40mg WAFERS?????

[betmylife]

I recently obtained a few 40mg Methadose wafers....they are scored into quarters....I have never taken them before, but am looking at w/d this week.....if I cant get my scripts......my current tolerance is about 40mg of oxycodone to get me well.....Im not looking to get high on these, just to put the w/ds at bay.....how much ahould I take? and Im supposed to dissolve the wafer in water or juice and drink it right? any info would be great, I have never taken them before.......it would be great if 10mg would get my by for a day, cause I would have 8 days of being well.....thanks for the help


BML

[tptptp]

I recently obtained a few 40mg Methadose wafers....they are scored into quarters....I have never taken them before, but am looking at w/d this week.....if I cant get my scripts......my current tolerance is about 40mg of oxycodone to get me well.....Im not looking to get high on these, just to put the w/ds at bay.....how much ahould I take? and Im supposed to dissolve the wafer in water or juice and drink it right? any info would be great, I have never taken them before.......it would be great if 10mg would get my by for a day, cause I would have 8 days of being well.....thanks for the help


BML

I think even with a tolerance gauge methadone varies in its level needed depending on the individual. Take it slow and work your way up, remember even if you wanted a high from it you wouldn't get much of one, so be careful.

I still rec pods to you, if you can scrounge up some money, if you need overnight PM me my friend just found a cool new vendor who does it and is good. Only need to dose once a day and no buying off the street.

[betmylife]

I just got my Oxy scripts again, so now I just have these wafers.....can I use them at all to enhance the oxy? if taken at small amounts? or should I just save em for a rainy day????

[tptptp]

I just got my Oxy scripts again, so now I just have these wafers.....can I use them at all to enhance the oxy? if taken at small amounts? or should I just save em for a rainy day????

I'd save 'em for a rainy day methadone doesn't mix too well with other shit in terms of safety and its apparently harder to gauge then other shit.

Ps I forgot to answer the OJ thing....im pretty sure you just swallow the pills i think they mix the liquid 'done because it tastes nasty and is loaded with sugar...I could be wrong.

[xxanxx]

^^Good advice on saving them for safety and whatnot.

As for how to take them, it depends. There are orange wafers that dissolve very well in OJ or any beverage, and there are white wafers that I prefer to just break into quarters and swallow.

When you do need them, try starting at 10mg and waiting AT LEAST 3 hours before re dosing if necessary.

[Narkotikon]

This is what the private clinic in Lexington used when I was there. For a 40mg oxy habit, I'd suggest taking 10mg (a fourth of the wafer) and waiting a few hours like Xanax said, then taking another ten. Methadone is about three times as potent as morphine, and morphine and oxy are fairly equivalent. Do disolve them in juice / water. God, I used to remember getting them every morning. I would get 140mg a day, which would be 3.5 wafers. Try disolving that in a little dixie cup of juice. It's like mixing metamucil in orange juice and drinking it. I really prefered the liquid methadone (not the cherry flavored, just the regular clear shit) that we got for takehomes, but that shit was so fucking bitter. It was like drinking a cup full of acid. It was odd. But, to answer your other question, DEFINATELY save them for another rainy day. Methadone will block the effects of other opiates at blocking doses (which would be moderate to high doses), and you'll just waste your oxy. Plus, the act of combining would be tricky because oxy is a short-acting opie and methadone is definately a longer-acting opiate. Just save them, you'll be glad you did. BTW, I may have missed this, but how many waffers do you have? If you have a few, definately save them. They'll come in very very handy.

[xxanxx]

Was it Lexington Professional Associates?

[Narkotikon]

HAHA! Yes, that was it. Do you go there or something? Dr. Lamb is an arrogant ass. Fucker. Annette and Mollie (two of the nurses while I was there) were nice though.

[xxanxx]

I'm trying, but they have only approved me for suboxone thus far.......sigh.

[Narkotikon]

I'm trying, but they have only approved me for suboxone thus far.......sigh.

See, when I was last there (12 October 2006 was my last dosing day), they hadn't started their sub program yet. They were talking about it, but they hadn't done it yet. Actually, if they had, I would have rather been on Suboxone than the done. I think done is way too sedating. On subs, I can function normally without feeling out of it, and the done feeling wasn't a good out of it, it was just sedating, like I had taken a handfull of Benadryl or something. I think it was just because I had way too much.

So, are you on the Sub program, or are on a waiting list for the MMT? They do have long waiting lists. It sucks.

[insaneike]

Methadone is much stronger than oxy. Oxy sucks ass to me(and most ppl i know) compared to 'done. I think it was 22mg of Methadone is equiv to 36mg Oxycodone in analgesic effects. I will check my opioid dose equivalence chart later. So if you take 40mg of instant release oxy, and you do 30mg of 'done, you will be VERY high and fucked up. Probably nodding. If you find that right dose of 'done it should put the oxycod to shame man.
I would recommend taking 20mg, half a 40mg diskette(what they're called here) and see how u feel in two hours. 'done takes a good 1 1/2 hours to really kick in, at least an hour before u even notice any threshold type effects of the come up. It is a very gradual like come up too, and subtle(until it fully kicks in lol). Then after a good 2 hours take another 10mg. The 20mg should keep you from being sick if you're only on 40mg of oxy per dose, but if you wanna get high and buzzed take the other 10mg, that is if the initial dose didn't get you buzzed and you want to be. I always wait 1 1/2 hours before dosing again with 'done. Everyone metabolizes the drug differently. For ME it takes about 1 1/2horus tor eally start working.


YOU DO NOT WANT TO TRY SWALLOWING THE DISKETTES(Wafers) WHOLE!!! You want to dissolve them in a lil shot of water. Trying to swallow the things whole, or even in 1/4 chunks, could be pretty harsh/hard. See these diskettes dissolve almost instantly unlike normal pills, as they're MEANT to be dissolved for ingestion. If you swallowing one, or even try and chunk it up, it could swell up and puff up in your throat. Which could be bad. Know what I mean? so DO NOT TRY SWALLOW THOSE BIG 40MG DISKETTES/WAFERS WHOLE! I wouldn't even try taking 1/4 chunks. I tried taking a 1/4th of on the orange 40mg diskette for my Sunday take home whole, orally. and it puffed up BIG TIME, and was so hard to get down. I seen someone in the thread say to take it or break it up and swallow without dissolving so figured I'd add this to save a lot of trouble.

I just dosed on my morning 'done and sniffing the roxis as the 'done comes on so I'm just now starting to fell like moving and I'll edit in a bit after I get together and shit. Good luck man, and chances are you will get way higher on the 'done than you will oxy. SO DO NOT START USING 'DONE REGULARLY. Methadone dependancy is so much worse than oxy! good luck man, and be safe.

later

[tptptp]

Might have been me, I guess done comes in vastly different forms cuz the only ones ive seen are tiny pills so i figured just swallow and mixing with juice was for liquid 'done. I figured if anything mixing it might waste some sticking to the side of the cup and shit, but If you have the wafer things like he said and that's how they work then that's good advice, dissolve the shit.

[H-Town]

When all it took was an 80 OC to get me twisted, I used to take 10mg to feel good and 20mg of done to be retarded all day. I remember one time I took 40mg of done (most I ever took at the time) at like 5 O'clock at night well lets just say the next day at work was very interesting...

-H

[oxydose]

Norko, Xanax seems KY has these 'Assosiates' all over. The clinic doc here is part of the local one.

[insaneike]

Might have been me, I guess done comes in vastly different forms cuz the only ones ive seen are tiny pills so i figured just swallow and mixing with juice was for liquid 'done. I figured if anything mixing it might waste some sticking to the side of the cup and shit, but If you have the wafer things like he said and that's how they work then that's good advice, dissolve the shit.

Yea little drips do stick to the cup, and you pour more water in the cup to get any extra stuff out. The ladies at the clinic even tells you to do this t ensure you're getting every drop of your dose. I rinse my cup like 4 times usually. I see some ppl dosing rinsing like damn 10 times lol. Though any rinses after twice,(three if you're on a huge dose and lots of pill residue sits behind from multiple diskettes).
but with just a 40mg diskette the bits left on the cups dies won't really mater after the 2nd rinse. As there will be lots of insoluble stuff from the diskettes on the bottom of the cup still which you wanna rinse and get out and in you.

I'm going to attach a pic to this post of the diskettes I'm on. These dissolve like within 10secs pretty much upon hitting warm water, and have a very faint and slight taste of like tang. This orange drink. Though when drinking it you CAN'T TASTE SHIT but the ucky medicine taste of bulky pill matter. Though when you smell the water and diskette/wafer solution it will smell just like that tang stuff. God do I wish it tasted it lol. I only tried the diskettes for like 3 days, they suck compared to the Methadose red liquid to me. Most ppl seem to metabolize the diskettes better, but I get much better results from the Methadose red liquid(kind that tastes like some type of maybe cherryish cough syrup). Plus the liquid is a buck cheaper lol, not like it matters when you're paying $80+ a week for gas and the $11.50/day for your dose anyway, not to mention he $10 for failed drug tests, the hos!

[xxanxx]

See, when I was last there (12 October 2006 was my last dosing day), they hadn't started their sub program yet. They were talking about it, but they hadn't done it yet. Actually, if they had, I would have rather been on Suboxone than the done. I think done is way too sedating. On subs, I can function normally without feeling out of it, and the done feeling wasn't a good out of it, it was just sedating, like I had taken a handfull of Benadryl or something. I think it was just because I had way too much.

So, are you on the Sub program, or are on a waiting list for the MMT? They do have long waiting lists. It sucks.

I am not on anything atm. I would love to be on suboxone but I cannot afford it(it's at least twice as much as the methadone), and they denied me for the methadone due to my age and "access to obscure opioids." Nonsense.........

There is a doctor at UK taking patients but it's around $350 to get started....ugh

[Narkotikon]

I am not on anything atm. I would love to be on suboxone but I cannot afford it(it's at least twice as much as the methadone), and they denied me for the methadone due to my age and "access to obscure opioids." Nonsense.........

There is a doctor at UK taking patients but it's around $350 to get started....ugh

Are you younger than 25? When I was there 25 was the cutoff point for taking new patients. I was 25 and a half when I started, so I was one of the youngest there. They used to take people 18 and older, but the nurse told me they quit doing that and raised the age to 25. I can't remember why. What obscure opioids are you talking about? I really went for a massive pod habbit supplemented with other opies (pills mainly, some H), but rather than getting into the whole pod thing (no substance abuse counselor / doctor I've ever told it to has heard of pod tea, and really looked at me like it wasn't a drug when I told them), so I just said I was taking morphine via pills when I went in for my assessment. I mean, pod tea is morphine, so it's easier to say that than pods because you don't get the "you're crazy" look. Yea, Suboxone therapy is a bitch, but I think it's oh so much better than MMT. I'm actually currently looking for a job just for the sole purpose of making enough money to get back on Subs. My family would allow that (support me I mean), but they absolutely forbade me from doing MMT or illicit opies again, lest I be kicked out. I've been making poppy seed tea in my car with bulk seeds and a funnel and gallon jugs of water. It's effective at taking the cravings away, and I get a decent body buzz, but not like the nod I want. I just have to be sneaky about it. But, that's me. What are you doing in Lex?

[insaneike]

I'm just 21(22 the 29th this month) and got in the clinic here no prob. They accept ppl under 18 even... with a parents consent of course. Though if you're under 18 you should find other means of treatment, not 'done... The clinic I g to does not discriminate or nothing. They will ntor efuse service to anyone ebcause of age, gender, race, religion, or anything. I thought all clinics were like this... they should be... even though I don't think anyone under 18 should be allowed in a 'done clinic, as thats just stupid. If you're under 18 chances are you haven't been dependent more than 1-2years you know, and you deff don't want on 'done if this is the case.

and Here is a pic of the Methadone diskettes I'm on. They are 40mg each and break into 10mg 1/4ths. I have no idea what brand these are but they look like these mallis I used to get but with diff imprints. They dissolve instantly in warm water, and smell like tang, with an orangish like flavor. Even though you can taste shit over the uky, chalky, strong mediciney, pill mass taste.
They are pretty damn huge too. I should get a pic with a roxi 30 or msC or a regular 'done 10mg beside them for size reference...

Narkotikon (http://forum.opiophile.org/member.php?u=2778), why don't you just say opium? Which is what it actually is... when my doc and counselor asked me what all opis I have tried I said opium with all the others and they knew exactly what it was...
Pods have soo little morphine in them man. The high is not from mostly morphine, but the combo of opis in the nice lil opiate cocktail which gives it's unique high. It's most deff not the morphine giving those effects. It's the combo of those. plus do you know how much morph is destroyed when ingested orally? Only about 112-20% of the morphine in pods is actually put to use when you drink your tea man. So morph isn't making up a majority of the high.. it's just part fo the combo. Just because morphine is the strongest opiate in opium doesn't mean it's the one giving majority of the effects felt, because it's not. Pods have soo little morphine in them, and add that with morphines shitty bioavailbility and well, nuff said lol.
and methadone is much worse than pod dependancy man. So it'd be easier to wean off with the pods... and if you just wanting to get on 'done for the cheaper way to stay well with, well you're going to just get yourself deeper into the arms of the opi bitch. If you was only using pods I would have kept with those instead of getting on 'done... I would have actually switched to oxy and morph for a while adn taper off with those... but I'm sure you done know this lol.

[Narkotikon]

Narkotikon (http://forum.opiophile.org/member.php?u=2778), why don't you just say opium? Which is what it actually is... when my doc and counselor asked me what all opis I have tried I said opium with all the others and they knew exactly what it was...
Pods have soo little morphine in them man. The high is not from mostly morphine, but the combo of opis in the nice lil opiate cocktail which gives it's unique high. It's most deff not the morphine giving those effects. It's the combo of those. plus do you know how much morph is destroyed when ingested orally? Only about 112-20% of the morphine in pods is actually put to use when you drink your tea man. So morph isn't making up a majority of the high.. it's just part fo the combo. Just because morphine is the strongest opiate in opium doesn't mean it's the one giving majority of the effects felt, because it's not. Pods have soo little morphine in them, and add that with morphines shitty bioavailbility and well, nuff said lol.
and methadone is much worse than pod dependancy man. So it'd be easier to wean off with the pods... and if you just wanting to get on 'done for the cheaper way to stay well with, well you're going to just get yourself deeper into the arms of the opi bitch. If you was only using pods I would have kept with those instead of getting on 'done... I would have actually switched to oxy and morph for a while adn taper off with those... but I'm sure you done know this lol.

Yeah, I know that it's actually opium, and I've tried to say I've been on opium before rather than saying morphine (via pod tea), but everytime I said that, they wanted to know where in the hell I found opium, as it's not a common opiate used by people. So, that's another reason why I just said morphine. Everyone in the substance abuse world knows what that is and how easily one could obtain it compared with opium. And yes, I know it's the combination of morphine and the other alkaloids that produce pod tea's unique high. And yes, I know that done w/ds are worse, and had I thought about it more carefully, I probably wouldn't have done the MMT. I'm not on it anymore. I started at the clinic in Dec. 2005, and finished in Oct. 2006. So, I've been off of it a year (actually a little over a year, like a year and a week). Looking back, MMT wasn't the way to go, but you can't change your past. But compared to the other alkaloids in the pods / opium, morphine is the one that makes up the majority. The other alkaloids are in smaller amounts than the morphine, which is another reason why I said morphine.

Edit: By the way, those pics of the diskettes you have are exactly the same kind that the clinic I was at used for normal dosing (the kind where you go in every day). For takehomes they gave the clear, bitter liquid methadone, or if you had a lot of takehomes (which I never did), you could request the cherry kind. I always got the Diskettes and the clear liquid for holiday takehomes. And you're right, they break apart easily in liquid (the clinic always used orange kool-aid), but they still have a grainy / chalky texture. It's kind of like drinking a glass of orange juice with metamucil in it.

[xxanxx]

Are you younger than 25? When I was there 25 was the cutoff point for taking new patients. I was 25 and a half when I started, so I was one of the youngest there. They used to take people 18 and older, but the nurse told me they quit doing that and raised the age to 25. I can't remember why. What obscure opioids are you talking about? I really went for a massive pod habbit supplemented with other opies (pills mainly, some H), but rather than getting into the whole pod thing (no substance abuse counselor / doctor I've ever told it to has heard of pod tea, and really looked at me like it wasn't a drug when I told them), so I just said I was taking morphine via pills when I went in for my assessment. I mean, pod tea is morphine, so it's easier to say that than pods because you don't get the "you're crazy" look. Yea, Suboxone therapy is a bitch, but I think it's oh so much better than MMT. I'm actually currently looking for a job just for the sole purpose of making enough money to get back on Subs. My family would allow that (support me I mean), but they absolutely forbade me from doing MMT or illicit opies again, lest I be kicked out. I've been making poppy seed tea in my car with bulk seeds and a funnel and gallon jugs of water. It's effective at taking the cravings away, and I get a decent body buzz, but not like the nod I want. I just have to be sneaky about it. But, that's me. What are you doing in Lex?
I'm 24. I was considered but apparently they thought I would be a high risk patient. Funny you mention pod tea, that's one of my fav's(besides h, of course). I was completely honest with them about my pod tea usage and whatnot and they classified that as an "obscure opiate." Go figure....

As far as what I'm doing here in Lex, I work at Good Foods. Just trying to save some money and get clean for a bit....