probation drug testing.

[TokinDerrick]

alright, so I'm on probation for driving under the influence of methadone and xanax (90mg of methadone 6mg of alprazolam) and possession of 24 xanax bars. the DUI got dropped but I'm on 2 years probation for the felony possession. I haven't been tested yet, but I'm expecting to hear something about my TASC (drug program, I think its called drug court in other places) any time this month. I've done some dope here and there and some oxy here and there, and I'm not really worried about that. well, lemme get to what I've done and you guys could help me out to let me know if I'll pass soon.

I was an everyday all day smoker until I got arrested on August 26th. during my 29 days in county I smoked 3 joints (jail joints, so tiny), I was released on September 24th or 25th, don't exactly remember. on the 8th of October I smoked a joint and a bong load with some friends, then on the 9th and 10th, once a day I smoked a bowl of resin. I didn't do anything again until the 25th of October I took 2.5mg of xanax on the 27th, I took 1mg of xanax with 2 pinch hits of hydro, and then on the 29th I had two shots of VERY good heroin (lets just say from a foreign country thats known for their heroin) and smoked one pinch hit of hydro. on the 30th I took one shot of heroin. then I didn't do anything again until the 6th, I smoked maybe 5 or 6 pinch hits of hydro and snorted 20mg of oxy (normally I'd do more, but it was free for giving a friend a ride). and then this last saturday I ate .5mg of xanax and drank some screw drivers.

when do you guys think I'll pass a drug test. please keep in mind the dates of all of that. really I'm just worried about the weed, and maybe the xanax because I know those are the two things that like to hang around the longest in my system.

[upstate_007]

In my opinion, you got a few weeks until you would be able to test clean without any cleansing or cheats of any kind. Not meaning to sound mean or rude, but at the rate you are going a violation is not too far off. What if they call you in for a random screening? What if you caught another DUI while on probation?

Like I said, I am not coming down on you here, just looking out and trying to help. Fucking around while on probation without any kind of plan for how to counteract testing and such is a recipe for landing in the county on a violation. Stay safe and out of trouble man.

[TokinDerrick]

so smoking that amount of weed is going to take a couple of weeks?

I'm thinking it at the most would have to take about 2 weeks.

I'm done with the weed, I think its retarded that I even smoked it. the oxy is hard to pass up, and I only did the dope because it was free (and DAMN good), so I don't see anymore dope in my near future. but oxy I can see maybe popping up here and there as I get some for free for giving a friend a ride to pick up. but I'm thinking now that I might just take what he gives me and save it until like RIGHT after a urine drop.

btw, what kind of tests does probation give? 5, 6, 9?

[kil092286]

so smoking that amount of weed is going to take a couple of weeks?

I'm thinking it at the most would have to take about 2 weeks.

I'm done with the weed, I think its retarded that I even smoked it. the oxy is hard to pass up, and I only did the dope because it was free (and DAMN good), so I don't see anymore dope in my near future. but oxy I can see maybe popping up here and there as I get some for free for giving a friend a ride to pick up. but I'm thinking now that I might just take what he gives me and save it until like RIGHT after a urine drop.

btw, what kind of tests does probation give? 5, 6, 9?

My probation gives 2 panels and 5 panels.

[Black_Pony]

I would say 3 weeks for the benzos and by then the weed should be out of your system as well. Those benzos linger (so does the weed but it sounds like you've been smoking relatively infrequently).

[jab]

I have to agree with Upstate and Black Pony.. You got some time.

Either take a clean sample or pray like you've never prayed before!

Good luck!! I hope it all works out for you.

[TokinDerrick]

how is so little amount of xanax gonna hang around so long?

not to mention, all the weed I said probably equaled out to be about 2 joints total.

[nick]

how is so little amount of xanax gonna hang around so long?

not to mention, all the weed I said probably equaled out to be about 2 joints total.

Different drugs hang around in your system for different lengths of time.The physical amount of drug you take isn't all that matters.

Hell,with your attitude man.............say hi to Bubba when you see him.

[TokinDerrick]

I'm not trying to have an attitude. I'm just freaking out. I have a problem, and the PO isn't gonna care. I just hope they don't test me anytime soon, its been 8 days without weed, and 4 days without xanax. and I don't have a job, almost got hired at Home Depot but they didn't like the fact that I have a felony record. but I don't have a job so I don't have money to buy the drinks or anything to give me a negative drug test.

btw, do those work with just weed, or all drugs?

[nick]

I'm not trying to have an attitude. I'm just freaking out. I have a problem, and the PO isn't gonna care. I just hope they don't test me anytime soon, its been 8 days without weed, and 4 days without xanax. and I don't have a job, almost got hired at Home Depot but they didn't like the fact that I have a felony record. but I don't have a job so I don't have money to buy the drinks or anything to give me a negative drug test.

btw, do those work with just weed, or all drugs?

If you're broke(and you're not alone there) do you have a clean male friend? If so ask him for some urine.



Make sure you keep it strapped to your body for a few hours before the test,so the temp is ok.

Much luck.

[TokinDerrick]

I wish I would've done that for the home depot drug test. they just sent me in a room and didn't make me clean out my pockets or anything (and it was a drug testing facility).

but I'm afraid for probation they're going to watch, I mean there are mirrors above the toilet so they can see whats going on.

but do you really think the benzo's will stay in my system for 3 weeks?

heres a breakdown of the events.

October 6th- one joint, one (maybe two) bong hits
October 7th- couple resin hits
October 8th- couple resin hits
October 25th- 2.5mg of xanax
October 27th-2 pinch hits
October 29th-3 shots of heroin 1 pinch hit
October 30th-1 shot of heroin
November 6th- 5 pinch hits
November 10?- .5mg of xanax

[irish]

Ooops... looks like you're screwed. Get in a program before you get violated.

[TokinDerrick]

which part of that makes me screwed? I'd like to know.

[TokinDerrick]

btw, I've been court ordered to go to TASC, I'm waiting for that now. and I think I was told they drug test. is it a violation if you fail those tests, or just the PO tests?

[TokinDerrick]

oh, and going by those dates that I posted. could everyone post a date that they think I'd pass.

I'm 5'9" about 150 pounds if that helps.

oh, and this is looking promising...
http://erowid.org/psychoactives/testing/testing_info6.shtml

[jab]

By your dates above I would say that you should be OK on Dec. 1.

As for products that help pass a drug test.. THEY ALL FAIL. I've tried all the diff methods and none worked.. sep brining clean pee w/ me.

Yes, they will watch you, unlike a job test. Yes, you can still get it by if you try hard enough. No, it won't be easy.

I know you looked at the calculator on Erowid, and you've been searching online, but this is your freedom we are talking about!! Do not trust some web site. Hell, don't turst me or anyone else. But we've been there, done that, got the t-shirt, and we're trying to help you.

One a good note.. If you fail the first test, you can usually tell them it's residual since you USED to do so much, and they'll let you take once a week till you pass. But.. You CAN NOT fail after that, or you're toast.

Good luck man!! Play it cool and don't go in there sweating and nervous.

oh, and going by those dates that I posted. could everyone post a date that they think I'd pass.

I'm 5'9" about 150 pounds if that helps.

oh, and this is looking promising...
http://erowid.org/psychoactives/testing/testing_info6.shtml

[jab]

As a side note.. My first probation drop was a failure.. and I had been clean for just over 30 days.

The shit stays with you.

[phaedros]

Niacin(sp?) definetly works for the weed.It can be bought at GNC.But it will burn for awhile after you take it.Will also make you itch and turn red.Works well for weed though.As far as I am concerned its the only drug i would use if I was dirty with weed.It only works for weed though.I have used it myself MANY times with good affects every time.So have friends and family members.

As far as the opiats go...I give them 5 days.And if you have to, go to the E.R. and try to cop a script of vices for pain.As long as they say take as needed on the lable you are golden as long as you keep that bottle.

If wherever your at isnt up on the water trick here it is...if you fill up on water and piss clear there isnt shit in it.It is basically just water.It saved me a whole lot of times in prison.But alot of places are up on it now and will say that you have a unusual water content.If they come to that conclusion they will make you take it again right then in front of them and you will be screwed.

If you test positive for the weed and try to say it is residual (from months before) there is a test they can do where they can pin down the last time you used.So be careful doing that.It does work sometimes..but sometimes it dont.

I read all the posts in this thread and I know where your coming from.Sometimes at certain points in a persons life "stopping" isnt a option.Thats why we are affectionetly referred to as "Dope Feinds"..lols.

And just my opinion on something I read.It has nothing to do with the original writer.But if you do have to go see "Bubba",Punch him in the fucking mouth and take his lunch.

Take Care

[TokinDerrick]

Niacin does not work. I've failed job drug tests many of times with that bullshit.

the drinks should work, they have unusual amounts of vitamins and the stuff they test for in them, and then you drink some water with it to dilute the urine. I'd buy some if I had $30-40.

I've just been doing sit-ups, push ups, and walking to a few places that are somewhat close by instead of driving there. I feel like a loser walking places, but hey, I'm trying not to get my ass caught up again. I've been guessing December 1st, I'll definetly be clean. I'm just hoping I don't get a phone call, or a piece of mail soon about it.

oh, I"m also taking weight loss medicine, try to get my metabolism up.

but I'll be stoping that as soon as I get word on a test to try to slow my metabolism back down. I heard doing nothign for like 2 days and eating a shit-ton does this. I've also got some aspirin to take before the test (this definetly does screw with drug tests for marijuana) and vitamins to take when I drink the water.

[Ludakris]

keep in mind for probation, they generally test for masking agents, dilution, deliberate PH tampering. Just about anything you can do to throw off the test...they can test for. And yes, niacin is nothing more than a B-vitamin, it might help flush blood/skin but not urine. As far as your metabolism goes, do your best to be physically active. Run, jog, walk, lift weights, whatever. If you run on a treadmill or something keep track of calories burned and remember that once you raise your metabolism by working out, it keeps your metabolism up for quite a few hours afterwards. Lots of fluids and exercise, and then about a week before the test, stop exercising, just be lazy.

THC resides in fat cells, and shows up residually when you burn fat and it's re-released into your system. So the more fat you burn the better, and then getting "lazy" before the test helps retain the fat cells keeping them from re-releasing...IME this is the best approach, especially if you are told what date you're getting tested and you have a decent time frame to work with.

Best of luck to you dude, I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.

[TokinDerrick]

to be honest, with the amount of time between every puff of weed I've had since I've been released. I think I have nothing to worry about. but that doesn't mean its gonna stop me from taking the aspirin and vitamins with water before the test. heh.

btw, does anyone know if the probation drug tests are tests where you get the answer right there, or the kind they send off for?

[IceCold]

First of all, where is your probation at? Missouri or Illinois? In missouri if you are honest with your po and you have a drug problem and tell them and give it an honest shot at quitting you will be okand won't go to jail. If that is what you want to do. Also, the whizzinator has been known to work well in situations like yours. Also two years I probation ain't shit. If you are good you can probably get it knocked down to papers after a year and over with completely in 18 months.

[TokinDerrick]

its in Illinois. my original case was in St. Clair County, but since I live in Madison its moved to here.

and I do have a drug problem, if I had a job right now, I'd be gettin' oxy's left and right. the only way I've done the drugs I've done so far while being on probation is for giving rides for other people.

also, this is first time probation, so if I complete it with no problems, the felony is dropped off my record, so thats what I'm going for. I almost got a job at Home Depot but they didn't like the fact I have a felony and I never got a call back, just a letter from them with my felony information and then declining my application after I went in for an interview.

[SomniGod]

check your erowid link bro...it was from 1994!!! tests are MUCH more stingent now...

btw, I have a probation appt on Monday....they told me that they are testing for alcohol....will a couple roxi 30's today(friday) completely fuck me?

~S~

[TokinDerrick]

you're about at the cutoff date for oxycodone to show up.

I'd give it 3-5 days for almost any opiate.

yeah, I smoked probably 4 pinch hits on friday, and took 1mg of xanax on saturday. I can't seem to stay away from at least one drug for 2-3 weeks.

are you of age for alcohol? if so, I don't see why they'd search for it, unless you had an alcohol related offense. btw, I'm drunk right now, and I"m at the fuckin' library, talk about lame.

[lister40]

I failed 8 drug tests on probation. They didn't put me in until my 6th & 8th one. 6th one I was in for 5 days. 8th one I went away for 50 days and then put into a rehab for 21 days (thank god for lawyers.).
It will probably be way different. I live in Texas.

Drink like.. almost a gallon of water before you take the test. A "diluted" drug test is better than a failed one. You can say that you just got done working out and drank a lot of water during the work out.

[TokinDerrick]

eh, I would've been clean for this one. but I've been drinking beer everyday for a while and I got pretty drunk a few days in a row, I'd say 3-4 days and I smoked either a roach with 2 other people or two pinch hits. and then I got a letter in the mail saying I've got an intake interview with my new PO on the 13th. luckily I got a job and that gave me a week to clean out and I'm gonna go buy one of those drink things. I also took 1mg of xanax about 2 1/2 weeks before the 13th.

[drugsaregood]

Man. My method is this (I'm on paper too):

I = SWIM.
Stop using as soon as possible when I know I have to go in.
Drink as much liquids as I can hours before the test. (No lab tests! WOOT! However, even if they send your shit to a lab, a dillute is much better than a positive!)
B-Vitamins (Forget which one exactly) can colour your pee nicely.
Work out as much as possible. Treadmill for hours. Sweat the toxins out.
Stay away from shit that lingers for long durations. It's generally not worth it. (Weed, Benzos..)
Wait as long as possible before going in...

Generally if you've just been put on probation and it's your first test, I'd think they'd give you time to clear everything out, so you don't get a positive for drugs you've done while not on probation...

Watch your ass bro, remember NOTHING is worth violating. I've been on paper for over a year, had some close calls but I keep my shit tight as possible.

Leave nothing around your house or car either man.

Live like everyday your going to get raided and shit. That kind of fear is healthy IMHO.

Best of luck..

[TokinDerrick]

yeah, I'm done with the weed and benzo's. I might smoke one pinch hit a week or something like that once I get into the motions of whats going on here.

and I've been on probation for like 2 months now, they've just finally got it to where I have a PO so pretty soon I'll be going to TASC and hearing from this lady.

but for this test, if there is one, I went and bought some drink called "strip" its made by covert labs, fucking costed me $50 but its better than going to jail, I don't want any blemishes on this because I got first timers probation and if I complete all 2 years without incident they remove the felony from my record, and thats a good thing because nobody is willing to hire a felon, I almost got a job at home depot until they did a background check. :(

[tyrant]

alright, so I'm on probation for driving under the influence of methadone and xanax (90mg of methadone 6mg of alprazolam) and possession of 24 xanax bars.


i know this is a pretty non-judgemental community here...but FUCK you, dude. 90mg of 'done AND 6mg of xanax??!?! and you got behind the wheel of an automobile? that is some of the most irresponsible shit i have ever heard. Why not do it blindfolded with no hands next time for yer next astounding feat?

[oldscratch]

I'll try to help you on with a date.... but overall i think your screwed ....if they test you within a 3 week time period...there is no way of passing the drug even with assistance...( doping)....in regards to priorities....the xanax is your key problem....even though you've taken a relatively low dose....xanax has to break down into at least 5-7 other benzos all with different half-lives...takes a long fuckin time...once i took 10mg's and tests still registered after 4 wks....not a good selection if one's on paper...weed.....varies...extreemly...THC percentage..amount absorbed....if weed was pinch'es of leaf or bullshit schwaag you might be o.k. 10 days after last use....if it is "bangin" shit ....forget it !!! 14-21 days at least judging by your cumilitive intake. NIDA cutoff levels on test are gauged to detect the smallest of use...MY ADVICE IS TO GET INTO TREATMENT...not from the standpoint of actually getting help...but more-so to get out of jail-time...P.O.'s are more apt to let a dirty-urine slide if you first admit use...and are getting "help"...look for a short-duration inpatient rehab or outpaient preferrably (and lord knows i fuckin hate rehabs) but when i was on heavy-duty paper and got caught up in the "mix".... "checking-in" and admitting i had a problem...and getting help... gave my lawyer proper ammunition to fight for more paper ( supervision ) instead of jail-time.... cause i was " doing something about "my drug problem"....granted... it was a tactic to not do time...and in my case....it worked several times...now hose-ing ( substitution )...like others advised does work in some cases...depends on who's supervising...and how close they scrutinize you in the process...and if its paper...they watch out for this method...i've known people whove done it and gotten away with it...but if your caught doing it ....your superfucked!!!...P.O.'s really hate fuckin schemers...they take it as a personal affront to their intelligence (or lack there-of ) and the hammer will come down hard !!! i'd advise the rehab thing!!!...had it work for me and have seen it work for others...better than doing time....and with everything you mentioned.... your lookin at time if you dont....you might be lookin at time either way but with treatment you stand a shot.. " oldscratch"

[TokinDerrick]

i know this is a pretty non-judgemental community here...but FUCK you, dude. 90mg of 'done AND 6mg of xanax??!?! and you got behind the wheel of an automobile? that is some of the most irresponsible shit i have ever heard. Why not do it blindfolded with no hands next time for yer next astounding feat?

I can't tell you why I did, because I don't have a clue. I didn't know what I was doing in the first place. but really, the "friends" I was with shouldn't have let me get into my car when they could see I coudln't keep up with walking with them at the zoo.

also, I went to the probation officer on the 13th or whatever date it was and she didn't test me. she gave me the exact date and time of my next visit and told me she'd test me then. which is January 17th, 11:30am so I'm all good. I did smoke 3 pinch hits of weed yesterday though, which will be my last until my next probation date and her to give me the next appointment time.