PCP

[ryan5892]

Has anyone had any experience with this drug? I see videos all the time of people going all out crazy on it. i have always wondered what it feels like...

[upstate_007]

I have more experience with dust than I should, and I can tell you that it is a motherfucker of a drug. Smoke enough of that shit and you will lose your fucking mind.

I have some funny (well, funny now) stories about smoking dust, but also some really bad ones about getting locked up in the psych ward kind of stories.

Be real careful if you are going to dabble in that world.

[ryan5892]

i was not thinking of trying it, in fact, i dont even know if i could get it or not.

i was just wondering what it was like after seeing videos of people running around naked trying to kill cops and shit

im glad my drugs dont make me do that haha

[upstate_007]

One of the funnier times I smoked dust.......

I rolled up a big ol' joint with weed, coke and a nice helping of dust while driving home from the city. By the time I got upstate, I was extremely fucked up. The kind of fucked up that legends are made of. My friend and I ended up in a supermarket running around the place at full speed plowing into displays like football players sending groceries flying everywhere. Throwing stuff at eachother and customers in the store. I thought I was James Brown the whole time. Screaming and yelling in a halfassed attempt to sound like the godfather of soul. Of course the evening ended badly when the authorities showed up.

That stuff really makes you feel super-human. Lifting a car and throwing it at a bus seems possible. Climbing trees and jumping out onto people seems like a great idea. Fighting everyone seems fun.

[OxyContinuously]

To the original poster:

i had the un-fortunateness to try dust on one accasion and it was disgusting; I mean a total mind-f***, nothing useful, and a very physical high...

some idiots tell u about "whet sticks" "fry daddies" or whatever, just know that that is NOT dust, but rather embalming fluid (formaldehyde-- a totally different chemical than PCP)

formaldehyde is a preservative (and incidentally a known carcinogen) and PCP is phencyclidine (and a dissociative in the same family as ketamine)

take care, and if u want my 2 cents, don't waste ur time!!

later

Oxy

[SomniGod]

I concur with Oxycontinuously...fry (wet) is different than true dust....true dust is a suped-up ketamine-like experience...wet is like being stoned on weed and high on freon (without the wah-wahs).

that's the best way for me to describe it.

Finding real pcp these days is a real task!!!! Most people will just give you wet and tell u its dust.


as always, becareful when playing with these chemicals.....they can have devastating effects on your mind/life.

~S~

[aj11]

Swim smoked quite a lot of that shit and bet he could lift the back end of an old lincon sedan. SWIM did lift it off the ground.. cut to the next day , both arms from wrist to shoulders were completly black and blue and completly useless
ahh good times

[tyrant]

To the original poster:

i had the un-fortunateness to try dust on one accasion and it was disgusting; I mean a total mind-f***, nothing useful, and a very physical high...

some idiots tell u about "whet sticks" "fry daddies" or whatever, just know that that is NOT dust, but rather embalming fluid (formaldehyde-- a totally different chemical than PCP)

formaldehyde is a preservative (and incidentally a known carcinogen) and PCP is phencyclidine (and a dissociative in the same family as ketamine)

take care, and if u want my 2 cents, don't waste ur time!!

later

Oxy


Actually, you are kind of wrong. Wet, fry, dips, sherm, as well as "embalming fluid" are generally all phencyclidine. "Embalming Fluid" is just another slang term that spread into the media and urban legends. Screaming "SWEET JESUS THE CHILDREN ARE ACTUALLY SMOKING FORMALDEHYDE DAMN THIS PERMISSIVE LIBERAL DRUG CULTURE WONT SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN ETC ETC!!!" makes for a great scare story on the six oclock news. This leads to kids smoking dust and calling it embalming fluid and actually believing it to be formaldehyde. I don't have a degree in chemistry, however id imagine that if you attempted to dip a cigarette into actual embalming fluid and smoke it, your lung tissue would probably necrotize immediately and you would be dead. If anyone ever tried it, I'd bet no one who saw them do it followed suit. PCP that you see on the street is usually just that - PCP. When seen in jars or dipped cigarettes or mint leaves or what have you, it is generally adulterated with (i shit you not) lighter fluid....rubbing alcohol....shit, ive even heard ether.


And umm, yeah...like all horror stories about street drugs, its dangers are somewhat exaggerated. But not by much. I know several people who have lost touch with reality for a few days smoking wet. The high...hmm..if Ketamine was a person, Dust would be his emotionally unstable older brother who shows signs of early onset schizophrenia. He wears a jean jacket with the sleeves cut off and is really into knives.

That being said...it can be kind of fun.

[tyrant]

I concur with Oxycontinuously...fry (wet) is different than true dust....true dust is a suped-up ketamine-like experience...wet is like being stoned on weed and high on freon (without the wah-wahs).

that's the best way for me to describe it.

Finding real pcp these days is a real task!!!! Most people will just give you wet and tell u its dust.


as always, becareful when playing with these chemicals.....they can have devastating effects on your mind/life.

~S~

by "wah-wahs" do you mean the "whomf-whomf-whomf"s? Cause i got those the few times i smoked the shit....

and yeah, PCP is the only chemical I know that gives you actual hallucinations. Not like the "look at the incredible interplay of textures and shades in the filthy jeans im wearing" kind of hallucinations, but more like the "i had a conversation with my 4th grade teacher about the real meaning behind the song 'Disco Inferno' but i was in a bathroom stall all alone" type of hallucinations.

[slugbone]

i was not thinking of trying it, in fact, i dont even know if i could get it or not.

i was just wondering what it was like after seeing videos of people running around naked trying to kill cops and shit

im glad my drugs dont make me do that haha


like some others i smoked it with some weed when i was in college. i defninitely started getting paranoid and my vision was very distorted, the door seemed 100 feet away even though i was standing in front of it, strange pictures in my head when i closed my eyes.

i had "tracers" where i would do something and it would happen again two or three times. hard to explain.

i ran around locking the door over and over again, then laid down iwth the lights off and after what seemed hours i started to calm down and the distorted visions stopped.

i wouldnt do it again

[OxyContinuously]

Actually, you are kind of wrong. Wet, fry, dips, sherm, as well as "embalming fluid" are generally all phencyclidine. "Embalming Fluid" is just another slang term that spread into the media and urban legends. Screaming "SWEET JESUS THE CHILDREN ARE ACTUALLY SMOKING FORMALDEHYDE DAMN THIS PERMISSIVE LIBERAL DRUG CULTURE WONT SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN ETC ETC!!!" makes for a great scare story on the six oclock news. This leads to kids smoking dust and calling it embalming fluid and actually believing it to be formaldehyde. I don't have a degree in chemistry, however id imagine that if you attempted to dip a cigarette into actual embalming fluid and smoke it, your lung tissue would probably necrotize immediately and you would be dead. If anyone ever tried it, I'd bet no one who saw them do it followed suit. PCP that you see on the street is usually just that - PCP. When seen in jars or dipped cigarettes or mint leaves or what have you, it is generally adulterated with (i shit you not) lighter fluid....rubbing alcohol....shit, ive even heard ether.


And umm, yeah...like all horror stories about street drugs, its dangers are somewhat exaggerated. But not by much. I know several people who have lost touch with reality for a few days smoking wet. The high...hmm..if Ketamine was a person, Dust would be his emotionally unstable older brother who shows signs of early onset schizophrenia. He wears a jean jacket with the sleeves cut off and is really into knives.

That being said...it can be kind of fun.


i'm not interested in arguing w/ you dude. you're mis-informed, and we'll leave it at that!

[SurfRat]

Swim smoked quite a lot of that shit and bet he could lift the back end of an old lincon sedan. SWIM did lift it off the ground.. cut to the next day , both arms from wrist to shoulders were completly black and blue and completly useless
ahh good times
Good times indeed!

I smoked a fair amount and thought it was great fun. Sometimes the whole world looked like a wet oil painting that had gotten all smeared around, and other times me an my friends had to crawl on our hands and knees because walking was out of the question, when you had done a lot. It was fully like visiting
planet Mars for a couple hours. We would lose shit and forget shit like total idiots, that stuff was great and I am not being sarcastic. Nevertherless this was thirty years ago and I have not done any since nor do I plan to anytime soon.

PCP gave cops a catch all excuse to attack and assault anybody they do not like. Beat the hell out of a drunk, not ok. Beat the hell out of "I thought he was on PCP" and that makes it ok. It does give you kind of a feeling of invincibility but I never knew anybody who attacked people or anything like that. Unless you have that propensity already in you, and even then you wouldn't be any more of a threat than any other hopped up lunatic acting out and making the worst of it.

[TokinDerrick]

why is it that pcp makes people usually get naked and run down the street? haha

[HistoryofMadness]

fuck wet mayne.

[Ludakris]

I too have had the unfortunate experience of smoking this shit. It was by accidental misfortune though, back in the young and stupid days. My friends and I bought a bag of reefer through one of the guy's girlfriend's brother (who always seemed a few cards short of a full deck). Anyhow, fast forward to the night we actually got into that bag of weed, we were rolling at a club and as usual, went back to the house (there was 12 of us living in the house at this time) and smoked some weed to come down from the roll.

We loaded up the bong, rolled a couple J's and got a couple pipes moving, at first I noticed a strange taste, but chalked it up to coming off of E. Well, from that point on, things got bad and fast. I remember seeing the entire city inside of our living room and I was just sitting there completely confused and a bit freaked out that an entire city was residing in my living room, and it wasn't like "I'm tripping and am seeing shit" I was totally convinced that this was reality and refused to go in there. I pointed it out to some of the other guys and I guess through the power of suggestion and PCP a lot of the others saw the city in the living room. One of them got pale white, threw his glasses against the wall and was screaming "if I can't see it, it's not there!"

At this point it was just a battle to try and maintain sanity and find that line between reality and fantasy. A lot of the guys were wondering around, freaking out while some of us stayed in the "green room" to attempt to maintain (and smoke some different weed). Anyways, all of a sudden this one guy comes running out from the other side of the house, butt naked and yelling in Vietnamese, his speech was so slurred and mumbled I couldn't begin to understand him and he jumped up and down on the couch like a monkey and smashed a drinking glass on his head.

The night continued much like this for quite awhile until that shit finally started wearing off, but it was definitely one of, if not the most, unpleasant drug experiences I've ever had (and I'm sure my friends would say the same). Needless to say, we flushed the rest of that stash (later one of the more drug savvy guys showed us the brown crystals that was all over the bud and let us know that it was, indeed PCP).

Sorry to go on so long, but I think it's a good depiction of what PCP is like :p

[WarmCyanide]

At this point it was just a battle to try and maintain sanity and find that line between reality and fantasy.

i feel a panic attack coming on right now, thanks.:o

[Hammilton]

Actually, you are kind of wrong. Wet, fry, dips, sherm, as well as "embalming fluid" are generally all phencyclidine. "Embalming Fluid" is just another slang term that spread into the media and urban legends. Screaming "SWEET JESUS THE CHILDREN ARE ACTUALLY SMOKING FORMALDEHYDE DAMN THIS PERMISSIVE LIBERAL DRUG CULTURE WONT SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN ETC ETC!!!" makes for a great scare story on the six oclock news. This leads to kids smoking dust and calling it embalming fluid and actually believing it to be formaldehyde. I don't have a degree in chemistry, however id imagine that if you attempted to dip a cigarette into actual embalming fluid and smoke it, your lung tissue would probably necrotize immediately and you would be dead. If anyone ever tried it, I'd bet no one who saw them do it followed suit. PCP that you see on the street is usually just that - PCP. When seen in jars or dipped cigarettes or mint leaves or what have you, it is generally adulterated with (i shit you not) lighter fluid....rubbing alcohol....shit, ive even heard ether.


And umm, yeah...like all horror stories about street drugs, its dangers are somewhat exaggerated. But not by much. I know several people who have lost touch with reality for a few days smoking wet. The high...hmm..if Ketamine was a person, Dust would be his emotionally unstable older brother who shows signs of early onset schizophrenia. He wears a jean jacket with the sleeves cut off and is really into knives.

That being said...it can be kind of fun.



You might want to actually look into what you're talking about before writing so much that isn't true. Not everything bad about the drug culture is the result of ill informed conservatives.

There is absolutely a rise in actual formaldehyde/weed use, primarily in Texas, as I recall. You can't go back 5 years in the Journal of Psychoactive Drugs without learning all you need to learn.

[OxyContinuously]

Good call, Hammilton^^^

and yeah, I head about that too....boy, if these people knew what damage form. was doing to them, they would never smoke it again...

I was going to point out a stark contrast between real phencyclidine and "whet"...real PCP smells like plastic, but very chemical-ish (bear w me, it's really hard to describe a smell u know?) and form. smells like a funeral home...We've all been to one prob. at least once in our lives for a loved one's wake or service...but my point is that smell that lingers in the air, stings the nose on contact (similar to vinegar, but more intrusive) is formaldehyde, and a lot of the "Dust" that goes around in lower New York (which by the way, it almost NEVER does..this is something that is not sought at all; lower New YOrkers are ecstasy, coke, painkillers and powder diesel, and weed) is in fact formaldehyde

like Hamm was saying, it is most often pre soaked into cigarettes and smoked OR weed is soaked in it and dried and then smoked (what a waste of weed, shit!)

but formaldehyde is not a dissociative. WHile PCP causes effects because it acts on the (Limbic?) system of the brain and related, formaldehyde produces "effects" because you are in fact destroying the integrity of important neurotransmitters (acetylcholine) causing ur brain to in fact "misfire" and cause as a result perceptual disturbances. To be blunt, you are being POISONED...Oh and a little treat for the "whet" smokers--> formaldehyde is listed as a Class A carcinogen by Merck and others. THis means that with one exposure, u have already put the odds against you and if u smoke it like a fool, well, then, let';s just say, you WILL be enjoying cancer later on in life. (no maybe, or possibly, but with aldehydes, cancer is a common "side effect", also some heavier alkanes like "heptane" but that's another story)

I always get irritated when I hear about PCP being confused with "formaldehyde"

anyway, just typing about those two gives me the c h i l l s!!

later folks

[Tea Time]

There is absolutely a rise in actual formaldehyde/weed use, primarily in Texas, as I recall. You can't go back 5 years in the Journal of Psychoactive Drugs without learning all you need to learn.

You are right Hammilton. In Houston and the surrounding area people will actually seek the formaldehyde/weed out. That is really a huge drug trend there. And you are also right about most of these people having absolutely no knowledge of how harmful it is to their bodies. It is just crazy.

Coincidentally, Houston is also a major player in the production of "real" PCP. According to the DEA Houston and Los Angeles are the two cities where almost all of the PCP in this country is produced and then transported to other cities.

[}<<<*-*>>>{]

The last time I did Phencyclidine, REAL PCP, it was dusted on mushrooms without me having prior knowledge of it. Anyways, anytime I do shrooms I eat 1/4-1/2oz and lavish it heavily with heaping amounts of Nitrous Oxide. Well, being that I didn't at the time know that my shit was dusted I did the same... big mistake. See, both N2O and PCP are dissociative anesthetics and when combined can cause serious health and mental problems. It took me awhile of going in and out of consciousness to figure out something just wasn't right and to lay off the Nitrous but before I did I had a very vivid true to life hallucination that a car had crashed through my bedroom wall and had to convince my roommates that it had actually happened. When they showed me that nothing had smashed through my house I knew it was time to lay off the gas and ride the trip out as best I could. PCP, and Ketamine for that matter, are not party drugs and are not to be taken lightly or by people without true grit and experience... I doubt most would find anything enjoyable in it. I am of the unique mindset that I enjoy K-holes and near death experiences; still was mighty pissed that I was passed angel dust under the guise of benign mushrooms though. Sold the rest of the nasty devils to my moms best friends who love to get wet and go rafting... in the end everyone won I suppose, and I don't think that the asshole that pulled a fast one on me will ever think of fucking me like that again. Drugs should never be misrepresented for sale, it's wrong and anyone who does it deserves the boot. We aint talkin' antiques here, I'm putting this shit in me and my loved ones bodies and I don't take it lightly. I like to get buck wild but atleast let me know what I'm getting into, ya know?

[tyrant]

well...jesus shitfuckwow.

I guess it takes the South to up the fucking ante on stupidity. kids are actually smoking formaldehyde? i always thought that was some kind of urban legend. i stand corrected and find myself pouring out a 40 in loving memory of the childrens.

and my only dust smoking experiences consist of mint leaves and dipped newports from harlem and newark, respectively. As ive said, the closest i can compare it to is evil ketamine. But i cant see how inhaling formaldehyde would slightly approximate pcp...wouldnt it be the same fuckin thing as huffing fuel or spraypaint?

[chinaski]

if I shoot formaldehyde will it be an awesome buzz?










heh

[skeletontea]

When I was 16, or 17 some friends and I purchased some herb that was, unbeknownst to us, laced. I've told the story before, so I won't go into details.

The effects were nearly identical to a latter time during which I'd combined cannabis, and dextromethorpan; the exception being that with PCP, I marveled at the dissociative effect, and became fascinated by my analgesia. I became indiscriminately angry at one point (the misdirected rage I felt, was easily quelled through inward contemplation, and deep breathing.)

I suppose the moral of this experience is, don't buy weed from a 10 to 12 year old tweaker (I have no idea where my friend made that connection. Granted the kid was a middleman, it was weird nonetheless.)

[Duckfeet]

I kind of agree with most of yer post: so many other things turned out to be just plain old pcp, and it's been around forever, and it always seemed like low-rent and idiot types would always think it was cool, but I hated it. It was often called "dummy dust," or "angel dust" and in different parts of the country, had different "origin myths", and, IMO, was pretty much replaced by crack in southern ghettoes, or sometimes ice.(meth).

Bikers used to sell it, such crap, lace pot with it, get u really stupid, and I hated anything where I'd loose control, not be able to take care of myself...

In S. Louisiana, it was often called "Clickum" and cigarettes were painted with it, and yeah, the "wetter" it was, the more they liked'em...and i Louisiana, especially in the projects it was really popular, and *always* considered as coming from formaldyhyde, etc...u haven't lived until u've been in a cell full of black guys describing where clickum comes from...The New Orleans paper, the Times Picayune finally came out with a big article, on how bad clickum had gotten, and how they *had* to do something about it, and yes, how it was always same old thing, pcp, never ever formaldyhide or anything exotic, just plain old animal tranquilizer, and suckass shit, for sure...so again, I've heard guys swear up and down it was formaldihyde or "heroin mixed with cocaine mixed with reds" or all kinds of shit, but anytime a newspaper would mention it, they'd always say it was just same tired old pcp...

I'd fuck somebody up, they put that in *anything* did. I hate the shit..."dummy dust" is rite...

As usual, Wiki gets it right: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phencyclidine



Actually, you are kind of wrong.
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That being said...it can be kind of fun.

[clinton]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHbU8GkLTcA





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wgyx5JPkxxY






http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enAKtY4UUBc

[Frank Zito]

i'm not interested in arguing w/ you dude. you're mis-informed, and we'll leave it at that!


You might want to actually look into what you're talking about before writing so much that isn't true. Not everything bad about the drug culture is the result of ill informed conservatives.

There is absolutely a rise in actual formaldehyde/weed use, primarily in Texas, as I recall. You can't go back 5 years in the Journal of Psychoactive Drugs without learning all you need to learn.

ACTuaLLY...TYRANT is RIGHT. ANyone that has gotten all MUMMIFIED...By that I mean "DUSTY" knows that "wet", "dust", "sherm" and whatever other slang is used for PCP is PCP and PCP only. Back in the DAY peeps used to use the EMBALMING FLUID as a medium to soluablize(sp) the PCP to be able to lace various shit with...mint leaves, weed, oragano...whatever they are spraying down, at least that's what I have READ. I'm not even sure that that link has ever been confirmed and that could also be untrue.

I have WALKED ON WATER occasionally back in the day and I knew a FEW OLD TIME RUBBER HEADS from back in the day and they all have the same story.

Actual EMBALMING FLUID has several INGREDIENTS with just ONE of them being FORMALDEHYDE.

The PEOPLE that are attempting to actually SMOKE just plain old FORMALDEHYDE are the misinformed ones since they are falling prey to the belief that FORMALIN is actually psychoactive. Formalin or formaldehyde is present in many situations where burning is taking place such as the burning of wood, fuels and human waste. CIGARETTE and WEED smoke both contain FORMALDEHYDE...Do a little research...

OR AT LEAST KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BEFORE YOU CALL SOMEONE WRONG...

http://www.erowid.org/ask/ask.php?ID=2990

Here's just ONE link that points to some truth to my post. There are HUNDREDS more. There are also articles on the net that do say FORMALDEHYDE smoking has BEEN on the rise but most of those read like JENKUM scare propaganda. There's also SEVERAL articles that REPORT that smoking FORMALDEHYDE wouldn't produce any desirable effects.

If someone asks a question, and you can only give a half assed answer or try to SEEM like you know what you're talking about to be "cool" or "smart" could be dangerous. Especially when it comes to shit like DUST.

[Frank Zito]

Just READ ducks post. HE got it right too. If I woulda' read that I wouldn't have wrote the book I did. SORRY.

[pizzaboy]

Had a year or so of messing with this shit myself...we called it greens. For us (mid-atlantic beach area) it was parsley dusted with the shit sold in plastic film cans...half a can for such and such a price or a full can for such and such a price. Can't recall the prices...but I do recall flushing the last little bit I had down the toilet just a few weeks before I married my first wife. I disassociated myself with the people who often had it, and never looked back.

It smells funny too, or at least I recall it does.

P

[Frank Zito]

It smells like burning poly-styrene at a FISH fry.

[Duckfeet]

Yeah, it was kind of part of the world in, what, early eighties, to me, and even before that, in the seventies, some bike clubs liked it, and even down in Florida, clubs I kind of respected would sell it, do it with grass...me I always hated it, and always would nut up and got in a bad fight with some guys from michigan once, who thought it was funny to lace the pot, and not tell people...I"ve got nothing but bad memories of the shit, and *every* time, I looked into it at all, or it would be in the paper, it would *always* be pcp...but guys just want to believe different...I get a real hard on about the shit, it really did damage...anybody read that wiki article on it, see why: i knew first time I did it, it was *no* good....*stupid* shit, to me, never met anybody who liked it, who wasn't half retard to begin with....

Anybody who likes that shit, needs to start a pcpphile board, and watch the kind of numbnut spastics that show up....

[reddragon3668]

I am so glad I never come across any of that stuff when I was a kid. I was a dumbass, and more than likely, would have tried it just to say I did.

[Black_Pony]

I knew formaldehyde is used in the production of cigarettes. My understanding is that it helps your grit burn even and keeps it from going out. I personally appreciate having it as an ingredient, even though some might consider it an unnecessary carcinogen.

On the other hand, I can't POSSIBLY IMAGINE that formaldehyde occurs naturally in marijuana. I haven't done any research, so let me know if I'm wrong. I wouldn't mind a little to keep my joints from going out during a long nod!



CIGARETTE and WEED smoke both contain FORMALDEHYDE...Do a little research...

[Duckfeet]

Yeah, I guess everybody's has some unpleasant substance that just triggers all kinds of *bad* memories, and for me that is pcp, since just about *always* it was given to me in a "sneaky" fashion, and I felt, and some others did too, that at that time anyway, it was pcp that was the curse of the oldtime Bike clubs:

the clubs themselves, thought the worst curse in the world was *any* iv junky, and had all kinds of rules and regulations, and I was called "Junkie Jeff" and a lot of the world kind of closed off to me, since I was fairly open about my opiate shooting ways.

In the *early* seventies, there were a lot of Vietnam Vets who got Harleys, and of course, a lot of us shot up dope, and there was all kinds of shit going on, political, kind of, on this area, and I understood their point, as junkies', fuck, the honest truth is, we *can* be treacherous and would double-cross our mother for a fix, so I understood it, but a lot of them kept my friendship, and liked hanging out with me, because I was a good "wrench" and rode hard, and those were the main things, that we judged each other by...I road up to Sturgis several times in the early eighties, and knew guys who were officers in a couple of the "big clubs," and actually remember when one of them made it mandatory that anybody who ived was thrown out of club, and just all kinds of shit....

But again, lot of old memories come back, and I knew smaller clubs that pretty much just died out, when they got behind PCP, and oh well, I"m doing the "old guy" thing, kind of going down memory lane...

[jackjohnson]

i'm not interested in arguing w/ you dude. you're mis-informed, and we'll leave it at that!

not starting shit but actually he's 100% correct and i'm afraid you're the one who's been mis-informed. (again not starting shit, just stating facts and sticking to truth/harm reduction, someone might read your post and think smoking formaldehyde gets you high, which is completely false).

[jackjohnson]

You might want to actually look into what you're talking about before writing so much that isn't true. Not everything bad about the drug culture is the result of ill informed conservatives.

There is absolutely a rise in actual formaldehyde/weed use, primarily in Texas, as I recall. You can't go back 5 years in the Journal of Psychoactive Drugs without learning all you need to learn.

again, in the interest of harm reduction and truth, and not trying to start trouble, maybe YOU should look into what you're talking about: the rise in formaldehyde in weed you hear of is a slang term for PCP - people call PCP (phencyclidine) "formaldehyde" or "embalming fluid", the reason it got these nicknames is because the liquid form looks like real formaldehyde. btw, do these sound like effects someone would want to gain from a recreational drug? --

At concentrations above 0.1 ppm in air, formaldehyde can irritate the eyes and mucous membranes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mucous_membrane), resulting in watery eyes. If inhaled, formaldehyde at this concentration may cause headaches, a burning sensation in the throat, and difficulty breathing, as well as triggering or aggravating asthma symptoms.[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formaldehyde#_note-7) Formaldehyde is classified as a probable human carcinogen by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, and as having sufficient evidence that formaldehyde causes nasopharyngeal cancer in humans by the International Agency for Research on Cancer.

[OxyContinuously]

ACTuaLLY...TYRANT is RIGHT. ANyone that has gotten all MUMMIFIED...By that I mean "DUSTY" knows that "wet", "dust", "sherm" and whatever other slang is used for PCP is PCP and PCP only. Back in the DAY peeps used to use the EMBALMING FLUID as a medium to soluablize(sp) the PCP to be able to lace various shit with...mint leaves, weed, oragano...whatever they are spraying down, at least that's what I have READ. I'm not even sure that that link has ever been confirmed and that could also be untrue.

I have WALKED ON WATER occasionally back in the day and I knew a FEW OLD TIME RUBBER HEADS from back in the day and they all have the same story.

Actual EMBALMING FLUID has several INGREDIENTS with just ONE of them being FORMALDEHYDE.

The PEOPLE that are attempting to actually SMOKE just plain old FORMALDEHYDE are the misinformed ones since they are falling prey to the belief that FORMALIN is actually psychoactive. Formalin or formaldehyde is present in many situations where burning is taking place such as the burning of wood, fuels and human waste. CIGARETTE and WEED smoke both contain FORMALDEHYDE...Do a little research...

OR AT LEAST KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BEFORE YOU CALL SOMEONE WRONG...

http://www.erowid.org/ask/ask.php?ID=2990

Here's just ONE link that points to some truth to my post. There are HUNDREDS more. There are also articles on the net that do say FORMALDEHYDE smoking has BEEN on the rise but most of those read like JENKUM scare propaganda. There's also SEVERAL articles that REPORT that smoking FORMALDEHYDE wouldn't produce any desirable effects.

If someone asks a question, and you can only give a half assed answer or try to SEEM like you know what you're talking about to be "cool" or "smart" could be dangerous. Especially when it comes to shit like DUST.

dude, theres no formaldehyde in marijuana smoke, first of all. what there is though are a higher level of "hydrocarbons" than in say, a newport or some shit....Some aldehydes *can* be formed from hydrocarbons in the human body, but we're talking in the nano and even picogram ranges here....nothing to harm u at all, not a chance in hell. SO unless someone laces the pot with "embalming fluid" there's none in it....

and if u've ever smelled "real" PCP, and formaldehyde, the difference is unmistakable...In my area at least, when it comes around, it's called "whet" of "fry" or whatever, and it is indeed formaldeyde, NOT PCP...like i said, the 2 are distinct chems, diff. properties, different smell, and by the way, phencyclidine doesn't need to be normalized, or whatever u were saying because it's a hydrochloride salt and its vaporization point is low enough that u get results from a regular lighter...

I mean seriously do you even have the faintist clue what you are talking about? Because I *do*, and frankly, if u were right here, I would laugh in your face.

I could go further with my explanation, but honestly, I doubt you even have the capacity to understand or grasp what I'm saying, so why waste the time?? Do you even know what you're talking about?

enjoy ur sherm, and I'll enjoy laughing at you

Oxy

[jackjohnson]

dude, theres no formaldehyde in marijuana smoke, first of all. what there is though are a higher level of "hydrocarbons" than in say, a newport or some shit....Some aldehydes *can* be formed from hydrocarbons in the human body, but we're talking in the nano and even picogram ranges here....nothing to harm u at all, not a chance in hell. SO unless someone laces the pot with "embalming fluid" there's none in it....

and if u've ever smelled "real" PCP, and formaldehyde, the difference is unmistakable...In my area at least, when it comes around, it's called "whet" of "fry" or whatever, and it is indeed formaldeyde, NOT PCP...like i said, the 2 are distinct chems, diff. properties, different smell, and by the way, phencyclidine doesn't need to be normalized, or whatever u were saying because it's a hydrochloride salt and its vaporization point is low enough that u get results from a regular lighter...

I mean seriously do you even have the faintist clue what you are talking about? Because I *do*, and frankly, if u were right here, I would laugh in your face.

I could go further with my explanation, but honestly, I doubt you even have the capacity to understand or grasp what I'm saying, so why waste the time?? Do you even know what you're talking about?

enjoy ur sherm, and I'll enjoy laughing at you

Oxy

OK. but my only question to you is why would anyone in there right mind smoke formaldehyde when it gives absolutely no high/psychoactive effect whatsoever, burns and scratches your lungs worse then the harshest weed smoke combined with unfiltered cigarettes, taste like the worst chemical ever, and gives you a massive splitting headache on top of possibly causing cancer?

[Duckfeet]

Yeah: I know people seem to get pretty angry about this. I was actually in jail, in S.Louisiana, *before* crack days, and these black guys were all talking all the time, about "clickum" which was what they called cigarettes, u know, brushed with "formaldihyde"...and the Times Picayune, the main New Orleans
Newspaper, which some cop brought in to us, had a big sunday article, running down the *plague* that pcp had become, but the article said, they had not shown formaldihyde, just pcp, always, and I showed it to these cats, and they got really pissed off at me, but I know, I go with what the most calm, rational stuff, I read, and it always said it was pcp, and that "formaldehyde" had not happened.

I'm not saying it's not possible, but again, back before crack days, it always turned out to be PCP, not formaldehyde....I'll try to drag up that article, but it's been a long time, and New Orleans, who knows what they kept and got rid of w/Katrina and all...

This is from Wiki, on embalming fluid:

Confusion with PCP
The term "embalming fluid" is also slang for the psychoactive drug PCP, and possibly other dissociatives. Confusion over this usage has led misled anti-drug speakers to condemn the use of, and drug users to mistakenly use, the actual substance.



OK. but my only question to you is why would anyone in there right mind smoke formaldehyde when it gives absolutely no high/psychoactive effect whatsoever, burns and scratches your lungs worse then the harshest weed smoke combined with unfiltered cigarettes, taste like the worst chemical ever, and gives you a massive splitting headache on top of possibly causing cancer?

[Chipper Tripper]

Man, I remember as teenagers we used to get dusted, not my high of choice but some of the homies in neighborhood brought it around. I grew up in a mostly latino communnity with lots of cholos and so we grew up in that shit.
Angel Dust, PCP, whatver its called is a one bad drug.
We used to buy 1 joint for 15-20$ bucks, the dust was sorinkled over oregano or parsely and rolled up in a joint. I can remember visting one of my homies brothers in L.A. and he bought a sherm joint for like 5$ which got him blasted, it smelled just as bad but had bit of different smell than PCP.
We used to call it KJ (killer joint), anyway, it stunk to high hell, I will never forget the smell in my life.
1 joint could easily knock out 5-6 dudes. All I can recall is a constant ringin in your head and nothing really too coherent. Its a fucked up high and drug.

[Hammilton]

again, in the interest of harm reduction and truth, and not trying to start trouble, maybe YOU should look into what you're talking about: the rise in formaldehyde in weed you hear of is a slang term for PCP - people call PCP (phencyclidine) "formaldehyde" or "embalming fluid", the reason it got these nicknames is because the liquid form looks like real formaldehyde. btw, do these sound like effects someone would want to gain from a recreational drug? --

At concentrations above 0.1 ppm in air, formaldehyde can irritate the eyes and mucous membranes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mucous_membrane), resulting in watery eyes. If inhaled, formaldehyde at this concentration may cause headaches, a burning sensation in the throat, and difficulty breathing, as well as triggering or aggravating asthma symptoms.[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formaldehyde#_note-7) Formaldehyde is classified as a probable human carcinogen by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, and as having sufficient evidence that formaldehyde causes nasopharyngeal cancer in humans by the International Agency for Research on Cancer.

The point isn't about embalming fluid being a slang term for PCP, it's that formaldehyde laced weed is a (sadly) common practice around houston.

Yeah, we all know PCP is called embalming fluid. That's nothing new. What's new is that formaldehyde laced weed is something that's being sought out. Why it is, I dunno- all I can say is that it is a real phenomenon, not the result of alarmist conservative propaganda.

If you want to argue the point, at least go through the literature that's documented it (Journal Of Psychoactive Drugs, like I mentioned before, has multiple studies on it, mostly in the last 5 years, though possibly some going back to 2000).

If all you have to add is data about formaldehyde itself you're not going to get far trying to prove that people aren't using formaldehyde.

Now go read the actual research and we can have a real discussion.

JoPD should be available at any university library. Any public library should be able to retrieve copies, though.

[bmoreblaster]

ive tried every drug under the sun but pcp for some reason scares me to death. never seen it or anyone i know do it. im so scared of it i would not get high on it for 2 grams of columbian raw dope.

[Black_Pony]

Thank You.


dude, theres no formaldehyde in marijuana smoke, first of all. what there is though are a higher level of "hydrocarbons" than in say, a newport or some shit....Some aldehydes *can* be formed from hydrocarbons in the human body, but we're talking in the nano and even picogram ranges here....nothing to harm u at all, not a chance in hell. SO unless someone laces the pot with "embalming fluid" there's none in it....


Also, i always heard the term 'fry' used to describe LSD and 'wet/whet' used to describe PCP. I guess fry can be PCP too. I learn something new every day.

[Chipper Tripper]

See the effects of PCP right here. Japanese try to play Soccer on PCP. :)

http://stupidvideos.com/video//Binoculars_Soccer/?m=new#47159

[Consumed.]

why dont we just concentrate on finding out if anyone has IVed PCP! Or stuck it in the eyeball or something

or in their ass, or implants

[Duckfeet]

Girl I knew back in Gainesville FL tried to kill herself once, IVing a bunch of PCP, back when it was all over down there...was in a coma, a real mess, best I remember...she lived tho, got over it...I hate the shit, myself, got nothing but bad memories of it, no matter what they call it...



why dont we just concentrate on finding out if anyone has IVed PCP! Or stuck it in the eyeball or something

or in their ass, or implants

[jackjohnson]

i believe you hammilton, it just boggles the mind. i just dont see the use or fun out of scratchy lungs , headache, and cancer. but maybe scrupulous dealers are dipping the pot in Formaldehyde to add weight and add a "kick", thats the only explanation i can find for it. either that or naive kids who heard formaldehyde got you high and didnt realize they were talking about PCP not actual formaldehyde went out and started putting it on weed and for some reason liked the feeling of it

[Hammilton]

I'm fairly certain it was the latter reason for formaldehyde-laced weed. Supposedly it is psychoactive, but with weed being so variable in effect, I have a hard time buying it.

It's interesting to note that adding your nuggets to sulphuric acid for an hour or so, neutralizing the acid, drying and then smoking that pot massively increases the effect.

it converts the CBN into THC, and without the CBN's depressant effects, it's way more psychedelic.

I've tried it and it makes a massive difference. Really freaking massive, actually. I'm always amazed at how much a difference it makes.

It'd be easier to do on hash or some other non-plant material weed, though.

I do one of two things: make honey oil and do it on that, or b- use plant material and let it soak longer, and then when you neutralize the acid be really freaking careful to get all the acid that absorbed into the plant neutralized as well.

That part can be a pain in the ass, but it's not really difficult, just a bit tedius. I don't really reccomend it.

Not that this is germane to the conversation...

[jonny-5]

in detox i met a guy who used to shoot peraldehyde (i dont know how its spelled, but its human embalming fluid, similar to formaldahyde but different). he said he went to a 50$ a plate restaraunt on it, and some guy was staring at him every time he looked over. he kept giving the guy dirty looks, and the guy would give em back. so he started talking shit "what the fuck is your problem dude? quit staring at me asshole!" the guy kept staring. so he got up to kick his ass and walked straight into a mirror! haha that was a funny ass story the way he told it.

but anyways he said that doing that stuff made you wanna do one of 3 things: fight, fly, or take your clothes off. luckily that nite at the restaraunt he wanted to fight and not the other 2 things. actually, i guess he would have been kicked out either way.

[StrungOutAgain]

I gotta be honest here.....I'm actually very interested in trying dust for some reason...I know crazy right?

[Chipper Tripper]

I wouldn't do it, its nothing close to an opiate high and from what I can recall, its not anything you really enjoy. You are literally a zombie.

[jackjohnson]

I gotta be honest here.....I'm actually very interested in trying dust for some reason...I know crazy right?

dont try dust. if you want to get a feeling of what dust is like drink a bottle of robitussin (just make sure the only active ingredient is dextromethorphan). chances are you wont even like that, and thats basically a weak version of PCP. (ketamine PCP and dextromethorphan are all very very similar drugs, just different dosages, durations, and ROA's and SLIGHTLY different effects).

[skc74]

There's like a number of drugs that appeared to be popular in the usa that never caught on here in the uk,PCP being one of them,though ketamine is common,also crystal meth is only just starting to show up here but has never really caught on,mainly i think cause its cheaper and does the same job to use amphetamine sulphate instead,same goes for stuff like oxycontin etc.,theyre so tightly controlled here that they're a rare novelty on the streets,and as heroins so cheap and plentiful here,it'd probably be pointless trying to sell shit like that here,but i must admit,i'd like to try it just the once for the exprerience,how similar are its effects to ketamine? anyone know?

[Tea Time]

It's interesting to note that adding your nuggets to sulphuric acid for an hour or so, neutralizing the acid, drying and then smoking that pot massively increases the effect.

it converts the CBN into THC, and without the CBN's depressant effects, it's way more psychedelic.

I've tried it and it makes a massive difference. Really freaking massive, actually. I'm always amazed at how much a difference it makes.

It'd be easier to do on hash or some other non-plant material weed, though.

I do one of two things: make honey oil and do it on that, or b- use plant material and let it soak longer, and then when you neutralize the acid be really freaking careful to get all the acid that absorbed into the plant neutralized as well.

That part can be a pain in the ass, but it's not really difficult, just a bit tedius. I don't really reccomend it.

That is very interesting Hammilton. I hadn't ever heard of anyone doing this. Like I said, it sounds interesting though...


in detox i met a guy who used to shoot peraldehyde (i dont know how its spelled, but its human embalming fluid, similar to formaldahyde but different). he said he went to a 50$ a plate restaraunt on it, and some guy was staring at him every time he looked over. he kept giving the guy dirty looks, and the guy would give em back. so he started talking shit "what the fuck is your problem dude? quit staring at me asshole!" the guy kept staring. so he got up to kick his ass and walked straight into a mirror! haha that was a funny ass story the way he told it.

but anyways he said that doing that stuff made you wanna do one of 3 things: fight, fly, or take your clothes off. luckily that nite at the restaraunt he wanted to fight and not the other 2 things. actually, i guess he would have been kicked out either way.

:D:D:D


I gotta be honest here.....I'm actually very interested in trying dust for some reason...I know crazy right?

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...but i must admit,i'd like to try it just the once for the exprerience,how similar are its effects to ketamine? anyone know?

It is related to the other dissociative anesthetics like ketamine and dextromethorphan only "spacier" and stronger. If you were curious about it, you could just try ketamine. And honestly, I personally think that Ketamine is much more enjoyable. It also doesn't cause you to lose control in the way that PCP sorta does...

[Hammilton]

Paraldehyde is actually a scheduled drug, not embalming fluid. They're both aldehydes, though.

It's a depressant that gives you absolutely horrible breath.

[feelings of u4ia]

i'm not interested in arguing w/ you dude. you're mis-informed, and we'll leave it at that!


There appears to be a current trend of the use of substances known alternately by the slang names 'embalming fluid', 'fry', 'formaldehyde', 'wet', 'water', or 'amp'. These are sold in a variety of forms including cannabis joints or regular cigarettes dipped in liquid and cannabis leaf or tea leaves dipped in liquid. In all of these forms, the material is then smoked. Despite the variety of names, there is good reason to believe that these are all various preparations containing PCP.

In most instances PCP is not mentioned when the substance is sold or discussed. In fact, there are constantly re-circulating rumors that substances being sold by these names do not contain PCP, but are instead actually the fluid (formaldehyde) used for embalming as would be used in a mortuary. But there is evidence to support that this is primarily a case of confused slang terms. 'Embalming Fluid' is a common street slang term for PCP and has been for many years. PCP can come in liquid form, so the term 'fluid' is fitting. It is entirely possible (actually quite likely) that the confusion between PCP and embalming fluid (formaldehyde) has gone so far as to cause a new trend where PCP is actually mixed with formaldehye (or other 'embalming fluids') and used as a recreational psychoactive. But there is little evidence that the formaldehyde itself causes any pleasant or desirable effects.

Embalming fluid, as used in a mortuary, is traditionally made from formaldehyde. It does not contain PCP. Formaldehyde and PCP are completely different chemicals, which are not related. Formaldehyde is a known carcinogen linked to nasal and lung cancer, and with possible links to brain cancer and leukemia and should not be smoked.

Taken from Erowid.

[losangeleslifer]

Taken from Erowid.

Thanks, but why?

[feelings of u4ia]

Thanks, but why?

ROFL, I just noticed the date of the last post. Sorry guys.

I didn't realize that this part of the forum was so dead...

I was just reading through the posts and wanted to post that info, because it seems like a lot of people on this thread seem to have been misinformed.

Again, sorry about pulling up a crazy old thread. At least it was in a sub-forum that is so dead that this thread was still on the first page.

:P

[losangeleslifer]

Aw heck man, I think everyone has done it at least once.:D

[buc]

Fontana California was thick with dust in the 70's. We used to get it on mint leaf or Sherman's. Sometimes the kids at school sold it in prerolled pinner joints for a buck each. Me and my phsyco friends smoked it all the time.

A few hits of some "good" dust and you felt about two feet tall.........strangeness that's almost indescribable. We didn't sit around laughing it up when we were "dusted". It was more like drifting into your own private freakout. Not for weak minds........dust separated the men from the boys. Coversation became impossible, vision blurred, sounds distorted, no fluid thought completely fried.

You might ask.......where's the pleasure in that? Fuck if I know. The craziest part is we did it with other drugs. Weed,ludes.........fucking acid. One thing for sure.........we weren't just playing stoners.......we were living stoners.

[mikey5string]

The high...hmm..if Ketamine was a person, Dust would be his emotionally unstable older brother who shows signs of early onset schizophrenia. He wears a jean jacket with the sleeves cut off and is really into knives.

That being said...it can be kind of fun.


ahaha. awesome.

[TheJuggla1207]

i have tried dust as well, but i didnt know i smoked it until afterwards. the story is almost like the scene from "Friday" when Smoky smokes dust unknownigly. what happened was there is this park near my house that during my sophomore and junior years of high school we used to go up to and party in. im talking like 40+ people there on a friday and saturday night. well back then i was a big pothead as well as a drunk. so one night there is this guy up there that i knew from partyin up there and he was rollin a blunt. i asked him if i could smoke on it with him and he said yea. so there is me and him sittin on the park bench smokin a blunt. i remembered think that the blunt tasted funny but i figured it was just the kind of cigar he used or whatever. so after we get done smokin he turns to me with a dead serious face and asks, "So, how is that dust treatin ya?" i fuckin lost it. he fuckin laced the blunt with dust and didnt tell me.

well needless to say i went completetly apeshit. i dont really recall what happened but my friend told me the next day i went into the A-Plus mini-mart up the street and went psychotic in the store, and then started running the streets running up and down cars. they took me to this girls house who we know and i spent the rest of the night sitting on her back deck throwing up and cursin everybody that came up to me. oh yea, i also would run after cars with a stick like some crazed lunatic. the only thing i remember was walking home at 3:30am and sleeping on my front steps.

i never ever smoked a blunt again that wasnt rolled in front of me. and i never have and never will touch dust since then

[jacky]

I always wanted to try PCP....but lived in an area where it is pretty rare I guess.

of course, I could have probably found some at some point, if I wouldve tried...

after trying ketamine around age 25, I didnt have as much interest in trying PCP, as I was in locating the occasional vial of ket....
then ketamine became controlled further, and my occasional supplier, quit taking advantage of spillover ratio...

then I met a wonderful girl, and later got married.

a year of DXM use/abuse....and my girlfriend was a little tired of the subject of the nmda antagonist type of drugs, and much more tired of me engaging in their use.

so when finally, along came a form of pharmaceutical grade PCP, the only form that I ever swore I would try if I had access, permission to venture was denied.

probably the best thing when I think about it.

so reading about PCP still holds my attention. so many horror storys, and occasionally, the type of experiences that people rave about.

with all the cannabis I smoked when I was younger, I am suprised I never got dusted weed. the only adulterated weed I bought, was 9 months of access to what we called "chocolate buddha thai"
which was a stash of weed sold by a nam vet, alaska fishermen, that traded goods to russians for kilos of this stank, brown, opium laced weed.
that stuff was strong enough that me and 2 other freinds hallucinated that we walked a block that we didnt, or, we really were in some mindwarp twist of reality.
the walls would breathe when I smoked that stuff, patterns would vibrate on wallpaper and carpets...or strobe...very strange.
when we ran out I was dope I was sick for a week, and didnt even realize why, my first opiate kick, and I didnt know I was dope sick, I thought I was going crazy. luckily an older junkie freind told me soon after why I had gone insane for a week.
maybe that weed had some PCP in there as well, I dont know, it was utter totally alien weed, never seen anything like it again. it had golden/brown/purple colors, smelled like chocolate.

I have a few freinds that got the unintended dose of PCP laced dope in the 80's....one guy got to a party after driving all day and night....he took two steps out of his truck, and his buddys handed him a joint and he took a few hits.
within minutes he couldnt walk, was salivating all over himself, and took hours to recuperate to the point where he could take care of himself.
seems like some people get absolutely devestated by the stuff.

[nycjrt]

Fontana California was thick with dust in the 70's. We used to get it on mint leaf or Sherman's. Sometimes the kids at school sold it in prerolled pinner joints for a buck each. Me and my phsyco friends smoked it all the time.
.
dust made a bit of a comeback here in ny/east coast in the early-mid 90s, i tried it once had an ok time, but i never wanted to do it again/push my luck- one drug i remember hearing a lot about as a kid during the 70s was STP - i had some druggie cousins into that shit, one got fucked up real bad- i always remember he had the STP motor oil sticker on his door, but my older brother old me what it really meant...i always associate it with california for some reason too- was it popular out there in the 70s? if so, what was it like- all i read from phikkal is it was a looooong trip, and could lead to some dark places...

[digby]

Both PCP and STP were very popular in California in both the 60's and the 70's. It could be kind of scary back then, because when a stranger offered someone else a hit off of a joint, a person could never be sure it was simply grass rather than PCP or STP or a few other things.

[30_Units]

Not accusatory at all, just clearing up any misconceptions-but stp is actually a drug known as DOM, 2,5-Dimethoxy-4-methylamphetamine, one of the psychedelic amphetamines,and is definitely more of a trip in the classical sense of the word.

Actually more dangerous than phencyclidine, because it's toxic at higher doses, and someone mistaking it for lsd or similar chemicals (which are relatively safe in doses well above what a typically considered recreational) and taking a massive overdose would be in for some serious medical problems.

[buc]

dust made a bit of a comeback here in ny/east coast in the early-mid 90s, i tried it once had an ok time, but i never wanted to do it again/push my luck- one drug i remember hearing a lot about as a kid during the 70s was STP - i had some druggie cousins into that shit, one got fucked up real bad- i always remember he had the STP motor oil sticker on his door, but my older brother old me what it really meant...i always associate it with california for some reason too- was it popular out there in the 70s? if so, what was it like- all i read from phikkal is it was a looooong trip, and could lead to some dark places...

STP.......I remember friends telling me they had fried on it but I missed it. It wasn't real common. Kinda drug you had to be in the right place at the right time. But speaking of dark places.......I did do jimson weed.......several times. In fact I got a nice momma plant growing just outside my front door.

[nullnull]

"stp is actually a drug known as DOM, 2,5-Dimethoxy-4-methylamphetamine, one of the psychedelic amphetamines"

thats right. i tried DOB a few times but i think lsd is way better if you wanna trip. DOx drugs
are very long lasting, up to 30hrs in higher dosages so that could be stressfull for one.
i'd still like to try pcp but its nonexistent where i live.

[buc]

"stp is actually a drug known as DOM, 2,5-Dimethoxy-4-methylamphetamine, one of the psychedelic amphetamines"

thats right. i tried DOB a few times but i think lsd is way better if you wanna trip. DOx drugs
are very long lasting, up to 30hrs in higher dosages so that could be stressfull for one.
i'd still like to try pcp but its nonexistent where i live.


STP stood for..........Serenity,Tranquility and Peace.

[losangeleslifer]

Only smoked dust once. Was real young and got real fucked up. Basically what we ever saw was *sherm*. Foul smelling and tasting phencyclidine liquid made in bathtubs from all kinds of foul chemicals. I smoked that shit about 4 times, either cigarettes (sherm stick, wet daddy) or joints (lovelies) dipped in that shit. A couple of enterprising guys I know would roll fat crack primos and dip those fuckers. Bad part about that is, you hit it so hard to get the coke, you get twice as fucked up from the wet. A couple of small hits are fine. But, anything after that, is just too much for me.

I attempted to sell that shit for a time only to grow tired of the smell. Even sealed up in a bottle and wrapped up in plastic, that shit still stunk. Getting that shit from point A to point B was a very arduos task. Even after taking it out of my pocket, my pants smelled of it. Thats kinda hard to hide from LE.

Whats crazy was seeing someone who is hooked on that shit. Occasionally, I see the folks that have smoked that shit everyday for years around town. Most still have that glazed over appearance, yellow eyes and they are merely shells of their former selves.

PCP is not very recreational for me overall.