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turdkenedy
10-11-2007, 04:37 AM
i wasnt able to get dope for about a month due to my dealer flaking out.

well yesterday almost out of nowhere i meet my friend and he calls the dealer and the dealer offers to deliver within 30 minutes.

in my excitement, i get home, fix my shit keeping in mind my tolerance is super low. i end up shooting like 70 percent of a bag, by misjudging how much i left out. i pushed the plunger down super slowly so i could guage how much i was taking in.

i did way too much, i blacked out for an hour, woke up in my computer chair ready to puke all over myself. i ran to the bathroom and was able to hold down my stomache. i have been lieing down in my bed for the past 6 hours and i still feel like shit, and now i have gotten very little sleep and i have work in 2 hours and school after that.

im so upset i feel like puking, i have a headache and my body hurts, and on top of that i wasted a bag.

its happened to me before, and youd think i learned my lesson, its just sometimes you mis-judge the dose. but damn thats really dangerous, i cant imagine if i did a whole packet, id prolly be close to dead. i have to lie down .

EDIT: i just puked 3 times, god damnit i feel like shit. its amazing how doing a tiny bit too much can make the difference from feeling amazing and then like death.

does anyone have advice how to deal with dope-sickness? besides a narcan obviously, im talking about a minor overdose not the type where you turn blue.

Somanax
10-11-2007, 05:06 AM
Aaaaahhhhhhh

I remember that

CSiiSEQ
10-11-2007, 09:31 AM
Not a whole lot you can do unless you have compazine or phenergan to help with the nausea. Benadryl heps some people with nausea, never worked much for me. Next time, if you are shooting slow, make sure you give it enough time to really feel it. You may feel the rush pretty quick, but it's going to take a couple minutes to really evaluate how you feel and if you need more, be careful! I guess it's better to be your version of dope-sick though rather than the normal dope-sick!

Black_Pony
10-11-2007, 12:44 PM
I know! When I hear dope sick, I think of WD, sick because you NEED dope. In this case you're sick because of too much dope. Nothing really to do. Just puke as necessary and enjoy!


Not a whole lot you can do unless you have compazine or phenergan to help with the nausea. Benadryl heps some people with nausea, never worked much for me. Next time, if you are shooting slow, make sure you give it enough time to really feel it. You may feel the rush pretty quick, but it's going to take a couple minutes to really evaluate how you feel and if you need more, be careful! I guess it's better to be your version of dope-sick though rather than the normal dope-sick!

antigonemuse
10-11-2007, 01:03 PM
I know! When I hear dope sick, I think of WD, sick because you NEED dope. In this case you're sick because of too much dope. Nothing really to do. Just puke as necessary and enjoy!


i hear ya... dope sick is wd'ing.... but i guess this makes sense too.... id kill to have half a stamp getting me nodding

tptptp
10-11-2007, 01:16 PM
I thought that too, I never heard of anyone who had a non lethal od say they were dopesick, it could be worse you could be DOPESICK DOPESICK. Hang in there, at elast you got drugs, right?

Papa Verine
10-11-2007, 01:16 PM
I've been sick (puking) from doing too much dope but NEVER have I felt like shit or anything like what you're feeling. You are really high aren't you? I don't quite get it. To me there is no "too high". If I puked three times and black out for an hour because I did a little too much... I still call that a GOOD day.

Phloman
10-11-2007, 01:32 PM
Wanna trade spaces?

Inspektahdek
10-11-2007, 03:03 PM
Wanna trade spaces?

for real

xxanxx
10-11-2007, 04:02 PM
Shit, that's what I thought as well!

I have been there, and nothing really helped(that I could find), other than time. It's going to take a bit for you to feel alright, but as the others said, at least you're not really dope-sick(WD's).

I would avoid benadryl as it can make you more lethargic and sedated, though YMMV.

Hope you feel better, I'd give anything to be in your shoes though - I feel like shit because I haven't had my dilaudid yet today.... :(

turdkenedy
10-11-2007, 04:27 PM
I know! When I hear dope sick, I think of WD, sick because you NEED dope. In this case you're sick because of too much dope. Nothing really to do. Just puke as necessary and enjoy!
i always considered dope sickness sickness caused by taking too much dope, and withdrawls are withdrawls from not having dope. i know alot of the people on here are addicts with super high tolerances so they dont ever experience "dopesickness" as i do. i like to keep my tolerance nice and low :)

im surprised you people have never gone thruogh what i am describing, i have heard people on the internet say when they take too much opiates they puke once and feel fine, but that is never the case with me. i feel like im dieing, i cant stop puking, and i dont even feel high anymore. i get a horrible gut wrenching feeling. maybe my body physiology is just wierd. i dunno.

and btw, if i dont call it dopesick what should i call what i experience? personally id rather go through withdrawls then overdosing like i do. i have never had horrible withdrawls because i take breaks in between use tho. i only get mild depression and maybe flu like symptons at worst.

xxanxx
10-11-2007, 04:30 PM
^^Have you tried lifting weights regularly and taking a hot shower before shooting up? Works wonders for me, I've found veins I didn't even know I had.

Glad you're feeling better either way, you lucky bastard!!:D:D

Lil_Miss_Brownstone
10-11-2007, 05:19 PM
One of the best highs i've ever had was when I od'd on tar in arizona and my friend brought me back using CPR. No narcan. The rest of the day I was so high I puked up everything I ate. I shot up around 11 am and I was still nodding when I went to bed that night.

Ahh, to have my naturally low tolerance back again!!!

turdkenedy
10-11-2007, 07:10 PM
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some opio-porn for ya.

phrozen
10-11-2007, 08:03 PM
By the look of the stamp, I'm gonna guess you're either in NYC/NJ. Or, in any area that gets it's dope from there.

Am I right, or am I right?

rachamim18
10-11-2007, 09:18 PM
On being sick form non-lethal overdoses...it can happen easily. I always have had a super high tolerance. One time, living in Tampa, I flew up as I did every 3 or 4 months to cop a brick (although I usally bought a couple, a brick being 10 bundles for a total of 100 bags, 10 grams of impure heroin).

I did not have a habit but have always been able to take 2 to 3 bags without a pborlsm.

That day I found a brand "Happy Land" (simply green printed words) across from Wagner PJs <edit- no cross streets.> I broke a single bag to taste vias insufflation (snorting) before handing over that sizable amount of money (was paying 800 and thought it was way too muhc). Felt good and bought the brick. Walking back to the subway with my ex I immeditaley got very naseaus. Managed somehow to make it to Chelsea (lower West Side of Manhattan) before I started heainvg. Got so sick I had to go to a hotel instead of facing family. I then vomited for roughly 36 hours, sleeping with my face over the toilet.


It also happened another time, "DOA" injecting a single bag and blacking out for a half hour and then again vomiting violently for more than 24 hours afterwards.

The amazing thing was that after both those times I went crazy trying to buy up all of that run of bags (purities changing almost all the time).

Just the way it is.

jonny-5
10-11-2007, 09:25 PM
ya that is the ONLY reason im glad i live in LA, is the fact that the purity never changes. i never have to worry about ODing, cause i always know what im getting. but like i said that is the ONLY thing i like about tar.

xxanxx
10-11-2007, 09:59 PM
^^All from the same dealer? I've used tar(mostly in Phoenix, AZ), extensively and the purity was all over the place.

mikells43
10-11-2007, 10:19 PM
u gotta love that sickness u get in the "early years" that diminshes fast. i never did real dope but its all pretty similar. anyways compizine is the shit for overdoing it, many nites i spent puking over the toilet with too much oxy. i chew so chewing after tooting was what i did, and if i got sick that was a non bonus.

rachamim18
10-12-2007, 12:14 AM
Tar is never the same purity, even within the same package because of the sloppy manufactring process.

Mike: The early years...It can happen at any time. Its a physiological response to poisoning. One thing though, the initial naseau pople get when doing a dosage , the kind that passes within minutes (styrangely , that has NEVER happened to me even once) does seem to pass with time.

Lil_Miss_Brownstone
10-12-2007, 02:21 AM
yeah, i used to puke when i got really high, back when one $10 pack got me trashed and two got me a trip to the hospital or a shot of narcan. I never minded tho. I would sit out in the park or wherever all day, drinking bottle after bottle of water and every once in a while projectile vomiting. I didn't feel sick or nauseous, just all of a sudden i had to puke.

xxanxx
10-12-2007, 09:28 AM
Tar is never the same purity, even within the same package because of the sloppy manufactring process.

Mike: The early years...It can happen at any time. Its a physiological response to poisoning. One thing though, the initial naseau pople get when doing a dosage , the kind that passes within minutes (styrangely , that has NEVER happened to me even once) does seem to pass with time.
That is what I thought.

phrozen
10-12-2007, 02:30 PM
That day I found a brand "Happy Land" (simply green printed words) across from Wagner PJs on E.Harlem/El Barrio's 2nd Avenue at E123 St. I broke a single bag to taste vias insufflation (snorting) before handing over that sizable amount of money (was paying 800 and thought it was way too muhc). Felt good and bought the brick. Walking back to the subway with my ex I immeditaley got very naseaus. Managed somehow to make it to Chelsea (lower West Side of Manhattan) before I started heainvg. Got so sick I had to go to a hotel instead of facing family. I then vomited for roughly 36 hours, sleeping with my face over the toilet.



What caused that reaction? Just the strength?

Most just get unconcious and have severe respitory depression. But being awake and just throwing up for 36 hours is unusual.

That's only happened to me once. It was when I was testing out batches. It didn't cause sedation, but like you said I threw up straight for 24 or so hours. Weird stuff.

Duckfeet
10-12-2007, 07:55 PM
Only time that ever happened to me, was in old days, when V.A. methadone clinics pretty much would give you higher doses, if you said u had bad habit. I think they gave me 100mg to start, and all I really had was a perc habit, and I remember puking all night...didn't like it at all....methadone and me have never been really good friends...that's still the case...

9177
10-13-2007, 12:45 AM
Aaaaahhhhhhh

I remember that

Yeah, me too

rachamim18
10-13-2007, 11:45 AM
Phrozen:I have actually done heroin as pure as it gets but took my time with it, like I do all heroin,etc. now. In younger days though, I always made the mistake of buying into that "stamp is brand name" nonsense in NYC. Even though I had never heard of happl Land at that point I was pretty ignora nt back then and just assumed that at best it would MAYBE (and it would be stretching it if it was) 20% pure. I only actually did half a bag but it was probably almost untouched. I am lucky I did not die.

Of course the same thing happened with "DOA" one time by injection as I mentioned. DOA is a brand I did for year, knew the crews and and the managers, bought in 3 boros (Brooklyn, Manhattan, and S. Bronx) and yet that bag , just one, almost dropped me.

No Phrozen, the vomiting is pretty normal. It is just a response to posioning, like what happanes when a person drinks too much alcohol. The thing is, most overdoses with heroin are fatal so it is unusual in the sense that not too many people live to tell. When you have a fatl OD, depending on the strength of the material, you vomit alos. Alot die from choking on vomit. that is why I always take time tot alk about it when people say to OD is to just go to sleep forever. People froth like rabid dogs, turn purple, swell, vomit sometimes, it is just a nasty thing and painful to feel and to watch. I have had other cases wher antagonists save me but the two i mentioned here were just luck of the draw. I am lucky to be here in that regard.

Now I am VERY cagey. If I but alot I do a n m.p. assay for relative (within %%) strength if no access to a better method, and even then in tiny increments. If you do a piece of pure a matchhead will send you flying.

edarrin
10-13-2007, 02:52 PM
Only felt like I was going to puke once. but I never did.


Usually, as Phrozen mentioned, I just pass out and likely have relatively severe respiratory repression.


Actually I pass out relatively frequently depending on the batch going around.

I have been wondering if it has an effect on the same enzyme as Viagra or something because I often faint and usually get a non-sexual hard on when I do a nice smash. I've woken up on the floor numerous times. Once I fell on a bunch of paint cans and had some bruises that were sort of hard to explain at work.

I have never puked from any opiate to date. I read somewhere that it is a bad sign of impending addiction because you don't experience that 'poison' effect from it.

phrozen
10-13-2007, 03:35 PM
I think the reaction(in this case puking) is also highly dependent on that person. I'm like edarrin, I hardly ever puke. I've OD'ed quite seriously a few times and puked only once or twice.

On the flipside, I've seen two completely opiate naive users(no opiate tolerance at ALL ever) take the same dose from the same batch. I know it was the same dose and batch, because I'm the one who mixed the dope and administered it. One of them felt like a "god," while the other got really sick(nausea, lethargy, vomiting, etc).

Oh, and I'm sure a lot of us know "that guy" that'll always puke when getting off on an opiate.

You're right about the poisoning. That's what an OD is, it's simply poisoning. Many people don't realize that.

SHELLEY
10-15-2007, 04:01 PM
when this happened to me and my crew
we referred to it as "good sick"

xxanxx
10-15-2007, 04:48 PM
I have had such an experience, in regards to severe nausea and vomiting. It was 6 years ago, before I had a sizable IV habit. I drank a 6-pack of Guiness and then used 80mg of oxycodone intra nasally. I experienced extreme dysphoria and violent vomiting for almost 30 hours, and I was told that my lips turned blue and my breathing became extremely shallow.
In retrospect this was a very, very dangerous situation, especially combing a moderate amount of alcohol with a ridiculous amount(taking my tolerance at the time into consideration), of oxycodone; and I'm lucky to be alive.

pdxninja
11-11-2007, 06:54 PM
u gotta love that sickness u get in the "early years" that diminshes fast. i never did real dope but its all pretty similar. anyways compizine is the shit for overdoing it, many nites i spent puking over the toilet with too much oxy. i chew so chewing after tooting was what i did, and if i got sick that was a non bonus.


in my life 100% of the time when i chew and use oxy i throw up

so ive stopped doing that.

Coldshakekid
11-30-2007, 08:15 AM
With me theres a fine line between High as a kite and Puking violenty


Ive been so high that your mouth is constantly watering.And jaw is quivering as you try to hold back from puking
I would have a knoted stomach and not even wanna move 1 inch!!
Then in that same situation,if I went to the bowl to puke,great,I would puke,and lie there,and puke and lie there,maybe get up and walk around a little.But still feel like shit.
Maybe after a few hours of puking I would be able to function,but not feel high at all,like the orig poster states.just feel shity,and I wouldnt dare do more any time soon

I also have been in situations where I would puke and I would enjoy puking.After puking I would feel even higher!And feel better.But that was more associated with my sniffing.

turdkenedy
11-30-2007, 09:59 AM
I think the reaction(in this case puking) is also highly dependent on that person. I'm like edarrin, I hardly ever puke. I've OD'ed quite seriously a few times and puked only once or twice.

On the flipside, I've seen two completely opiate naive users(no opiate tolerance at ALL ever) take the same dose from the same batch. I know it was the same dose and batch, because I'm the one who mixed the dope and administered it. One of them felt like a "god," while the other got really sick(nausea, lethargy, vomiting, etc).

Oh, and I'm sure a lot of us know "that guy" that'll always puke when getting off on an opiate.

You're right about the poisoning. That's what an OD is, it's simply poisoning. Many people don't realize that.
of course its poisoning. it has nothing to do with experience withdrugs. it has to do with taking a dose enough to activate the mechanisms in your body responsible for expelling poisonous things. especially when you inject, you bypass the natural safety mechanisms your body has, but it still thinks it can get rid of it by puking. except the chemical is already in your veins so the puking is a vain attempt that keeps going on because the drug is still there.

tolerance just adjusts the level that those mechanisms will be activated.

SHELLEY
12-01-2007, 11:15 AM
i wasnt able to get dope for about a month due to my dealer flaking out.

well yesterday almost out of nowhere i meet my friend and he calls the dealer and the dealer offers to deliver within 30 minutes.

in my excitement, i get home, fix my shit keeping in mind my tolerance is super low. i end up shooting like 70 percent of a bag, by misjudging how much i left out. i pushed the plunger down super slowly so i could guage how much i was taking in.

i did way too much, i blacked out for an hour, woke up in my computer chair ready to puke all over myself. i ran to the bathroom and was able to hold down my stomache. i have been lieing down in my bed for the past 6 hours and i still feel like shit, and now i have gotten very little sleep and i have work in 2 hours and school after that.

im so upset i feel like puking, i have a headache and my body hurts, and on top of that i wasted a bag.

its happened to me before, and youd think i learned my lesson, its just sometimes you mis-judge the dose. but damn thats really dangerous, i cant imagine if i did a whole packet, id prolly be close to dead. i have to lie down .

EDIT: i just puked 3 times, god damnit i feel like shit. its amazing how doing a tiny bit too much can make the difference from feeling amazing and then like death.

does anyone have advice how to deal with dope-sickness? besides a narcan obviously, im talking about a minor overdose not the type where you turn blue.

consider yourself a lucky suumbitch
i wish i was sick from too much heroin
hell, i wish i was anything from too much heroin
3 weeks off.... yuk

resorcinol
12-09-2007, 11:20 PM
This happened to me the first time I took 25 mg of oxy when i had NO tolerance whatsoever with bacardi apple rum and coke (stupid, I know).

About 20 minutes later I was in the bathroom puking the contents of my stomach up. But a half hour later after the dry heaves stopped I felt awesome.