morphine SQ user

[alissanurse]

presently all i have are percs, i had access to percs, oyxs, dilaudids, morphine sq which i really enjoyed and now i dont, now im paying 5bucks a damn pill for percs and im pissed, i wish i had all the other drugs back, i wouldnt even have a clue where to get any of this, so i guess im stuck with damn percocets, better than nothing.....lol..........just venting,,,,thanks for listening:mad:

well since im running low of percs and cant no longer get access to my fav stuff i guess ill try to kick these habits again, what can i expect from going on the methodone, how should i feel, the last wk ive just been taking percs 6-10pills a day previous i take a mixture of 10-15 opiates a day( morphine sq, dilaudid 4mg, oxys 20-30mg, percs)

[irish]

$5 for a perc? that would be one ungodly expensive habit!

[robotears]

i take a mixture of 10-15 opiates a day( morphine sq, dilaudid 4mg, oxys 20-30mg, percs)[/quote]



10-15 opiates a day? I'm confused. How long have you been using. If your down to only 6 purcs a day, you may not even need methadone. You'd probebly be cool with a couple methadone just to get you through wd's. If you haven't been using that long or that much, you'll probebly just have to put up with a few days of feeling like shit, and then it'll be over. Methadone wd's can last week(s)! And I love the way it feels (like any other strong opiate). You may too, which is risky if you want to quit your habits. Are you asking what it would be like to go to a clinic regularly? I have never done that myself so I have no insight but I'd say if you really want to quit, try coldturky if you can. If your habit is not that serious, you'll have to deal with sickness for a few days, and then it'll be over. WRITE AND TELL A little more about your history of using. Like for how long and how much and I'm sure you'll get more responses from people here that are more experienced with "the Done" Good Luck. Ever consider Suboxone or Subutex?

[irish]

If you are down to that few percs then I would just kick that rather than go the methadone route. The withdrawal from methadone would be way worse and not worth the trouble in my opinion.

[robotears]

Enough Said:)If you are down to that few percs then I would just kick that rather than go the methadone route. The withdrawal from methadone would be way worse and not worth the trouble in my opinion.

I thought your tryin to quit, No? Mabe you can find someone locally to get suboxone or subutex. Network! Not here though... Locally:Dpresently all i have are percs, i had access to percs, oyxs, dilaudids, morphine sq which i really enjoyed and now i dont, now im paying 5bucks a damn pill for percs and im pissed, i wish i had all the other drugs back, i wouldnt even have a clue where to get any of this, so i guess im stuck with damn percocets, better than nothing.....lol..........just venting,,,,thanks for listening:mad:

[alissanurse]

hi there new here, nurse, 26 from canada
doc-percs. oyxs, morphine, dilaudid, booze
well ive been really missing my drug supply as its not in my reach so easily these days, i bought 30percs for 150 damn bucks where a wk ago i was getting them and other drugs for free
it really sucks to have to result to paying and i have no way to get the others, so i continue to pay or decide to quit, i went to detox already, but i really dont wanna quit, i like the eurphoria, and the carefree feeling i feel, and i know if i go off ill go looney my friend wants me to go to the methadone clinic, im undecided presently. If i buy another supply tommorrow my hubby may get pissed about the money ill be spending, i wish a 30tab supply would last, but when u pop atleast 6pills a day doesnt go to far, id take atleast 10-15 a day but i have to limit myself. I guess i shouldnt be a pill popper if i cant supply and find the drugs for my habit, lol and i dont smoke weed, coke is too expensive and booze isnt what i want,lol...guess im in a pickle:p

[GoddessofRATs]

Yea it sucks!!! This is why so many of us here on Opiophile have turned to pods. No buying of the streets, no waiting for refills or Pm appointments/Dr apts, and in most cases... no outrageous prices. But with pods, there are still the basic addict-downfalls, w/d, which i hear is extremely bad with pods, shipping issues- waiting and waiting for the package to be delivered. ROA issues, at least for me. My stomach can't really handle the pod-slush, it's hard to get down sometimes no matter what i mix it with or how i make it.

Anyway... blah blah. I hear ya Aliss!!! No matter which way ya go you eventually end up distraught and empty handed.

I don't do illegal street drugs and i don't have a problem with people who do, but no matter how long ya stare at a color it ain't gonna change, it's all the same thing!!!

Welcome to the forum!!

GOR

[Princess]

You maybe able to just quit it all and be okay....back in my days before I found a good prescribing doc... I had to go cold turkey a few times (no supply) and just got the shits for a few days.

Everyone's different tho, the only thing that's ever REALLY given me withdrawls is Fentanyl (Duragesic patches). I thought I was gonna die so I ended up in the ER and stayed for 2 DAYS.... that was only after using the patches for a week & a half!

No pills have ever given me 'real' withdrawls...just some fun times in the bathroom. Lol (I know, sounds lovely coming frim the PTO Mom...)

well since im running low of percs and cant no longer get access to my fav stuff i guess ill try to kick these habits again, what can i expect from going on the methodone, how should i feel, the last wk ive just been taking percs 6-10pills a day previous i take a mixture of 10-15 opiates a day( morphine sq, dilaudid 4mg, oxys 20-30mg, percs)

[Duckfeet]

Welcome, welcome, glad you're here...hope u enjoy the site...

[alissanurse]

ive went to detox before and the wd's are hard, i was told having all the other stuff in my system i should use the methadone is hard, and im only using the percs right now caus its all i have to get me through, tho im desperately craving all the other stuff, i dont wanna do it a lone, and i was told from the detox clinic i shouldnt kick cold turkey

also ive been using opiates everyday for a year

i live in windsor, ont irish

[tptptp]

Aloha, aloha

[jonny-5]

damn i would hope that those are perc 10s for 5 bux a pop. if i were you id be GREATFUL to have those, many peoples connects dry up and they have nothing.

[alissanurse]

I thought your tryin to quit, No? Mabe you can find someone locally to get suboxone or subutex. Network! Not here though... Locally:D



my city i believe doesnt use suboxone

maybe if i didnt do methadone i could use what detox gave me before
it was ibuphropen 600mg and clonipn or xanax i know the 3rd day is the hardest, the mental thoughts and the cravings i remember were intense, and im clinically depressed and a cutter so i had to be monitored i wouldnt do anything silly and the leg pains were bad so i took warm sitz baths, gravol for nausea and imodium for diarrhea,

[Princess]

If you don't believe you can do it by yourself, by all means get help with the process. I believe methadone is used for heroin withdrawl & chronic pain (which is why I took it). It is VERY dangerous though....
There are other ways to get off pills...Suboxone ( or even the blood pressure med, I think its Clonodine. (Not Klonopin)....Ask your doctor. Better yet, search "detox" on the search section of this site.

Best of luck..both of you!

[havok]

They don't have subutex/suboxone in canada where you live? I was wondering what the status of buprenorphone is in canada. I thought it was similar to the US in that doctors can prescribe it. Is it as readily available as it is in the states?

The best thing about suboxone is that you can get it directly from a pharmacy with a doctor's prescription.

None of that methadone clinic bullshit where they make you hop through 10 hoops, and then you have to go to the clinic EVERY day to get your dose. What a waste of time.

With subs, I get my monthly script with one refill, so I only have to go see the doctor every 2 months. I wish it was possible to get methadone like that. If anyone has a doctor who prescribes them methadone every month for maintence, they are extremely lucky.

[RxQueen]

hi there new here, nurse, 26 from canada
doc-percs. oyxs, morphine, dilaudid, booze
well ive been really missing my drug supply as its not in my reach so easily these days, i bought 30percs for 150 damn bucks where a wk ago i was getting them and other drugs for free
it really sucks to have to result to paying and i have no way to get the others, so i continue to pay or decide to quit, i went to detox already, but i really dont wanna quit, i like the eurphoria, and the carefree feeling i feel, and i know if i go off ill go looney my friend wants me to go to the methadone clinic, im undecided presently. If i buy another supply tommorrow my hubby may get pissed about the money ill be spending, i wish a 30tab supply would last, but when u pop atleast 6pills a day doesnt go to far, id take atleast 10-15 a day but i have to limit myself. I guess i shouldnt be a pill popper if i cant supply and find the drugs for my habit, lol and i dont smoke weed, coke is too expensive and booze isnt what i want,lol...guess im in a pickle:p

welcome to our world. drugs cost money, we all like the euphoria, and a lot of us never want to quit. and if you're only taking 6 pills a day, it would be foolish to saddle yourself with a methadone addiction. if you're not convinced that we're all saying that for a good reason, check out some threads in our methadone forum. i just read one (duckfeet's "couldn't continue drop, bumped back up") that you should read... there are plenty of people here that will tell you, from first-hand experience, that kicking an addiction to a handful of percs a day is MUCH simpler than trying to get off methadone once you're in a program.


ive went to detox before and the wd's are hard, i was told having all the other stuff in my system i should use the methadone is hard, and im only using the percs right now caus its all i have to get me through, tho im desperately craving all the other stuff, i dont wanna do it a lone, and i was told from the detox clinic i shouldnt kick cold turkey

also ive been using opiates everyday for a year

i live in windsor, ont irish

of course the clinics will all tell you that you shouldn't go cold turkey. they can't make any money that way. and a one year habit isn't all that long... at least not long enough to consider subjecting yourself to a long drawn-out battle with 'done.

WD is hard, no matter what. and the mental cravings might never end, even with 'done. i think that you'd be better off to get a bunch of Immodium (helps WD a bunch), a few benzos, and just go cold turkey. the physical part only lasts a few days at this stage... the depression and mental stuff, well maybe you should treat that as its own problem and not try to medicate it away w/ 'done. cuz in the end, done will only make you more depressed...

the choice is yours alone, but i just wanted to point out a few of the potential downfalls of getting on MMT this early in the game. if you want to quit, you still have the option now before you become a lifer in this game. if you're just looking to avoid getting sick till the next time you find a sweet hook-up, MMT is a bad choice, IMO. i hope this didn't sound too harsh... best of luck in whatever you decide to do!

[mkultra]

They don't have subutex/suboxone in canada where you live? I was wondering what the status of buprenorphone is in canada. I thought it was similar to the US in that doctors can prescribe it. Is it as readily available as it is in the states?

The best thing about suboxone is that you can get it directly from a pharmacy with a doctor's prescription.

None of that methadone clinic bullshit where they make you hop through 10 hoops, and then you have to go to the clinic EVERY day to get your dose. What a waste of time.

With subs, I get my monthly script with one refill, so I only have to go see the doctor every 2 months. I wish it was possible to get methadone like that. If anyone has a doctor who prescribes them methadone every month for maintence, they are extremely lucky.

i'm not aware of any subutex/suboxone in canada, i don't think its available here. I live in winnipeg, nobody here that i know knows what those drugs are, but everyones on methadone here, for pills , as there is hardly any h. .

[riotgrrrl]

I am on methadone now. For you to get on without trying other options would be a HORRIBLE choice. It is extremely hard to get off of. It will raise your tolerance above what it is now. I would imagine the starting dose of 30mgs would be too much for you, most of us go to 100mgs or more. There is also disadvantages like having to go to the clinic everyday so if you travel you have to consider that. If your a nurse, what if the wrong person saw you? My girlfriend is a RN and we went through that, not fun. Don't let your inner junky make a bad decision on this. Think it through and good luck.

[bronyraur]

Welcome to Opiophile, Alissa.

I wouldn't recommend using methadone to detox in your case. You'd end up with a bigger problem than you have now.

[Princess]

Welcome to Opiophile, Alissa.

I wouldn't recommend using methadone to detox in your case. You'd end up with a bigger problem than you have now.

I couldn't agree more. The amount of pills being taken in this case, sounds like there might be some shits involved in quitting, but maybe not too much more. That's just my opinion.

[alissanurse]

i dont just use percs tho, i mean i understand im not as heavy as some others caus its only been a year but the longer u take the higher ur drug tolerance is, up until last wednesday i was taking dilaudids, oxys and using morphine sq as well as the percs every day, i guess its caus my close friend is on methadone shes so gun ho about it,but i bet if they piss tested me tomorrow they wont see enough narcs in my system right now anyway. ive had to result to dealing with the percs caus i had nothiung else and i ran outta the percs today and had nothing all day and wanted to kill myself and i was balling my eyes out. and my husband went out and found me some tyl 3 and i took 10, it felt like the scene from the glass house where mr glass goes out to find his addict doctor some drugs on the street for her. he wants me to go to rehab in guelf, says its the best in ontario, i cant detox cold turkey at home, i will kill myself, that im certain, and my son is autistic and hes very challanging at times, i want to be focused on him not the w/ds. possibly going into detox then a program for a little might help me i have the time while im off work, its just a matter of time before they find out what i do. i deal with narcs everyday, how can i go back to that job unless i go to treatment...

[Princess]

i dont just use percs tho, i mean i understand im not as heavy as some others caus its only been a year but the longer u take the higher ur drug tolerance is, up until last wednesday i was taking dilaudids, oxys and using morphine sq as well as the percs every day, i guess its caus my close friend is on methadone shes so gun ho about it,but i bet if they piss tested me tomorrow they wont see enough narcs in my system right now anyway. ive had to result to dealing with the percs caus i had nothiung else and i ran outta the percs today and had nothing all day and wanted to kill myself and i was balling my eyes out. and my husband went out and found me some tyl 3 and i took 10, it felt like the scene from the glass house where mr glass goes out to find his addict doctor some drugs on the street for her. he wants me to go to rehab in guelf, says its the best in ontario, i cant detox cold turkey at home, i will kill myself, that im certain, and my son is autistic and hes very challanging at times, i want to be focused on him not the w/ds. possibly going into detox then a program for a little might help me i have the time while im off work, its just a matter of time before they find out what i do. i deal with narcs everyday, how can i go back to that job unless i go to treatment...

Do you get any of your meds from a doctor? If so, you could tell the dr that u want to stop all the meds and ask what he suggests....clonodine helps. There are many options online too as far as natural herbs and stuff that help....I've used the 'ole poppy tea, kratom, tons of wheatgrass, etc before wor a week or so at a time until I got a refill....but probably could have gone without the fill if it wasn't for the legitimate pain.

Do they prescribe methadone for pain where you live? If so, if you are honest with a doctor, they might prescribe it for you? Who knows...

Just my thoughts! I wish I could hug you. Sounds like you've got a full plate.

xoxo
;(

[irish]

I think that everyone here is trying to help you with the advice to not take methadone. Right now you are taking 30mg of oxy or 300mg of codeine (t3's). I know that w/d can really fuck with your head but it is a temporary situation. Just be glad that you are not a chronic pain patient who has been cut off. Read my "incredibly thankfull" thread to see what I mean. since you live in ontario yyou can get otc codeine. I recommend the ac&c tablets, you ask for them at the pharmacy counter. 200 pills costs about $20. they only have 8mg of codeine in each but if you look in the codeine section you will find two extraction techniques. I recomend the syringe method because it cuts down on the amount of caffiene you will be taking. Start out with about 30 pills per dose and work your way down. This dose should stop all of your withdrawal symptoms. People here actually do care and have a lot of experience in this. Somer of us go through full blown w/d on a monthly basis and have learned some tricks to make it bearable.

[eerased]

Hi alissanurse, Welcome to the opi zoo:D Great folks here with some good advice.. IMHO if I were you I would try to avoid going to methadone. You might just have to chip until you get another good source. If you goto methadone and then decide for whatever reason you dont/cant go to the clinic anymore you will pay dearly.. Way worse then any of the wd you've had so far!

Of course the clinic is going to tell you NOT to quit ct to go with methadone. It's a business and selling methadone is there main goal!! Not what you need or dont need. In case I misread that and you meant the detox told you not to quit cold turkey which Ive not heard of unless the detox is a methadone provider as well.

try www.suboxone.com (http://www.suboxone.com) to see if there is a place in your area..

It's obvious you dont want to quit and I dont blame you.. I love me opis.. You could always get some 222 as mentioned above to hold you till either you find a dr or a supply somewhere.

You wouldn't need anywhere near 30 at one time. Even though you take other things besides the percs at your daily dose as of now you may very well have dropped your tolerance so start with maybe 10-15 make sure and use a CWE.. See where to go from there..

Please heed every-ones warning about methadone.. It's no joke. You will be a slave to it. The withdraw from methadone is 100x's worse than percs. I've done both and I never felt like I wanted to kill myself as much as I did when wd from done. The hard part of quitting is after the physical wds. the cravings and the obsession with finding/getting/taking pills.

I feel for ya sister as I and I"m sure most everyone else here has been there at least once in our fulltime junky career.
Also consider looking into pods. They have been a lifesaver for me. I only started with them last week and I haven't touched a pill sense, I'm not craving and NO withdraw. They are a good buzz too!

Edit: Another bonus on pods a BIG money saver compared to 5$ a pop for percs.. PSS I was also paying 5 at a time even when getting 100 at a time.. RIP OFF but in times of desperation you'll give you big toe to get what you need!

[irish]

30 of the ac&c tablets is only 240mg of codeine. If she took 10 tylenol #3 she was getting 300mg of codeine. So 30 of the ac&c is actually a step down.

[riotgrrrl]

possibly going into detox then a program for a little might help me i have the time while im off work, its just a matter of time before they find out what i do. i deal with narcs everyday, how can i go back to that job unless i go to treatment...


My SO just went through this professionally if you need advice she can help. There are programs that are tailored for healthcare workers who deal with narcatics daily.

[Princess]

I agree with Eerased....pods are a good choice and a good start. I actually order mine on Ebay....they help control FENTANYL w/d's....and those are the only w/d's I've ever had. Worst experience in my life. If I rin out of patches, I make a strong cup of the tea and feel worlds better.

The only reason I've taken 'done is for pain, but I switched back to the fentanyl patches thus cutting the 'done withdrawls.

This is why this place is so great, we've all had our own experiences and only want to help others.

We're here for ya, honey!

[eerased]

Just wondering how you are doing alissanurse? Let us know!

What I meant by the 222's was start low and work your way up. There is no need to start and 30. If trying to just hold back the wds she can always add to the mix until she feels better.

[nick]

Just wanted to point out that it will never be easier to kick than now.

I wouldn't even consider 'done yet.

Much luck.

[Inspektahdek]

i'm not aware of any subutex/suboxone in canada, i don't think its available here. I live in winnipeg, nobody here that i know knows what those drugs are, but everyones on methadone here, for pills , as there is hardly any h. .


I would give or try advice to the Canucks to try to go over the border and find a doctor who practices sub in NY or a bordering state and one that may practice inside their own home or private office, you know one that can't run their own real practice, I've been to quacks like this before, and this wasn't in Europe, this was in the States, I made an appt with a friends' doc and met her in her own house and did our appt in her office and all I did was show translated MRI sheets and walked out with percocet 10s, etc. I mean, there's gotta be a sub doctor that's compassionate enough to help a northern neighbour Canadian out right?