Oxymorphone, testing breakdown in heated water

[Synack]

Hi all,

Just to put the topic to rest I'm testing out methods of breaking down Opana, I'm working with 20mg ER pills. Currently, I've placed 2 pills in a shot glass(actually a small glass candle holder but what the hell do I care..) with hot water. This water has cooled, and tomorrow I will place a lamp directly above it to warm the water for about 9 hours or so.

Approx 1 hour later, the outside green coating had dissolved and the powder was visible.

At 9:00PM tonight, the 24 hour marker will have passed. I'll go ahead and test out the OPANA at the time and see if it has an effect on me.

In a few weeks I will also be getting 10MG IR pills, I'll try to dissolve a few of those and boil/evap the liquid down to get a shootable powder..(of course I'm not shooting at the moment so I'll have to figure something out)

I also intend to try this process in just hydrochloric acid, obtained from supplement pills.

I'll keep you guys updated.

-Syn

P.s. FEED ME! (http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?p=181363)

[Synack]

Good News - both pills broke down with a bit of stirring in less than 10 hours in cool water...

Sorry no pics... but I did down it in a shot and I'll let you know...

[jab]

Good stuff Synack.. I've been curious about this since it was suggested a few days ago. Please do update us and give us your opinion.

My doc is pushing this stuff hard, as many are now, and I see him next week.. so.. I wanna know if it's worth a try. :p

Be safe tho!

[Inspektahdek]

wish I could try this out, doesnt oxymorph have low oral bioavailability though?

[jab]

Yes, that's why this test. It was theorized that if you leave the pill to do it's dissolving prior to ingestion that you'll get better yield. I'd love to see this work.

Even better, I'd like to see a way to make them IV ready, since they are supposed to be about the best rush/euphoria available.

Heres to hoping!

wish I could try this out, doesnt oxymorph have low oral bioavailability though?

[Synack]

The let sit in water method DOES work, in less than 12 hours the pills will dissolve with a bit of stirring...

you'll have a bunch of the gum substance floating around, but all of the oxymorphone has dissolved...

The shot felt like I was taking a shot of snot (or that drink with the worm) - but I felt it...

[resorcinol]

wish I could try this out, doesnt oxymorph have low oral bioavailability though?

Yep, the entire morphine series has low oral bioavaliability. Morphine -> dihydromorphine -> hydromorphone -> oxymorphone all low oral bioavaliability.

THe codeine series has fantastic oral bioavaliability tho. Codeine -> dihydrocodeine -> hydrocodone -> oxycodone

[jab]

That's not exactly the glowing review I was hoping for.

The shot felt like I was taking a shot of snot (or that drink with the worm) - but I felt it...

[resorcinol]

That's not exactly the glowing review I was hoping for.

Plugging or IV prolly the way to go with opana after you do the water extraction. IV would require us to figure out a way to prepare the extraction for that though.

Maybe another solvent could pull the gooey stuff out of soln then it could be evaporated to get oxymorphone crystals?

[reddragon3668]

Well, I've asked this in the mgmt/cp forum, but the new doc gave the choice of upping my fent patch (in 2 weeks), going on Opana, or Avinza. If Opana's oral bio-availability is similar to morphine, I think I'll pass. I think the fent patch will be better.

Anyways, the experiment sounds interesting. Thanks for sharing Synack. At least there are options, eh?

[Inspektahdek]

Yep, the entire morphine series has low oral bioavaliability. Morphine -> dihydromorphine -> hydromorphone -> oxymorphone all low oral bioavaliability.

THe codeine series has fantastic oral bioavaliability tho. Codeine -> dihydrocodeine -> hydrocodone -> oxycodone


that's what I thought, guess I was right, I totally agree with your breakdown of the meds

[Levity]

Knew it would work.
Great job Synack.

And, for the record, plugging would be good, put I doubt it's (easily) possible to prep for IV.

[DEADHEAD7475]

would thy plug the whole solution or separate the gummy shit out first. she has 10mg er

[bronyraur]

would thy plug the whole solution or separate the gummy shit out first. she has 10mg er

if you're plugging, I see no problem with filling the bum with gum.

[irish]

I'd plug the whole damn thing. The gel won't hurt you and there will be some of the oxymorphone in it.

[DEADHEAD7475]

aye aye mate

[Synack]

swab the poop deck!

But seriously, I don't plug. Don't have the resources, time, and I ain't getting any more oxymorphone without insurance...

I'm better with these OC 40's. They claim opana is 2x as strong as oxy.. imo it's not... it's equal, but I have weird funky nerve pain...

[Duckfeet]

Yeah, he's just being honest...but I thought the same thing...damn: no parades and dancing girls...shit....where;s the:

:party:


That's not exactly the glowing review I was hoping for.

[nick]

Look guys,does ANYONE know a way to make this fixable?

[Duckfeet]

I always hear this same sort of ending, u know, the sense ur not getting a lot of it, full dose, etc...not too thrilling. I"m glad I got to be around in cold-shake k4 days...the stuff they're working on, and coming out with today just spooks me, and the lengths they go to to make sure we don't do what we want to do is just plain insulting... they're always trying to find ways to keep us from enjoying opiates, or, if they can't get around that, to keep us from IVing them...

Look guys,does ANYONE know a way to make this fixable?

[nick]

I always hear this same sort of ending, u know, the sense ur not getting a lot of it, full dose, etc...not too thrilling. I"m glad I got to be around in cold-shake k4 days...the stuff they're working on, and coming out with today just spooks me, and the lengths they go to to make sure we don't do what we want to do is just plain insulting... they're always trying to find ways to keep us from enjoying opiates, or, if they can't get around that, to keep us from IVing them...

I know and it's sick.......they're actually trying to produce meds that will damage you BADLY if you shoot it.Which is an odd attitude for a MEDICINE company.Better dead than high huh!

The good news is that it's only a question of time before someone works out how to crank these.I just hope that not too many folks get damaged trying.

[krinkov]

if you're plugging, I see no problem with filling the bum with gum.

Damn! That's sig line material right there!!

[syn2600]

i heard fixing with the IR oxymorph is absolutely beutiful, i would love to give it a shot but as far as i know this isnt very widly prescribed, correct?