to those who....

[Slippin|Fallen]

to those of you who make 'how to' posts. if your going to make them, at least put in some effort. i just got done looking at 'frank zitos' how to bang un-bang-able oxys or whatever it was. even though it was pointed out there are 15 other threads saying almost the same thing, and his wasnt the safest way of doing so, where was the effort?

crush pill into a fine powder
put 1cc water into spoon
let water boil
wit the quickness drop in powder and draw up
enjoy.....

wtf????????? its that easy? thats all you have to do? no licking off the coating<sp?>? crush the pill with what? your hand? a quarter? (i know that parts kinda obvious) how fine is the powder? can there be little chunks?
1 cc is enough for a whole pill? if the water is boiling wont some be evaporated? so i just put a lighter under the teaspoon and let the water bubbles then dump the powder on?

anyway you get the point I HOPE. no frank im not at all bashing you! this is for anyone who makes how to posts. i know some of you put some effort into it, and some made a little more effort adding pics.


try to setup a guideline. if you can because it helps ALOT, trust me, to someone who doesnt know what their doing. some of you are used to doing it, so you may know short cuts, or skip something as easy as wash/lick the coating off the pill. i know the best way to do something is to have someone who knows what their doing prepare it, and do it for you.

some people dont know anyone, or cant ask people. what ever the reason is they need to do this themselves. so all im asking is take the time to produce a half decent post, 'in detail' or simply dont post it. thanks for reading. hope some of you will actually take the time and really do this vs posting something that someone naive, or whatever the correct word for them would be, hurts themselves.:cool:

[bronyraur]

You bring up a good point, SF.

While there technically isn't a "correct" way to shoot pills (as that's not what they're meant for), if someone is going to write up, it should be VERY detailed and use as many safeguards as possible (like strongly urging to use wheel filters, new needle every time, prep the injection site, etc.).

[nick]

These are all good points,but more specifically,I think this method is a lot more dangerous than others.

I'm a half wit and I wouldn't try it.

[Slippin|Fallen]

i know pills arent for shooting, and its not the brightest thing to do. is shooting/snorting H though? i understand the medical h (whatever its called) they make is obviously good for shooting. this is for all the threads on how to's though. whether its simply one of the ways to break up a oc 80 or the g-165(thats the orangey one i think) or the 93 33 football. what is the best way you know of to do it. or how to prep it for a shot.

anything though... shooting, snorting, eating, drinking(like pod tea, or the CWE into your coffee whatever...) anal raping, H, OC's, Dillies, Coke, Xanex etc...


just food for thought. whatever that saying is. i know i would like to know the proper way to do things. obviously its always going to be said, NOT TO DO IT because it can and might FUCK YOU UP. at least if they are going to do it though, they are going to know hopefully one of many proper ways, techniques so they hopefully DONT fuck themselves up.

[Frank Zito]

Sorry about the post...I don't think that you're bashing me or anything...it's cool.

[Frank Zito]

If a mod would delete that post...It'd be cool.

[Duckfeet]

Good attitude, FrankZ...and I've gotten in trouble myself a little for showing how to fix perks, so you're not the only one...I didn't have much of a "harm reduction" attitude when I first got on here, but I'm learning...and I kind of agree with you, that thread had served it's purpose, and it's gone gone gone...

[I-Nod]

Sorry about the post...I don't think that you're bashing me or anything...it's cool.

You sound like a pretty cool dude, Frank! Nice to meet ya and Welcome to the board!! Never got to properly welcome ya :D



Also some good points S/F. And you're right... once you are so used to doing a certain 'ritual' day in and day out, it's hard to think of everything. Gotta love the "How To" threads though. Learned a lot these past few years!! :D

[drugsaregood]

I think it's great people are wanting to contribute, however they must also keep in mind the harm reduction aspect. People are going to try crazy shit eitherway, showing them the proper way, or less risky way is the way to go. I think as far as Frank's post goes, he was more trying to share his method, and that it is indeed possible. I don't blame him at all or think negatively about it, we just need to remember that some people read shit on the internets and do it without thinking fully, or follow instructions 100%. Granted it's their problem, but there's no reason for us to unnecessarily contribute to the potential problems that could arise.

[LorTabitha]

I had an English teacher in high school who was trying to teach us to be thorough and write as though the reader has NO knowledge of the subject at hand. She would ask us to give her directions to do simple things and she would follow them, right in front of us, to the letter. If we left something out of the directions, so did she in her actions. It really makes you stop and think!!! Break all directions down to the common denominator, which is a newbie reading your post and wanting to try whatever you're writing about. Better to write too much than too little...

[Duckfeet]

Everybody can't teach...anybody's who's ever thought: "hell, I know how to use my computer, I'll teach my friend how to use his computer", should know this...it's an easy way to loose a friend, IMO...

But anyway, we often forget the obvious: you gotta peel...use the "4's" not the "2's"...you gotta cook it...whatever you do *don't* cook it...crush it up in a piece of paper...whatever you do, *don't* use paper, or you'll have five million really tiny little balls all over the place...use a 3cc rig...use a 1cc rig...use any old rig u want...use a cottton....don't use a cotton...just thro it in the rig...IV...IM...PLUG the motherfucker...

[nick]

Cool attitude Mr Zito.....cool name too.

[Black_Pony]

Fixing percs?!?!? OMG, I remember you saying you used to do that plenty, but I must have missed your 'how to.'

:D

PS. I wish someone would show me how to use my computer.

Oh, and LorTab; I remember taking a tech. writing class in college and they told us the same thing. It was about like writing manuals and how to's and stuff and how you ave to assume the reader is an idiot. You need to put warnings like dont eat plastic bag, or dont shove appliance cord up your hind quarters etc. i figure writing a opiophile how to is pretty similar.

Good attitude, FrankZ...and I've gotten in trouble myself a little for showing how to fix perks, so you're not the only one...I didn't have much of a "harm reduction" attitude when I first got on here, but I'm learning...and I kind of agree with you, that thread had served it's purpose, and it's gone gone gone...

[Slippin|Fallen]

Just want to say thanks to Frank again for being a good sport. Your post was the last one I read before making the post so it was fresh in my head, like I said I was not calling you out. You also gave me the last part of the edge or the inspiration (i guess they would be the right words) to write the post.

Thank you everyone for having a positive response to this post, hopefully that means if there are anymore true how to's (and not this is my way types) they might be written with the thought that people are actually going to try to use their method. Even if someone starts a how to and another person jumps in to add stuff, or maybe help by adding pics or something.


Also theres always 1001 different ways to do things. So if someone makes a how to on something, dont let that stop *you* from trying to make a different one. Maybe its the same thing but you changed 2 parts. You might have had success using warm water not cold, and maybe instead of using a stove with a frying pan with heat on low (1), you might live with family or have a wife that you hide your habit from, so you might have to use a candle or a lighter.


I understand this forum isnt supposed to support illegal drug use, or soliciting etc... (you know the rest)
Though from a harm reduction stand point are we aloud to possible have a sub forum with how to's? I mean the point is to try and sway people from doing stupid things based on lack of knowledge or myths. This isnt promoting illegal drug use or using drugs in the wrong ways. Its simply semi educating someone with the lack of knowledge on how to properly prepare the right way with the least possible harm or wrong doing (did that come out right? let me know if not ill edit)

I mean obviously sticky a warning that no one posting is a professional, nothing is 100% scientifically proven, you should by any means not try any of these methods (at least unsupervised or without someone experienced there(trying to cover all the bases)), all posts are simply there to try and prevent people hurting themselves, etc..........

You could always have a special mod or two (wink wink haha) for that sub forum to try there best and read over the methods and make sure to the best of that mods knowledge didnt forget anything. Or maybe the readers can some how help moderate it. Obviously some readers may know more about some things then others.... Okay im rambling... Let me know what you think!

I think I got most of everything out I was trying to say.





ps: maybe we can petition to have a subforum? obviously it will be used...:jumping-s