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Duckfeet
10-08-2007, 10:42 PM
I can't even hardly watch this movie. I'm no liberal, and hate some notions of political correct crap, but I swear, I'm going to make myself watch it again. I've been by this town, and spent much of my life in the south, North Florida and South Louisiana particularly...but this movie just breaks my motherfucking heart. To think any man could see another man as less than human, and more deserving of pain and death is impossible to believe, but such was the case, at one time. And in some parts of the world, from Darfur to other places, it is still true, that we feel that some people's lives are worth less than others. Some times I think people are the scourge of this planet, and it will be such a better place once we kill each other off...

Indy
10-09-2007, 01:15 AM
Could you maybe describe what you mean for those of us who haven't seen the movie? Heh maybe i'm just slow but i don't really know what you're talking about.

EDIT: just looked it up, i think i understand it kinda now.

AZJunkie
10-09-2007, 01:20 AM
Thread title made me think of Jerry Garcia's guitar...but I think it's named ROSEBUD.

Duckfeet
10-09-2007, 01:29 AM
Sure. It's really way off topic, it's just I lived out that way. I lived in Gainesville, Florida, and every year, would head out to the Gulf, for the Cedar Key Arts Festival, and you go by, see off to the side, a little town called Rosewood.

In 1923, there was an incident, and it turned into a race riot, black people were lynched, houses burned down...and worse, until the 1980's it was never mentioned. A reporter visiting Rosewood noticed there were very few black people living there. I love N.Florida, but it's part of the south, in general, and this was a tough area, in the pre-air-conditioning days...

So this movie was based on this incident. Jon Voight and Ving Rhames star, it's fiction...just shows some lynching and white people acting badly, and some not so badly...this crap happened everywhere, not just here...just one of those movies...of course, much was exagerated to make the film...but it was area I lived in, many years ago, so it was of interest to me...

AZJunkie
10-09-2007, 01:32 AM
I certainly dont mind the off-topicness. Cher is in a movie about that right??

Or am I once again off in left field?

*edit: never mind, I reread your last post. LEFT FIELD all day. lol.

JonnyMohawk
10-09-2007, 01:44 AM
Hey Uncle Duck, If you dont mind me asking where did your avatar come from? Was it a drawing (of you?) that someone made? I always wondered and just now decided to ask.

siggy
10-10-2007, 03:00 PM
I know what you mean - and that's how I see the war on Afghanistan and Iraq. How can everyone see the news, read the paper, whatever and just go, "Well, too bad- fucking ragheads". Folks can't help where they're born - when I see the pics of the little girls and boys with limbs blown off or outright dead, it makes me want to puke, especially when it's our tax money behind it all. Government is bad. But when you get some evil foks in power, then it's not just bad, but satanic. These are civilians being bombed - "Well, we had a report some terrorist was in the building..."What the fuck? So you bomb the whole apartment building, innocent men, women and children?" What the hell has gone wrong in this country - it's like the body snatchers for real! Nobody cares if we're killing innocents or that we're torturing people? How about just the fact it's pre-emptive war? "Oh, hell, Siggy, sit down and shut the fuck up - they're only Iraqis, only Afghanis - it's not like they're human or anything."

nick
10-10-2007, 03:15 PM
Yeah,it's a good movie.I think it's directed by John Sinclair,who also made New jack city or boys in the hood......I can't remember which.

Intolerence is a bitch.

Duckfeet
10-10-2007, 06:18 PM
Nah. When I was looking around for Avatars, I was kind of looking at authors and crazy people I always liked. Burroughs is usually first one we all think of and he's cool, but kind of taken. Next, for me, just because I always liked his attitude, and self-destructiveness, was Brendan Behan, the Irishman. They had a pretty cool statue of him in a park in Dublin or somewhere I thought of...looked for that avatar...

Finally I get around to seeing if there was anything on Alexander Trocchi. I first ran across his book in an English Bookstore in Lima, Peru. Everything in my life had turned to shit, and a cocaine scheme had fallen apart, and I scrounged up money for a ticket back to Calif... Anyway, while I'm killing a couple of days, waiting on flight and money, I found this bookstore, and see this book "Cain's Book," by Alexander Trocchi. And it's a lot like "Junky" by W. Burroughs, just an autobiographical account of a Scotsman on heroin in--mostly--NYC. Nick knows a lot more about him, but I gather he ended his days on heroin maintenance in London (sigh).

I was in my twenties, and still running all over the damn place. I had just finished a long spree of burglarizing drugstores, and knew that was over, had sold my Harley, and headed down to Peru, to see Dad in Trujillo...and it all ended badly, but at least I found that book.

So when I signed up here, I was googling around on Trocchi, and stumbled on that Avatar on one of the dustjackets of "Cain's Book..." so no, it's not me, it's Trocchi...I guess... ;-)


Hey Uncle Duck, If you dont mind me asking where did your avatar come from? Was it a drawing (of you?) that someone made? I always wondered and just now decided to ask.