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zorbinski
11-17-2007, 08:01 PM
Well, first off, this is my first post. Nice to meet ya! So, I have a very high tolerance to pain meds now. Mostly, I eat hydrocodone, but once a month I get a 10 pack of 75mcg patches. Was getting the sandoz gels, but this last script was Mylan non-gel. Either way, I eat it. So, in the past, I have tried eating the fent in the morning, and at some point late afternoon, eating a few hydros. But I don't really get the rush from the hydros as I would get if they were alone. I assume this has to do with the brain chemicals already being manipulated for the day. I guess my questions are "Does anyone know more about this situation?" or "What are your experiences in this?" Is there a way to get off on the hydros just like I would if I had eaten them without the fent? And also, I am gonna post this next question in the appropriate forum, but I will throw it out here too. Does anyone know any methods of getting the high off hydros later in the day if they have already been eaten that morning? If swim eats 4 hydros at 11:00 am, when can he eat more that day to feel the rush? Is there a method to daily tolerances?? Sorry for all the rambling questions, starting to peak.

irish
11-17-2007, 08:12 PM
You get a rush from eating them? That's odd. If you are taking fentanyl your tolerance is going to go through the roof. It may be that you just can't get high on hydro anymore. I would be extremely careful with the fent, it can kill you easily and the dose that gets you high is close to the dose that kills you. Also eating the gel can cause serious liver problems, and so can the apap in the hydros. Do a cwe for the hydros and be super careful with the fent.

WarmCyanide
11-17-2007, 08:43 PM
welcome to opiophile! search the forums for anything zorb! all of your questions about opiates are welcome here no need to apologize for anything. read the rules of this site. this is not a hookup site. and also use the search function.
i thought i was the only Ween fan here. use the search function and type in "fentanyl" or "patches". then come back here if you dont get answers

WC

p.s introduce yourself on the ibenewhere forum if ya like

robotears
11-17-2007, 09:47 PM
I've never had the honor of getting fent before, but from what you described, I'd have to guess that Yes, your tolerance is too high for vic's anymore. However... i'm sure if you ate 5-15 vics, you'd probebly feel something. I'm not sure if taking them together is dangerous but eating a shitload of vics is. Yes do the "cold water extraction" with the hydros and eat somewhere between 5-15 and you should get really fucked up. You said you only eat 4 at a time to feel a "rush" so your tolerance probebly isn't bad. The fent probebly raised you tolerance bigtime. Be careful... pace yourself. I doubt your tolerence shot up that quick so you should still be able to get high of hydro's is you take enuff. But definitly do the cwe. Alot of people who take 10-20 vics a day without cwe, fuck the livers up permamently. I'd say stick with the vic's for now. Enjoy your tolerence while it is low bc one day you'll wish you could still get fucked up on "only":rolleyes: 10-20 vic's.

SpadedJaded&Faded
11-22-2007, 07:35 AM
What's up everyone...I'm new here as well, nice to finally be able to post. But anyway, I can relate to this subject. I'd have to say that about a year ago, before I'd ever tried Fent, I could feel 20mg's of hydro, but to really get to where I wanted to be I'd have to take at least 60mg. Now, a year and about 30 100mcg patches later I can't even get off on 180mg's of hydro. (I can sometimes get the 15/80 hydro's, and now even 12 of them at once does almost nothing in terms of getting where I want to be).

Not to mention the countless OC's I've done though too...

reddragon3668
11-22-2007, 08:05 AM
Welcome to the board! You may want to do an intro in the "I be new here" forum, if you haven't already.

I am assuming that you are being scripted the fent patches? If so, I am sort of wondering how you got that big of a leap, from Hydro to Fent? I am on the fent patches too... I get 15 100mcg patches a month... but I haven't been able to feel anything at all off of Hydro in so many years; I can't even remember the last time I felt Hydrocodone. I would die from the APAP long before I copped a buzz.

Be safe and have a great day!


What's up everyone...I'm new here as well, nice to finally be able to post. But anyway, I can relate to this subject. I'd have to say that about a year ago, before I'd ever tried Fent, I could feel 20mg's of hydro, but to really get to where I wanted to be I'd have to take at least 60mg. Now, a year and about 30 100mcg patches later I can't even get off on 180mg's of hydro. (I can sometimes get the 15/80 hydro's, and now even 12 of them at once does almost nothing in terms of getting where I want to be).

Not to mention the countless OC's I've done though too...

SpadedJaded&Faded
11-23-2007, 03:13 AM
Unfortunately, no, I'm not scripted the Fent..but the guy I get them from RARELY uses any of them, so I can get his whole script every month if I want. (I'm not a CP patient, just recreational use). As far as my tolerance skyrocketing, really doesn't suprise me, because like I said, aside from all the patches I've done, I've also done countless OC's (Purdue 80's), countless bags of VERY decent powder, quite a few Dillies (M4's, which to me kinda suck (I don't IV), and so on and so on.

zorbinski
11-23-2007, 04:51 PM
Yeah, I know fent is dangerous. It is taken with precaution. Well, the "4 hydro's" was just a reference. 4 was a LONG time ago. I didn't think about the fent boosting my tolerance. I figured since they were two different chemicals they would act differently. I guess my main question is concerning a 24 hour tolerance. Or twelve hour tolerance. Again, hypothetically speaking here, does anyone know of an amount of time that is relevant to getting a rush again? I know this is kind of a strange question, and it's mostly just curiosity. Let me put more of a scenario to it. Swim eats some fent. Feels good through the day. 6 hours after eating the fent, it starts to subside. So, swim eats a normal dosage of hydros, but doesn't feel them. Now, if swim had waited for 10 hours, he would feel them. This may sound crazy talk, but I'm just wondering if there is some clue as to why this happens. Is it just personal chemical makeup, time release of the medicines, etc.? If I'm just being too analytical, just say so. =)

SpadedJaded&Faded
11-23-2007, 11:11 PM
Personally, I think that you're simply dancing along that borderline of tolerance. Keep doing the Fent, and soon you'll have to wait 12 hours to feel anything off the Hydro, then 16, 24, and eventually Hydro will do nothing for you.