hoping that your dealer doesnt get popped, the the little piggies. Fuckin donut eating, ticket writing, little bitches. Ohhhh look at me, I have a gun and hand-cuffs, so you have to be scared of me. GODDAMN PIGS!!! I HATE YOU ALL, YOU WILL ALL DIE AND EAT SHIT, THEN DIE AGAIN.

[exitwound]

In my case, while I completely understand what you're saying, I am not worried about getting distracted by the recreational/psychologhical addiction that comes with H. I've tested myself enough, and in so many different ways, that I feel that I can be trusted to at least *try* small amounts of H as part of my pain management toolchest.

I'm already working with a great doc and am on time-release meds, but my breakthrough medication is far too weak and I've only been seeing this doc for a short time after a LONG time unmedicated (except what I could provide for myself) so we're playing catch-up. While I refuse to get caught up in the black market bullshit, I also don't think I should deny myself possibly useful tools unless I have tried them and rejected them as problematic.

We'll see soon enough....:cool:

[Dee]

I have about 30 20mg Endo brand Oxy's and I crushed and snorted. It was the worst brunning sensation I have ever experienced. It totally took away any pleasure to be had. I have zero doubt that there is something added to these pills in order to curb the abuse. I love to snort my oxy's for it's quick on set of that beautiful warm wave. that is totally gone with these. I found that breathing thru my nose with a ice cold wash cloth over my face lessens the burn. But still the pain it causes my throat and nose is not worth it. What a waste.:mad:

What has your experiences been. Any advice?

[Dee]

Yup, the Endos are a complete waste of time & money. Pay the $3-4 "hunge" and get the name brand or you may as well use aspirin or ground black pepper.
When you open up a generic Endo the ingredient you refer to the same "buzz killer" they put in Methadon (which I believe is called Nuprone).
Thanks to all who educated me on IVing OC's. Indeed, it's a pain in the ass but I got off ok.
I'd describe it as about 5% better than snorting.
.*Q for anyone who knows: Is skin popping better than snorting? (It's not worth the tracks & pain for 5%). If so, inject into muscle?
OR (I've been IVing 40's quartered) will adding more help? Thanks

[Dee]

:cool: Yup, the Endos are a complete waste of time & money. Pay the $3-4 "hunge" and get the name brand or you may as well use aspirin or ground black pepper.
When you open up a generic Endo the ingredient you refer to the same "buzz killer" they put in Methadon (which I believe is called Nuprone).
Thanks to all who educated me on IVing OC's. Indeed, it's a pain in the ass but I got off ok.
I'd describe it as about 5% better than snorting.
.*Q for anyone who knows: Is skin popping better than snorting? (It's not worth the tracks & pain for 5%). If so, inject into muscle?
OR (I've been IVing 40's quartered) will adding more help? Thanks

[L0VE]

I have about 30 20mg Endo brand Oxy's and I crushed and snorted. It was the worst brunning sensation I have ever experienced. It totally took away any pleasure to be had. I have zero doubt that there is something added to these pills in order to curb the abuse. I love to snort my oxy's for it's quick on set of that beautiful warm wave. that is totally gone with these. I found that breathing thru my nose with a ice cold wash cloth over my face lessens the burn. But still the pain it causes my throat and nose is not worth it. What a waste.:mad:

What has your experiences been. Any advice?

YES, they're generic endo pharma oxycontim (look on website).

AND yes, they burn like a mf. I had a 40. I remember my nose started gushing blood down my face, and this was right before school. It was awful. Then my dealer was laughing at me because I thought it blew a whole in my brain too. He was like, "yeah by the way, you can't snort endos!" And that, was the only and last time I seen one of those. He got rid of them and got back to the green. (oc)

[Frontier Psychiatrist]

A Simple generics chart

- endo=suckass
- watson=fucking a

[Opiyum]

To anyone who thinks endo's burn worse than anything they have tried in the past I recommend you never blow shitty crystal meth. It normally takes about five minutes to recover from the pain completely.

[L0VE]

To anyone who thinks endo's burn worse than anything they have tried in the past I recommend you never blow shitty crystal meth. It normally takes about five minutes to recover from the pain completely.

It's not just that they burn, it's that they can blow a hole through your nose. My nose was bleading (well, gushing blood) for hours.

[chemboy7]

Nosebleeds are quite common for people who snort shit... I am sure there is more than a few people here that have woke up in the morning with a pounding headache and congealed blood in their nostrils.