65,000 TABLETS CONFISCATED

[rex24u]

This just happened the other day in the county I live in.

They say these people were photoshopping the scrips and changing the doctors phone number to one of their own people who was acting like the doctor


http://www.floridatoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071024/NEWS01/710240326/1011/NEWS0301&template=news0301

Here is the article:


Major drug bust nets 11 arrestsPolice seize $1M in oxycodone, say ring ran 'like a business'

BY SUSANNE CERVENKA
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Suspects in custody
Suspects arrested in Tuesday's drug bust, with name, age, town and charge: Dione Lylo, 36, Titusville, conspiracy to traffic in oxycodone over 28 grams
Danin Lylo, 30, Titusville, conspiracy to traffic oxycodone over 4 grams but less than 14 grams
Dennis Lylo, 43, Titusville, conspiracy to traffic oxycodone over 28 grams
Denise Whitt, 43, Mims, conspiracy to traffic oxycodone over 28 grams
Lisa Green, 38, Mims, conspiracy to traffic oxycodone over 28 grams
William Wheeler, 43, Mims, conspiracy to traffic oxycodone over 28 grams
Aneatra Pogar, 32, Port St. John, conspiracy to traffic oxycodone over 28 grams
Robert Lee, 26, Titusville, conspiracy to traffic oxycodone over 28 grams
Donald Allen, 38, Mims, conspiracy to traffic oxycodone over 28 grams
Tara Greenlay, 32, Mims, conspiracy to traffic oxycodone over 4 grams but less than 14 grams
Stacy Asbury, 35, Mims, conspiracy to purchase
What is oxycodone?
Oxycodone is a synthetic type of heroin, Titusville police detectives say. The prescription narcotic is legitimately taken for pain relief, but is often abused as a recreational drug. TITUSVILLE - Authorities broke up an alleged prescription drug ring Tuesday that officials described as one of the largest and most sophisticated ever seen in Central Florida.
Eleven people were arrested in connection with the trafficking of oxycodone, a prescription narcotic legitimately taken for pain relief but often abused as a recreational drug.
Detectives said they linked nearly 65,000 tablets to the ring, an amount that weighs 64 pounds and has a street value of just under $1 million.
The ring started its operations out of Brevard County but expanded to include five other counties, police said.
"They were moving so much product, they ran it like a business," Titusville Police Sgt. Matt Demmon said.
Ten men and women from Titusville, Mims and Port St. John were charged with conspiracy to traffic oxycodone. Because of the amount of drugs they were accused of selling, most face a mandatory minimum of 25 years in prison. Another Mims man faces a conspiracy to purchase oxycodone charge.
Titusville police detectives identified Dione Lylo, 36, as the alleged leader of the ring. Lylo has a business license for Exceptional Management Concepts LLC, and some of suspected ring members claimed to be employees, but detectives found no evidence that the company had any customers, said Detective Carolina Johnson, a Titusville police officer assigned to the DEA Task Force.
The operation apparently operated out of an unmarked office space on Garden Street and billed itself as a consulting firm that helped companies find new employees.
Johnson said the ring used a legitimate prescription as a model to design fake prescription forms using computer software. The fake form was printed onto prescription paper purchased on the Internet.
Members of the group then would write out a prescription and forge doctors' signatures, Johnson said.
But instead of listing the phone number of the doctor's office on the form for pharmacists to check, the fake prescriptions included numbers to pre-paid cellular phones, police said.
When pharmacies called to question the prescriptions, ring members allegedly would answer the phone as the doctors' offices and confirm the person was a patient.
Sometimes members would say they needed to "check their charts" and call back later, Johnson said.
Prescriptions were filled first in Brevard County, but the group later spread to Orange, Volusia, Seminole, Alachua and Osceola counties.
In all, the group used eight doctors names and frequented more than 50 different pharmacy locations, often seeking out "Mom and Pop" stores that wouldn't have linking computers systems, according to Johnson and Titusville Detective Shaun Anderson.
During the height of activity, members were going to two pharmacies a day to fill prescriptions for 120 to 150 tablets, Anderson said.
Legitimate prescriptions are usually for about 30 tablets, however that number can vary depending on the doctor and the severity of the patient's ailment, he said.
Titusville Police began the six-month investigation after receiving complaints from two local doctors, and soon after began working with Brevard County Sheriff's office, the Drug Enforcement Administration and the Florida Office of Statewide Prosecution in Orlando.
"You couldn't ask for better cooperation," Demmon said.
Contact Cervenka at 360-1018 or scervenka@floridatoday.com (scervenka@floridatoday.com).

[xecutrex]

The detective says "oxycodone is a synthetic type of heroin"...some detective.

[Duckfeet]

Good post, bummer about the bust... The details were different, but this is actually a really old dodge. I was in prison with a guy, and his girlfriend hooked up with another guy who just got out, and knew how to write scripts pretty good, and they somehow copy the scripts, and change the phone number to one they could sit at...this was done before cell phones, but same theory. I forget how they finally nailed'em, but they were doing it for dilaudids...oxys weren't even invented yet...

They have all kinds of ways now to stop this, from perscriptions in triplicate, to not being able to call in Sched II's, to just plain old suspicious druggists...but the one thing that was true way back in my day, is still true today: the *real* bummer of anything to do with drugstores, from busting scripts, to drugstore burglaries, my thing, is that it gets too *good* to you, and you rarely quit until you get busted...greed kicks in, and again, they're hip to most of these scams, and if probably someone snitched, and the cops just don't want to front him off...fascinating, and a bit of a junky fantasy, too....I once just made a photocopy of a dilaudid script...but I had to get rid of it, as it's all I could think of....

[Nate]

The detective says "oxycodone is a synthetic type of heroin"...some detective.

ffs will people ever fucking learn. Look we even have a cop thinking oxycodone its synthetic heroin. I swear to god the next person irl that says that line i will punch. Idiots.

[Hiram]

A detective is a synthetic type of Sus excrementum

[xecutrex]

Or a synthetic type of dope

[bluide*devil]

my pain clinic doctor just prints out a 'prescription' on a piece of computer paper and gives it to me. and my pharmacy took it just like any other prescription. it wasn't on a special triplicate paper or anything. they didn't seem to give it a second thought when i gave it to them. and it was for a LOT of Sched II's.

of course i thought 'why don't i just photocopy this 300 times, or change the dates/quantities in Photoshop, etc. ' but i already know where that leads... :rolleyes:

[drugsaregood]

"Conspiracy to purchase oxycodone." What a scary ass charge...

POST #666. YAY!

[Duckfeet]

Yeah, if I understand right, the type of perscription, and how they are presented, and all this stuff is mostly *state* law...as it should be....unfortunately, more and more in last fifty years the *feds* have been sticking their noses where they don't belong...and that is why the DEA is on docs, which has fucked everything up, ever since they started closing down the clinics in Shreveport last century, when they were actually treating addicts like people with a medical condition...and just recently, when Calif passed law saying marijunana was o.k. for medical purposes, feds again stepped in...and this is exactly what our founding fathers were afraid of, and why we have to vote for good states rights libertarian like Ron Paul... whoops, going on rant :-)


my pain clinic doctor just prints out a 'prescription' on a piece of computer paper and gives it to me. and my pharmacy took it just like any other prescription. it wasn't on a special triplicate paper or anything. they didn't seem to give it a second thought when i gave it to them. and it was for a LOT of Sched II's.

of course i thought 'why don't i just photocopy this 300 times, or change the dates/quantities in Photoshop, etc. ' but i already know where that leads... :rolleyes:

[LorTabitha]

It must have really recently changed where I'm at because even though I always had to get an *original* script for OCs every month, it wasn't anything special as far as paper, etc. As of this month, the script is written on a special paper, in triplicate, with numbers spelled out as well as in number format. My hydros, etc. can still be called in as usual, so it's just oxys here.

[xecutrex]

I wonder where the police get there estimate for 1mil$, 65000x10$ a pill is 650000 and 10$ is a bit up there price wise for perc 10's if thats even what they had.

Damn I just noticed 3 of the guys arrested were all brothers, poor parents

[betmylife]

they got busted 30 min from where I live, they were filling scripts in my town....guess that means prices are going up......fuck.

[chopstix]

The detective says "oxycodone is a synthetic type of heroin"...some detective.

I don't understand why people have issue with this comparison, it's really not that far from accurate, and in the eyes of the masses, the minor differences are virtually irrelevant. Heroin has a bad rap, it also has an evil name, equating oxy with heroin is.. OMG REALITY!!!! RUN!!!!!

Heroin and Oxy aren't that different (unless you live in California where the Oxy is cheap and the heroin is shit). It's like comparing gooey hydro bud to some grade B shake, same drug.. Big Fucking Deal. It's like the difference between Gordons and Ketel One in price and then going home and getting loaded like everyone else.

Honestly, after shooting like ten keys of instant coffee over my 20 year dope career, I wish it was all as smooth as roxicodone AND FUCKING LEGAL, I would be less broke, have more (live) friends and probably have much better looking arms, although I wouldn't have the same stories and the novelty would have probably worn off by now..

[xecutrex]

I don't understand why people have issue with this comparison, it's really not that far from accurate, and in the eyes of the masses, the minor differences are virtually irrelevant. Heroin has a bad rap, it also has an evil name, equating oxy with heroin is.. OMG REALITY!!!! RUN!!!!!

Heroin and Oxy aren't that different (unless you live in California where the Oxy is cheap and the heroin is shit). It's like comparing gooey hydro bud to some grade B shake, same drug.. Big Fucking Deal. It's like the difference between Gordons and Ketel One in price and then going home and getting loaded like everyone else.

Honestly, after shooting like ten keys of instant coffee over my 20 year dope career, I wish it was all as smooth as roxicodone AND FUCKING LEGAL, I would be less broke, have more (live) friends and probably have much better looking arms, although I wouldn't have the same stories and the novelty would have probably worn off by now..

The only issue I have is calling a drug synthetic heroin when it isnt, your right they may not differ much in effects but its certainly not "synthetic heroin".

[Frank Zito]

I don't understand why people have issue with this comparison, it's really not that far from accurate, and in the eyes of the masses, the minor differences are virtually irrelevant. Heroin has a bad rap, it also has an evil name, equating oxy with heroin is.. OMG REALITY!!!! RUN!!!!!

Heroin and Oxy aren't that different (unless you live in California where the Oxy is cheap and the heroin is shit). It's like comparing gooey hydro bud to some grade B shake, same drug.. Big Fucking Deal. It's like the difference between Gordons and Ketel One in price and then going home and getting loaded like everyone else.

Honestly, after shooting like ten keys of instant coffee over my 20 year dope career, I wish it was all as smooth as roxicodone AND FUCKING LEGAL, I would be less broke, have more (live) friends and probably have much better looking arms, although I wouldn't have the same stories and the novelty would have probably worn off by now..

The pen is mightier than the sword...it's pretty dangerous when mass media gets to state opinion as fact and toss around vagueries and not so true half truths. Just another occurance in THE WAR ON DRUGS to create hysteria in the minds of the un-educated masses perpetrated by the prohibitionist agenda. "Man, If Oxy-Contin is HEROIN I think I'll call my state reps. and see what we can't do to ban that stuff since it kills kids and little Billy can buy it from gumball machines outside of the neighborhood pharmacy and spike little Sarah's pixie stix so that she becomes an immoral whore after they snort a couple of lines...maybe we should ban pixie stix too..." Could happen. Just because your branch ain't gettin' shook don't mean you shouldn't chase George away from the cherry tree. And, yes...it starts there...at little mundane things like cops getting on the news and giving inaccurate information to 50,000 nightly veiwers.

[Frank Zito]

That was not directed at you CHOPSTIX...your post just gave me an occasion to write about something that seemed worth saying.

[jab]

I used to live in Titusville, Cocoa, and Melbourne (all right around this area) and I know the area and it's doctors.. I garuntee you one thing.. the 65,000 number was COMPLETELY pulled out of someones ass!! They probably did some BS math and came up with a number that makes headlines.. fukin tools.

I could tell you some crazy stories about the local police there.. let's just say they are a bit corrupt. Boy could I tell you some stories.. but I must digress as it would give away too much about me. But to give you an idea how bad it is, I did almost 5 months there on a capital charge that I had nothig to do with.. After 5 months they came in to my cell and said "oh, sorry, we got the guys who did it, you can go now".

Take this article with a grain of salt. I doubt there enough doctors and pharms in that area for them to even remotely pull of 65K pills!!

Ugh! The space coast.

[reddragon3668]

That's exactly what I was thinking... with oxycontin being so tightly regulated now, I just have a hard time believing they were able to get 65k pills before getting caught. I guess it could happen, but these days?? Hmm...



Take this article with a grain of salt. I doubt there enough doctors and pharms in that area for them to even remotely pull of 65K pills!!

Ugh! The space coast.

[Slippin|Fallen]

all i gotta say is....... wow!

[Black_Pony]

God these fucken idiot cops! They just want to make it sound BAD. If they didn;t say that some people might say 'Wow those cops ruined those peoples lives just for trying to get scripts the medical community wont provide them.'

Instead they want people to think, "wow I'm glad those cops got that insideous synthetic heroin off the streets.'

Assholes.

The detective says "oxycodone is a synthetic type of heroin"...some detective.

[Black_Pony]

LOL! Hahahahahah. No shit, huh. Fucken coffee...


Honestly, after shooting like ten keys of instant coffee over my 20 year dope career, I wish it was all as smooth as roxicodone AND FUCKING LEGAL

[Nate]

Where theres a will theres a way....lol obviously us junkys got the will. Seems with proper planning anything can be possible. They keep uping the security that meds dont get in the wrong hands, but no matter how difficult it gets....there is still ways.

[Inspektahdek]

wow that's nuts, I have a friend in Florida who was doing the same thing a while back but it was way more low key and he didn't have 65,000, more like several hundred, but damn that sucks, FL is one of the places I visit when I come to the states, I have family there as well, and OCs were always prevalent, this sucks



<------------ yay- I'm never looking back guys! Whee!

[JonnyMohawk]

My problem with them calling it 'synthetic heroin' is not that I believe they are so different because I do not, Its that they are trying to demonize the drugs, and like everyone else said make it seem like they are doing good as opposed to screwing people over out of the medication doctors wont prescribe them.

Cops are plain fucking assholes.


Id stay and talk more but Im gonna go do some of my synthetic heroin.
Real h gots nothing on me.

[chopstix]

That was not directed at you CHOPSTIX...your post just gave me an occasion to write about something that seemed worth saying.

No worries brother.

The pen is mightier than the sword...it's pretty dangerous when mass media gets to state opinion as fact and toss around vagueries and not so true half truths. Just another occurance in THE WAR ON DRUGS to create hysteria in the minds of the un-educated masses perpetrated by the prohibitionist agenda. "Man, If Oxy-Contin is HEROIN I think I'll call my state reps. and see what we can't do to ban that stuff since it kills kids and little Billy can buy it from gumball machines outside of the neighborhood pharmacy and spike little Sarah's pixie stix so that she becomes an immoral whore after they snort a couple of lines...maybe we should ban pixie stix too..." Could happen. Just because your branch ain't gettin' shook don't mean you shouldn't chase George away from the cherry tree. And, yes...it starts there...at little mundane things like cops getting on the news and giving inaccurate information to 50,000 nightly veiwers.

The media are a bunch of blood thirsty sensationalist twits who can't take the time to back up there shit or educate themselves on a topic because they're under so much pressure to poop another story out yesterday. Most of them are a bunch of clowns and most people exercising a three digit IQ immediately realize that they're witnessing inflated, sensationalized, manipulative bullshit no matter what the subject is; Oxycontin diversion (OMG HEROIN!!), the current state of the coming wrath of Billary II, Lindsey Lohan kicked Paris Hilton in the nuts again, then did a fatty rip on National TV and is back in treatment again, blahblahblah RATINGS!! blahblahblah; they do it with everything, all they care about is ratings and as long as it's remotely close to fact, that's all they give a shit about. I think you have to be on ADD meds to pay attention to the noise and I think most people that watch that shit on a regular basis are probably too numb and lack the attention span to make it to the phone and make the call.

Not to discourage speaking up and out to your local reps but in this case I think it's just more inflated bullshit and that calling Oxy "synthetic heroin" isn't that far from the truth, but merely implying a <OMG>HEROIN</OMG> bust gets ratings and that's what they want, now everyone knows about the Pepsi sale at Wallmart.

Most people that know anything about Oxy, Doctors and patients included, know that it's very similar in action to Morphine and Heroin..

I personally stopped paying attention to the mainstream TV and commercial radio a long time ago. It just depresses me and most of it is just sensationalist crap. If I can't turn on something educational then I'll surf the web or do something else and most of the people in this area are the same way..

[rex24u]

I used to live in Titusville, Cocoa, and Melbourne (all right around this area) and I know the area and it's doctors.. I garuntee you one thing.. the 65,000 number was COMPLETELY pulled out of someones ass!! They probably did some BS math and came up with a number that makes headlines.. fukin tools.

I could tell you some crazy stories about the local police there.. let's just say they are a bit corrupt. Boy could I tell you some stories.. but I must digress as it would give away too much about me. But to give you an idea how bad it is, I did almost 5 months there on a capital charge that I had nothig to do with.. After 5 months they came in to my cell and said "oh, sorry, we got the guys who did it, you can go now".

Take this article with a grain of salt. I doubt there enough doctors and pharms in that area for them to even remotely pull of 65K pills!!

Ugh! The space coast.


I still live here and I know there are enough docs and pharms in this area but I agree with you that 65,000 is a lot of pills and I believe that that number is hyped up.

But this are is really crooked as far as the police AND the doctors go. There are so many docs around here that will just write you a scrip if you have the right amount of money.

[Levity]

Fuck!
They found my stash!

[Mcdom]

God these fucken idiot cops! They just want to make it sound BAD. If they didn;t say that some people might say 'Wow those cops ruined those peoples lives just for trying to get scripts the medical community wont provide them.'

Instead they want people to think, "wow I'm glad those cops got that insideous synthetic heroin off the streets.'

Assholes.

Yes - for once I would love to see a story of this nature presented to the public from this angle. I wish I had some knowledge of where to start looking for a publisher who would dare to print something like that ... I could write it, but it would likely never reach the reading public.

Maybe I should write something anyway so I have it ready when I just happen upon a publisher (just joking).

BTW - in my local area the nitwit police and anti-drug groups refer to OC as hillbilly heroin.

[Black_Pony]

That reminds me of Indy's junkie jerry seinfeld:

lol @ junkie jerry seinfeld. I can just imagine him "So WHATS the deal with HILLBILLY HEROIN? I mean it's not for HILLBILLIES, and it's NOT HEROIN!, so why do we call it HILLBILLY HEROIN?"

Funny shit. In all seriousness, i would love to read journalism with your slant on it (instead of the medias sensationalized bullshit). Maybe you could write an article and the owners could post it on this site? Maybe TP could start a news section on stopdrugprohibition with you as a regular columnist? I'm dead serious.

Yes - for once I would love to see a story of this nature presented to the public from this angle. I wish I had some knowledge of where to start looking for a publisher who would dare to print something like that ... I could write it, but it would likely never reach the reading public.

Maybe I should write something anyway so I have it ready when I just happen upon a publisher (just joking).

BTW - in my local area the nitwit police and anti-drug groups refer to OC as hillbilly heroin.

[SHELLEY]

brevard county- is that cocoa beach?
fuckin' nuts

i luv florida hah

[krinkov]

Yeah, if I understand right, the type of perscription, and how they are presented, and all this stuff is mostly *state* law...as it should be....unfortunately, more and more in last fifty years the *feds* have been sticking their noses where they don't belong...and that is why the DEA is on docs, which has fucked everything up, ever since they started closing down the clinics in Shreveport last century, when they were actually treating addicts like people with a medical condition...and just recently, when Calif passed law saying marijunana was o.k. for medical purposes, feds again stepped in...and this is exactly what our founding fathers were afraid of, and why we have to vote for good states rights libertarian like Ron Paul... whoops, going on rant :-)

You are my new best friend. Ron Paul is a great man, but I really doubt he will get the GOP vote. :(

[Duckfeet]

Haha: I think he can win...get a little momentum going, and the Internet is how he's getting his funding, in general...me and TP sent him fifty bucks a piece...yah gotta believe, man. The incumbents in both Republican and Democratic party don't want this guy to take off: the repulcians because they say he'll split the vote, the democrats because he actually says, and votes, the way the wish they had the courage to...
Ron Paul is the type of the guy the founding fathers hoped would still be in office, but he's one of a kind. We are so used to dishonesty in politicians we think it has to be that way...

He reminds me of John F. Kennedy, who at one time told the truth and inspired people, and the new technolgy (television) accomplished the unthinkable...the same could happen again with RP

You are my new best friend. Ron Paul is a great man, but I really doubt he will get the GOP vote. :(

[tasteuvheaven]

and to think, me and hubby just moved here and cant find anything or uhm, i cant find a pain managment doc, they all suck~ what we all could do with what they took...