Can/will preacid potentiate vicodin 5-500?

[limitless_euphoria]

The title is my question. Opio-sages... have at it!

[OxyContinuously]

Prevacid? No sir... just the tagamet seems to work.

[moviebuff927]

I figured they meant Prevacid...I saw preacid and thought "Am I missing something?" thinking there's something out there I've never heard of...yeah, only Tagamet (cimetidine) is a potentiator that's also an antacid of sorts.

Grapefruit juice and Tagamet are the most popular and easily available. There's a few other "lesser known" potentiators, but some are really hard to find, if not impossible.

- m o v i e b u f f

[Inspektahdek]

I figured they meant Prevacid...I saw preacid and thought "Am I missing something?" thinking there's something out there I've never heard of...yeah, only Tagamet (cimetidine) is a potentiator that's also an antacid of sorts.

Grapefruit juice and Tagamet are the most popular and easily available. There's a few other "lesser known" potentiators, but some are really hard to find, if not impossible.

- m o v i e b u f f

righto on this one + antacid 15-40 min prior, peace

[Inspektahdek]

I figured they meant Prevacid...I saw preacid and thought "Am I missing something?" thinking there's something out there I've never heard of...yeah, only Tagamet (cimetidine) is a potentiator that's also an antacid of sorts.

Grapefruit juice and Tagamet are the most popular and easily available. There's a few other "lesser known" potentiators, but some are really hard to find, if not impossible.

- m o v i e b u f f

righto on this one + antacid 15-40 min prior, peace


are you CWEing? cuz 5/500s are shite, I'd have to eat like 100 of those bastards

[moviebuff927]

are you CWEing? cuz 5/500s are shite, I'd have to eat like 100 of those bastards

Oh yeah, I didn't even think of that...not to mention I never used Tagamet with anything that contained Tylenol, thinking that in addition to raising the plasma levels of the hydrocodone or oxycodone, it would also raise the acetaminophen plasma levels and I REALLY FUCKING HATE Tylenol. My liver doesn't need any unneccessary stress.

God, I really wish they would stop making opiates with Tylenol. I fucking hate Tylenol.

[Inspektahdek]

jaja, alles klar

[EleusisII]

God, I really wish they would stop making opiates with Tylenol. I fucking hate Tylenol.


I think its as realistic as my old dream, of percocets being otc...

Does anybody know for sure btw, is the tagamet also affects acetamenophen? I believe it only works on the enzyme that has to do with opies, that's the answer I got when I asked about grapefruitjuice and percocets, but I'm not sure.

[SurfRat]

God, I really wish they would stop making opiates with Tylenol. I fucking hate Tylenol.


It's insane. Doesn't help anybody. Like, let's just throw a little poison in there so if they take too much they get really really sick... :mad:

[moviebuff927]

It's insane. Doesn't help anybody. Like, let's just throw a little poison in there so if they take too much they get really really sick... :mad:

...and die a slow and painful death. It is insane. Honest to God, even the drug companies admit that they put Tylenol in there so that someone with a tolerance will DIE from the Tylenol before they even approach dying from the hydrocodone or oxycodone. Rather they say that the Tylenol deters someone taking it for recreational use.

In the very least, I think Tylenol-containing opioid products should never be a Schedule II drug. I know hydrocodone and Tylenol are Schedule III, but not oxycodone and Tylenol. Why would oxycodone and Tylenol be more dangerous than hydrocodone and Tylenol?

IMHO, I prefer and find hydrocodone much more pleasurable than oxycodone. But that's me. Oxycodone just doesn't last long enough. By the time you start to enjoy it (orally) the high somehow dissappears and you're left scratching your head.

I seriously cannot stand Tylenol. Especially those Tylenol commercials you see nowadays how they have the makers, from all positions of the company telling how they make Tylenol for their kids as well as your kids and that it's so safe. And then they say they make Tylenol with "so much love".

WTF?!?!?!

I wish I had a really good lawyer so I could file a multi-million dollar lawsuit against Ortho McNeill. On the grounds that they deliberately put a drug that is deadly in high doses in combination with an opioid they know to be addictive. And that they do this so that people trying to abuse the drug actually die.

I could go on all night with Tylenol. I don't think I hate anything more than Tylenol or Tylenol containing products. I've gone so far as to completely stop my Tylenol use. In desperate times, when there are NO other options, I will take it but hate it.

And the thing is, they know Tylenol causes liver damage in high doses or with long term use! And we have better and safer drugs available!

But the kicker: Almost every commercial you see, they boast about how fucking SAFE it is, when it is far from.

Sorry for the rant, but I really fucking hate Tylenol.

[insaneike]

No, pravacid will not potentate hydrocod, or any opioids or opiates for that matter. Can I also suggest not waisting your $ on all these other potenators and spending the $ on some poppy pods... I assure you, you will get 10x the potenation and MUCH higher! While all these other potentators add to the sedation/nod part, not to the euphoria. Not to mention I've never noticed any diff from gF juice, I think it will only give like a 5% increase in effects, which isn't noticeable lol. I think the GF only works when you have lil to no toler... but yeah man, I will highly recommend you buy some pods instead of the few bucks for any of these other crappy potentators. Hell the pods beat hydrocod as is lol, you can't loose there man.

and the opi/acetaminophen combos are for opioid naive(non opioid tolerant) patients. Which could help prevent ppl using opis for short-term use from becoming recreational users, which is good! If you don't like acetaminophen why are you not buying roxis, fent, OC, msC, MSIR, dialudid, or 'done? If all you can get scripted or get illicitly is percs n stuff then do a CWE. I would recommend selling the damn things and buy some good opis, cause it's very noticeable how much weaker percs are than Roxis and even OC. The apap greatly reduces how fast the oxycod is absorbed as the surface area difference between a tiny roxi and all that damn powder from percs(or w.e. apap containing opi). I think we all can agree acetaminophen sucks ass and ruins good oxy... as for lortab who cares, that shits so weak to begin with it's better to jsut sell the damn things and buy something worthwhile, and if you can't find nothing else for gods sakes buy pods! lol :rolleyes:
and lortab and all hydrocod(including CodiClear) should seriously be OTC... God knows codeine should! Lortab/hydrocod formulations sold in 10mg units should be OTC as hell! It's fucking stupid such a weak opioid has to be obtained with a prescription and doctors evaluation! Now percs should NOT be OTC as it would just form a whole nother rbeed of addicts which is not needed! No one should have access to opis that really needs it if you ask me. I mean we do not need more ppl than we already got dependant on this shit, no one else should have to suffer the pains we do from just keeping strait...

damn im opiated(gotta love script day!!) and gotsta talking AGAIN! :cool:

[moviebuff927]

No, pravacid will not potentate hydrocod, or any opioids or opiates for that matter. Can I also suggest not waisting your $ on all these other potenators and spending the $ on some poppy pods... I assure you, you will get 10x the potenation and MUCH higher! While all these other potentators add to the sedation/nod part, not to the euphoria. Not to mention I've never noticed any diff from gF juice, I think it will only give like a 5% increase in effects, which isn't noticeable lol. I think the GF only works when you have lil to no toler... but yeah man, I will highly recommend you buy some pods instead of the few bucks for any of these other crappy potentators. Hell the pods beat hydrocod as is lol, you can't loose there man.

and the opi/acetaminophen combos are for opioid naive(non opioid tolerant) patients. Which could help prevent ppl using opis for short-term use from becoming recreational users, which is good! If you don't like acetaminophen why are you not buying roxis, fent, OC, msC, MSIR, dialudid, or 'done? If all you can get scripted or get illicitly is percs n stuff then do a CWE. I would recommend selling the damn things and buy some good opis, cause it's very noticeable how much weaker percs are than Roxis and even OC. The apap greatly redcuces how fast the oxycod is absorbed as the surface area difference between a tiny roxi and all that damn powder from percs(or w.e. apap containing opi). I think we all can agree acetaminophen sucks ass and ruins good oxy... as for lortab who cares, that shits so weak to begin with it's better to jsut sell the damn things and buy something worthwhile, and if you can't find nothing else for gods sakes buy pods! lol :rolleyes:

damn im opiated(gotta love script day!!) and gotsta talking AGAIN! :cool:

For once Ike, I actually agree with you. Nice to see we actually see eye to eye on something.

To the OP, that's good info that's been given. Do a CWE or sell 'em and buy something good if you can. And if you are at the point where you can still get high from a 5/500 Vicodin, more power to you. Enjoy it while it lasts.

But I don't think you're going to see any (if at all) difference in potency with a 5/500 Vicodin and Tagamet.

[Duckfeet]

I agree absolutely moviebuff. And I'm living proof that the Tylenol never slowed *anybody* I met down, and I've know people who once they got biopsies, just saw the damage this shit had probably caused over the years. And I go back to the day, when the most perscribed "medium" narcotics were percocets, tylox, and percodan. And even the first two, which contained tylenol didn't matter a whit: we'd still throw six-ten of them in a big spoon, pour in a bunch of water, and fix them, and you could taste the damn tylenol...but so what. I'm a junky, I had to get right.
And the only hydrocodone available in those days, was that which was in tussionex cough syrup, and it gave an incredibly good buzz, if one took a slug or two, as it had something like 10mg hydrocodone per *t-spoon* and this cough syrup tho rare, was well loved by all of us. Of course, by pumping all the tylenol in succesive pills they finally came out with, instead of taking, say two percs, one would have to take around five vidodin, to get similar buzz...the whole thing is so fucked up...but by explaining this to a doc once, briefly, when I was taking the hepC treatment, and wanted to protect my liver, the humane doc actually perscribed my #2 dilaudids...which is one of the better memories in my head...of course, nothing lasts forever...
But I hear you, the whole thing is monstrous, especially since most opiate addicts also have HepC, and are livers really don't need the aggravation...of course, maybe I survived since I *did* usually IV these crappy pills--the percs that is--since that is a crappy form of CWE, when u stir them in a spoon....
Anyway, I rant too, on this, as it puts us and docs in adversary position, since they do are afraid of DEA, so they become their advocates, and meanwhile, they destroy our livers.....shit.....
...and die a slow and painful death. It is insane. Honest to God, even the drug companies admit that they put Tylenol in there so that someone with a tolerance will DIE from the Tylenol before they even approach dying from the hydrocodone or oxycodone. Rather they say that the Tylenol deters someone taking it for recreational use.
In the very least, I think Tylenol-containing opioid products should never be a Schedule II drug. I know hydrocodone and Tylenol are Schedule III, but not oxycodone and Tylenol. Why would oxycodone and Tylenol be more dangerous than hydrocodone and Tylenol?
IMHO, I prefer and find hydrocodone much more pleasurable than oxycodone. But that's me. Oxycodone just doesn't last long enough. By the time you start to enjoy it (orally) the high somehow dissappears and you're left scratching your head.
I seriously cannot stand Tylenol. Especially those Tylenol commercials you see nowadays how they have the makers, from all positions of the company telling how they make Tylenol for their kids as well as your kids and that it's so safe. And then they say they make Tylenol with "so much love".
WTF?!?!?!
I wish I had a really good lawyer so I could file a multi-million dollar lawsuit against Ortho McNeill. On the grounds that they deliberately put a drug that is deadly in high doses in combination with an opioid they know to be addictive. And that they do this so that people trying to abuse the drug actually die.
I could go on all night with Tylenol. I don't think I hate anything more than Tylenol or Tylenol containing products. I've gone so far as to completely stop my Tylenol use. In desperate times, when there are NO other options, I will take it but hate it.
And the thing is, they know Tylenol causes liver damage in high doses or with long term use! And we have better and safer drugs available!
But the kicker: Almost every commercial you see, they boast about how fucking SAFE it is, when it is far from.
Sorry for the rant, but I really fucking hate Tylenol.

[moviebuff927]

And even the first two, which contained tylenol didn't matter a whit: we'd still throw six-ten of them in a big spoon, pour in a bunch of water, and fix them, and you could taste the damn tylenol...but so what. I'm a junky, I had to get right.

Ouch...I've only tried once to shoot up anything with Tylenol in it. I was already fucked up from benzos so that had a lot to do with the bad decision to try and shoot up a Tylox with Tylenol in it. I didn't feel shit and I really hated doing it, even on Xanax I knew that was a dumb thing.

Did you get any type of rush or high from shooting up Percs?

BTW, anyone reading this, DO NOT EVER SHOOT UP ANYTHING WITH TYLENOL IN IT! EVEN IF IT DOES CONTAIN SOME AMOUNT OF OXYCODONE OR HYDROCODONE! I can be a dumbass on occassion (those occassions being benzo-intoxicated) and shooting up a Tylox was definately one of the dumbest things I've ever done. I shudder when I think about that.

[Duckfeet]

First: yes, it is dumb, don't anybody do it: we just didn't know any better. Me and my old lady did it for years, and so far, HepC treatment for her hasn't worked, and her liver was in bad shape, might need transplant...it's a mess...

Having said that: if yer sick, percodans--aspirin--worked o.k. I'd feel them...not much rush, but I'd get a buzz. Percocets and Tylox--tylenol--were messier. We'd take eight at a time, and fix them either three times a piede w/insulin rig, or once w/3 cc "big" rig. And it would get u well, but again, no rush, just a slight narcotic buzz. But I didn't keep track of everybody, and of course, other than my ex, I don't know what happened to them. This was in the eighties, and we didn't have all the knowledge people now do.

We always wanted diluadids, but #4's, when we could even find them, at this point, where I lived, were going for forty bucks a pop...so percs was it...

After vicodin and lortabs and such came out, most docs switched to them, and percs became very rare. I'm avoiding the topic of oxycontin, as that was whole other area, and came out right when I was struggling to get off everything. It was southern thing, in towns where heroin was unavailable....



Ouch...I've only tried once to shoot up anything with Tylenol in it. I was already fucked up from benzos so that had a lot to do with the bad decision to try and shoot up a Tylox with Tylenol in it. I didn't feel shit and I really hated doing it, even on Xanax I knew that was a dumb thing.

Did you get any type of rush or high from shooting up Percs?

BTW, anyone reading this, DO NOT EVER SHOOT UP ANYTHING WITH TYLENOL IN IT! EVEN IF IT DOES CONTAIN SOME AMOUNT OF OXYCODONE OR HYDROCODONE! I can be a dumbass on occassion (those occassions being benzo-intoxicated) and shooting up a Tylox was definately one of the dumbest things I've ever done. I shudder when I think about that.