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ChesterMcEnroe
11-04-2007, 01:40 PM
I took some OC last night. I started with 15 mgs and posted a forum on here freaking out because I was paranoid about OD'ing, only to find that later on, my peak was very mild and lasted about ten minutes. When I say mild, I mean like, I take 20 mgs of hydrocodone to get high, and this was like half of that kind of peak. I scratched off the time release. It was a yellow 40, and I rubbed it off with water until it was white. I took it orally. Should I snort it this time? If so, what would be a suitable dose to get a good nod going? Like I said, I usually take two lortab 10's to get off, so should I snort like the whole 20 or just start with 10?
Better dissapointed than dead man.
ChesterMcEnroe
11-04-2007, 01:49 PM
I agree, but man that pill cost me 25 dollars! A ripoff I know, but I couldn't find any Tabs. Are you saying that those doses are too high even for someone who takes 20 mgs of hydrocodone at a time?
eerased
11-04-2007, 01:56 PM
If it only takes you 20mg of hydro to get high (you lucky dog) then a 40 oxy should do you right..
Personally I would sniff it. My friend said that she sniffs a 40 and has a nice buzz. She also sometimes crushes it all up into powder and puts it in a shot glass with water and does it like a shot she says it hits FAST it doesnt last hours or anything but she looked like she was flying for at least an hour. :D
You may not have done enough to start. But it is better to do a little cuz you can always add but you cannot take back. Sometimes when doing oxy it's a good idea to eat something carb like chips or a glass of milk so your tummy doesnt get spinny.
I took some OC last night. I started with 15 mgs and posted a forum on here freaking out because I was paranoid about OD'ing, only to find that later on, my peak was very mild and lasted about ten minutes. When I say mild, I mean like, I take 20 mgs of hydrocodone to get high, and this was like half of that kind of peak. I scratched off the time release. It was a yellow 40, and I rubbed it off with water until it was white. I took it orally. Should I snort it this time? If so, what would be a suitable dose to get a good nod going? Like I said, I usually take two lortab 10's to get off, so should I snort like the whole 20 or just start with 10?
ChesterMcEnroe
11-04-2007, 02:01 PM
But damn, I don't have a whole 40 anymore. I took 20 of it last night. Do you think 20 mgs will do the trick? Isn't Oxycodone stronger than hydrocodone? If I take 20 mgs of hydro, shouldn't 20 mgs of Oxy be straight?
Floating
11-04-2007, 05:04 PM
SWIM's first experience with oxy was 40 mg intranasal, at 142 lbs. If you did 20 SWIM is nearly positive you will be ok, just do not mix with it or drink.
tptptp
11-04-2007, 05:07 PM
If you have oxycontin you should be snorting it i thought your last post was about oxycontin. Yes oxycodone is stronger than hydro. oxycodone is the same thing as in oxycontin except no apap like percocet. You can snort/inject oxycontin though whereas with percocet its unhealthy at best and injecting i believe very hazardous. I dunno about snorting perc's but snorting apap isn't healthy that's for sure.
Yes snorting oxycontin is much better than eating them as far as getting high eating OC is wasteful, but be careful I don't remember the numbers but I believe snorting is about 2X as strong as oral, someone correct me.
Dr. Oxy
11-04-2007, 06:59 PM
But damn, I don't have a whole 40 anymore. I took 20 of it last night. Do you think 20 mgs will do the trick? Isn't Oxycodone stronger than hydrocodone? If I take 20 mgs of hydro, shouldn't 20 mgs of Oxy be straight?
You know what, everyone here says that oxycodone is stronger than hydrocodone, but the leading opinions in the medical field are that for the most part you get the same bang for your buck from both substances. Oxycodone was just a derived molecule and heavily marketed by Purdue. The first time I tried oxy, I took 20mg and felt a mild buzz but nothing amazing. 20mg of Hydro would get me much better. Everybody is going to chime on here and say i'm wrong and that oxy is stronger, but theres no scientific basis for that statement. If the hydro works better for you, then buy them, cheaper and a better high. Opiods are all subjective at the end of the day. Everybody here has a different favorite. The dose matters, like how much of it you take, but other than that try them all and stick with the one you like best.
kyuss
11-04-2007, 08:50 PM
merged threads
bluide*devil
11-05-2007, 01:33 AM
Chester,
supposedly, Oxycodone (the opiate/opioid in Percocet, Oxycontin, etc.) is 1.5 times stronger than Hydrocodone (Vicodin, Lortab, etc.) on a mg-for-mg basis.
20mg of Oxycodone is roughly equal to 30mg Hydro (for relieving pain).
personally, i enjoy eating OCs better than snorting/sniffing them. the high lasts longer (and better i think), and i can't stand the nasty OC drip after snorting.
if you swallow them, chew them up REAL good with your front teeth and then swallow. this will defeat the time-release mechanism. the color on the outside of the pill is NOT a time-release coating. most people just put the pill in their mouth and suck off the coating, then do whatever they are going to do with it. but if you are just eating the pill, just chew it up first, no need to remove the coating.
realistically, you are not going to 'OD' (i.e. 'die') from an OC20, OC40, and probably not even an OC80. now don't go trying an OC80 now that i've said that. it would probably be VERY uncomfortable (puking, sweating, etc.) but you would not die. at your tolerance, i think an OC40 would probably get you SKY high.
but you want to be careful. if you keep taking OC (or any opiate) for any length of time, your tolerance will keep climbing, not to mention w/d symptoms if you stop taking it. trust me, the lovely feeling you feel when you first start taking OC does not last forever. OC does not even get me high any more. i 'feel' something, but not 'high' like when i first started taking it. if you want to keep the 'magic' alive, try to keep it to once a week or less. if you notice your tolerance climbing, it's time to take a break. i wish i did... ;)
JayTrizzle
11-05-2007, 02:29 AM
i honestly think it's a matter of personal preferance. I do not enjoy taking oxy orally at all. It makes me extremely sick, and thats eating 20mg. I can kill an 80 per night now every day in the nose, so it's not a tolerance deal. Don't know why, but that's what always happens to me. I get much higher much quicker snorting. You know what the odd thing is? I agree with the guy about the hydros. I've been doing oxy almost exclusively to maintin lately, not even getting all that high anymore. I had a freidn drop by with 5 7.5/500 hydros which i promptly ate all of, and I got WAAAAAY high, NODDED off of hydrocodone when 40mg of oxy doesn't phase me anymore. I haven't done hydrocodone since my knee surgery, the reason I swtiched to abusing oxy was because I wasn't getting high on the hydros anymore, now aftetr almost a year of being clean from hydro, it rocks me, no shit. Is anyone else like that, too, because honestly, i thought hydrocodone was a morphine deravitive or a codeine deravitive, and I have to snort about 30mg of morphine to nod and get euphoria, anything lower than that just gets me a real heavy body load and eating is worthless. I don't understand it, but I can tell you that you should snort that 20mg you'll be MUCH happier. THat's always been the case with me, to each his own though.
RxQueen
11-05-2007, 08:07 AM
if you swallow them, chew them up REAL good with your front teeth and then swallow. this will defeat the time-release mechanism. the color on the outside of the pill is NOT a time-release coating. most people just put the pill in their mouth and suck off the coating, then do whatever they are going to do with it. but if you are just eating the pill, just chew it up first, no need to remove the coating.
good call, bluide... exactly what i was gonna say.
chester, the 20mg you took was still time-released... probably why you didn't feel any real "peak." you gotta crush up the pill before you take it to break the time release even a little. i never could stand to chew pills up much, so i always wrapped the powder in a small piece of tissue and swallowed that (parachuting it). or you could snort it... the choice is yours. hope you enjoy the rest of that pill!
roxi*stardust
11-05-2007, 08:21 AM
I agree, but man that pill cost me 25 dollars! A ripoff I know, but I couldn't find any Tabs. Are you saying that those doses are too high even for someone who takes 20 mgs of hydrocodone at a time?
good call, bluide... exactly what i was gonna say.
chester, the 20mg you took was still time-released... probably why you didn't feel any real "peak." you gotta crush up the pill before you take it to break the time release even a little. i never could stand to chew pills up much, so i always wrapped the powder in a small piece of tissue and swallowed that (parachuting it). or you could snort it... the choice is yours. hope you enjoy the rest of that pill!
Queen is right. You have to crush and/or chew the OxyContin to defeat the time release. And if you had a football shaped generic OC then you really have to crush them into a very fine powder because they turn to gel when the come in contact with water. If it is a generic, don't even waste your time snorting it because it won't work. Tell us what your pill looked like.
krinkov
11-06-2007, 05:57 PM
Snorting is the way to go. Just remember that if it's not a true Purdue brand or Watson Oxy (Purdue say "OC" on one side and will have a "40 on the other. The Watson will say "ABG" on one side) it will gel in your nose. It will feel like a big goober in the back of your throat. Also, if you've never snorted them before, it will burn a bit, but do it enough and you will learn to love it. If it's an Endo brand, it may have a cayenne pepper mix in it to stop people from snorting them. It will just burn a bit more for a while. No big deal. If you have any questions on snorting, let us know what type of pill you have and we can tell you the best method for doing it.
ETA: 20mg nasal should do you good. 40 mg would have been better, but you don't want that tolerance getting up there too quick.
Dr. Oxy
11-06-2007, 06:44 PM
cayenne pepper mix in it to stop people from snorting them. .
Interesting, those little fuckers, what if I get acid reflux disease from swallowing them as directed? ;) Can I sue?
Interesting, those little fuckers, what if I get acid reflux disease from swallowing them as directed? ;) Can I sue?
Sure you can sue bro,but I think a packet of Tumms(sic) would be cheaper and much better for your acid.
Dr. Oxy
11-06-2007, 07:30 PM
Sir I prefer freshly squeezed breast milk to quench the fires burning down below ;)
syn2600
11-12-2007, 11:39 AM
Bro 40mg insulfated, imo, is too much. Why not crush it all up into 2 20mg(approx.) lines and just start small, keep doing more untill you feel it.
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