Ingestion Question

[Egret Narcosa]

I've been using Kratom for around six months now, specifically the "Super Powder" ordered from the iamshaman shop that is supposed to be active at two grams. I would pour three to four grams into a coffee maker to strain the alkaloids and make tea out of it, and I would always get a moderate effect.

Just recently, iamshaman started offering a Kratom 15x extract of pure mitragyna supposebly active at 1 gram, so I ordered that instead of the powdered leaf.

However, after spoonfeeding myself around 2 grams I noticed that I barely felt the opiate effect. It puzzled me because I was under the impression that this would relatively match the effect of the alkaloids in the 4 grams of leaf. I even mixed it in with some tea leaves and strained it into a coffee pot with water, and felt nothing more than a slight pang of the delicious warmth of opium-derived drugs.

I'm sure it's not a tolerance issue, and iamshaman appears to be a respectable source, so i'm going to rule out the fake kratom scare.

I've been trying to avoid smoking it because of the crude taste and smell, and I live with my family and would like to avoid detection if all possible.

I was just wondering if swallowing the 15x powder is the wrong way to go about it, or is there any other method I should try?

[shainghi]

hello ive delt with IAS for a while, first i started off with the super powder, then tried the 15x ,the 15x is horrible ripoff .the best dealer i have found is kratom dragon they give you kratom that is way better than IAS stuff for only 14.00 dollars an oz,its cheaper in bulk.but in my experiences 15x is garbage.
I've been using Kratom for around six months now, specifically the "Super Powder" ordered from the iamshaman shop that is supposed to be active at two grams. I would pour three to four grams into a coffee maker to strain the alkaloids and make tea out of it, and I would always get a moderate effect.

Just recently, iamshaman started offering a Kratom 15x extract of pure mitragyna supposebly active at 1 gram, so I ordered that instead of the powdered leaf.

However, after spoonfeeding myself around 2 grams I noticed that I barely felt the opiate effect. It puzzled me because I was under the impression that this would relatively match the effect of the alkaloids in the 4 grams of leaf. I even mixed it in with some tea leaves and strained it into a coffee pot with water, and felt nothing more than a slight pang of the delicious warmth of opium-derived drugs.

I'm sure it's not a tolerance issue, and iamshaman appears to be a respectable source, so i'm going to rule out the fake kratom scare.

I've been trying to avoid smoking it because of the crude taste and smell, and I live with my family and would like to avoid detection if all possible.

I was just wondering if swallowing the 15x powder is the wrong way to go about it, or is there any other method I should try?

[duke_nemmerle]

I don't know about the extracts. Most reports I've read seem to indicate that even the regular stuff is just as effective. I think the extracts get more alkaloid, but not so much of THE alkaloid. I've found a lot of people who, like myself, just don't believe that the extracts are much more potent

[steelheadwayne]

I to got some of the 15X and it wasn't all that great for euphria. Now i heard they made some new 15X thats supposed to have that covered but i think only PAH sells it. Mind you they supply ALL the retailers with kratom in general.
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[sage99]

I think the only good thing about the extract is that it is easier to take. I'm to lazy to make any teas or such, I just eat it straight and chase it with hot water. But the normal stuff is nasty!!! While the extract is much finer powder so its no problem is swallow.... and for me thats worth the extra cash!