I'll be damned, it worked!

[GoddessofRATs]

Remember my post yesterday about putting whole pills up the bum. Well... i did it and it works. But, i didn't put the whole pill up my butt though. What i did was.. First of course, i sucked the wax coating of the pills. Than i cut the pills in half and some in fourths. I than put a little Vasalline on my finger and well you know, got the 'Area' prepared and than proceeded to stick the pill parts up my butt. Than i put some water in an enema and just squirted a tad of water up there to aid in the brake down. And about 10 minutes later i was high. I couldn't believe it. I did this last night and this morning. The only thing i did wrong was i didn't use enough, my dose wasn't high enough so next time I'll add another pill into the mix/procedure. I was being on the careful side with my dose and starting low.

Anyway, AZ you were right, it does infact work. What shocked me was how fast the pill dissolved up there. Pretty cool.
I had a feeling it would work because i had done it years ago with some other pill but can't remember what it was.

GOR

[Synack]

The increased surface area by cutting up the pills is what helped you out :) - Just for future ref.

-Syn

[Duckfeet]

So far, other than a long time ago, when late night drugstore gave me opium suppositories, I've always deal with pills, the same way I would if I were to "fix" them, in other words, kind of what u did, except I remove the needle, suck up dope, then plug....same as fixing, to me, except usually no rush, and slower "come on" and no harm to veins...and for some reason, with tar particularly, I actually get just a bit of the euphoria, while fixing, all I got was spooky rush, and some disorientation for a while....

[jonny-5]

The increased surface area by cutting up the pills is what helped you out :) - Just for future ref.

-Syn

which is prolly why she did it.

[GoddessofRATs]

Yea that's why i did it that way. I figured if i cut the pills in half and in forth it would aide the brake down. Now if i just stock the whole pill up there it probably would have worked but taken a lot longer. That's also why i put a little water up there with an enema to add moister and to help brake it down. Not to much water, just enough to moisten the cavity lol

So FYI it does work.

GOR

[GOLD N DIEMONDS]

Good for you! I knew you would get it right, creative minds keep trying. Try to stretch those out as long as you can, maybe give it a few days with that one less pill and body will adapted:)

[Dirtyrockstar]

i dont know what i like more, knowing for sure from your experience that there IS an alternative once all the veins are gone, or the fact that this is the third thread dedicated to stuff being shoved up your butt. :P

[GOLD N DIEMONDS]

i dont know what i like more, knowing for sure from your experience that there IS an alternative once all the veins are gone, or the fact that this is the third thread dedicated to stuff being shoved up your butt. :P

There are many,many threads dedicated to shoving stuff up the bum. THEY ARE ALL GREAT AND WE NEED MANY MORE!- maybe an entire subform,lol ;)

[GoddessofRATs]

That's an idea, a sub-forum all about pluggin'. Now i have two sub-forums i want; Tramadol and one for Pluggin.

GOR

[Narkotikon]

Hey GoR. I've been away for a while, but what is your doseage on your MS-Contin up to now? Are you still doing pods / seeds? Has your doc increased your dose since you're running out early?

[SHELLEY]

That's an idea, a sub-forum all about pluggin'. Now i have two sub-forums i want; Tramadol and one for Pluggin.

GOR

wtf is TRAMADOL????
is that ultram?
cause that shit sucks
i took like 25 (a full bottle)
and didn't even get straight

[GoddessofRATs]

Well Tramadol doesn't give that classic opiate high. Some people don't like it. It doesn't suck, it's just some people it doesn't work for and some people can't get high off of it while others can like myself. I can get higher than a Mo FO on it. And i am not opiate naive at all.

On another note, my butt is so sore from using that enema and putting the fourths of pills up my butt lol. I gotta get used to it.

GOR

[GoddessofRATs]

Oh and yes, it's Ultram. Tramadol is Generic.

GOR

[SHELLEY]

Well Tramadol doesn't give that classic opiate high. Some people don't like it. It doesn't suck, it's just some people it doesn't work for and some people can't get high off of it while others can like myself. I can get higher than a Mo FO on it. And i am not opiate naive at all.

On another note, my butt is so sore from using that enema and putting the fourths of pills up my butt lol. I gotta get used to it.

GOR

is that kinda like how suboxone/subutex/bupe
doesn't do shit for me?
same deal?

[chopstix]

is that kinda like how suboxone/subutex/bupe
doesn't do shit for me?
same deal?

Not really - Tramadol is just weak, like a 5mg Vicodin but it (actually a metabolite of tram) IS a full "agonist" meaning that it hits the receptor and it fits like a glove. Bup is a partial "agonist."

Bup is more complicated, it hits the receptors, but they don't fit so well. They actually seem to fit a little better if there's less bup around - "partial agonist" means partial affinity, it sticks halfway in (for a bit, then detaches, takes a ride and finds another receptor to hang onto for awhile).

In order to get off on bup, you have to adjust and that means bye-bye to any real opiate/opioid habit. Once adjusted and comfortable on < 8mg doses, some people get mild agonist effects, imagine before you had a habit and taking like 10-15 mg hydro. That's about my experience, *very* mild euphoria but NO serious kicking which is the real bonus..

[rachamim18]

Vaseline is actually a VERY poor idea. You should not use any foreign substance in yuor rectum because naturally it will impede absorption of any substance. What you should do , if needed, is to take a very warm shower or barh. Spoend a bit of time and gently do some glute sets and some Kegels on the rectum (as opposed to the front set). That should be all one needs.

[Dirtyrockstar]

tramal has that same agonist/antagonist thing going as bupe doesn't it? only in a pissweak sorta way

all this is getting inside my head, ima claw around under my bed looking for tramal to shove up my date now, thanks alot ppl.

[chopstix]

tramal has that same agonist/antagonist thing going as bupe doesn't it? only in a pissweak sorta way

all this is getting inside my head, ima claw around under my bed looking for tramal to shove up my date now, thanks alot ppl.

One of the metabolites of tram itself is the primary opioid agonist and tram itself is also an SSR/NI - meaning it acts as a Serotonin (and Noradrenalin) re-uptake inhibitor as well, kinda like Pr0zAcK.

The fact that it's actually a metabolite that is the most active at the opiate receptors and not the tram itself is why it takes so long for the shit to kick in, it has to be sorta cooked first..

I think the active opiate metabolite isn't terribly responsive to Naloxone, I'm not sure that means it's only a partial agonist though.. If the stuff did a damned thing for me I might care :)

[dirtdog]

Vaseline is actually a VERY poor idea. You should not use any foreign substance in yuor rectum because naturally it will impede absorption of any substance. What you should do , if needed, is to take a very warm shower or barh. Spoend a bit of time and gently do some glute sets and some Kegels on the rectum (as opposed to the front set). That should be all one needs.


how about ky jelly?

[Bishop]

how about ky jelly?

Works for me.

[Inspektahdek]

I use a tad bit of lotion at the end of the syringe (needleless)

[Dirtyrockstar]

thats it! SSRI! not agonist/antagonist. i knew there was something weird about it. i get a check minus.

[LaLa]

Vitamin E oil is supposed to be the healthiest thing to use as a "lube" for enemas and the like just an FYI if anyone needed that info.

[syn2600]

I've tried plugging a few times when i could hit a vein (i'm pretty fucking awful at iving) and i really didnt like it, didnt feel much at all. Im suprised you still felt a lot using an entire pill without crushing it, seems like it would be very similar to just eating it to me, minus the actual absorbtion rate i suppose. Interesting stuff this plugging is!

[nick]

I've tried plugging a few times when i could hit a vein (i'm pretty fucking awful at iving) and i really didnt like it, didnt feel much at all. Im suprised you still felt a lot using an entire pill without crushing it, seems like it would be very similar to just eating it to me, minus the actual absorbtion rate i suppose. Interesting stuff this plugging is!

Agreed man,but once you've shot............this is all a waste of time till you run out of veins.

[jonny-5]

i believe that time has come for me...running out of veins that is. i cant hit one for the life of me tonite. DAMMIT. im only 24...

[chemiKalz]

Seems like a whole lot of trouble, and for what? Why not just eat the damn thing? Nothings going in my butt :)

[rachamim18]

Problem though Nick, is that injecting oral tabs is quite unhealthy. All that binder and filler...I have unlimited supply of oral methadone tabs in 10,20,and 30 mg. dosages. These Philippine generics are compounded like Knoll Dilaudid. Cold shake and boot. Put one on your tongue and leave it there, it dissolves,etc. However, that binder and filler is excreted via the GI. Boot it and it is running through your systm.

IF a person can get and will use a wheel or micron filter, it is worthwhile for sure. Problem is, hardly anyone takes the trouble and in a place like this there are none to be had. Seeing the xrays of that NYPD cop who had all those shards in his lungs from botting just makes me all the more religious on it.

On another note: I have found two other distinct advantages to plugging over oral in terms of this tab. Adjust the pH and you can reach 80% bio, fact. Second, on its own it can run as high as 66% (not my finding, a peer reveiwed X3 finding though and that is surely better) depending on mode and form (meaning just how you plug it and what form, meaning water soluble tabs such as I have or the Contins,etc.).

So...there is a real davtange to be had. OF course, for a moderate addcition like mine, 600 mgs. oral, it is not really feasible to be spending 4 hours a day with a tube up it, you know?