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opiobsessed
12-16-2005, 01:06 PM
The only minor drawback about switching from one opiate to another is the 24 hour or more waiting period one has to go in wd before switching. I"m sitting here starting to wd from bupe so I can start my christmas season early in opium heaven with vico cwe. I'm sitting here on the puter and all I can think of is feeling wonderful tonite, I know I'm cutting it too close as it is because one should really wait 2 to 3 days before even dosing anything else after being on bupe for a long time but I just am going to take just enough to keep wd away until 4 days, then go full tilt. Thing I wonder, would it even make any difference if I took some now rather than waiting 24 hours(its been 18 hours since my last bupe dose)? back when I first did this, however I was on 4mg or I think 8mg a day of sub when I waited 18 hours since last dose, then took vicodin, went into horrible wd for about an hour, then took 3 more vico an hour later when the wd subsided. Strange thing is that the wd not only went away but I was nice and buzzed, like the full agonist in vicodin overtook the bupe, contrary to docs statement they say bupe has an iron grip on them receptors, but I broke them free in an hour like I said back when I did this. Only thing is, now I'm on 24mg sub a day, I also am aware the higher the dose of this stuff, the more blocking the naloxone has in it too. Main thing I want to know, would I just waste my goodies all the way though if I started 24 hours since my last sub dose? or would they start working better and better after 3 days when the bupe is completely gone out of my system?

paperrabbit
12-19-2005, 05:01 PM
i swear there was a thread JUST like this not too long ago...
well, since you are on such a high sustained dose, of course you would be better off waiting the few days, because if you dose hydro within 24 hours of your bupe you might go into wds (as you said happened in the past) - yes, you can break through the bupe, but it usually requires much more of the agonist - why waste drugs if a day or two later you can get more bang for your buck?

poppy
12-19-2005, 05:40 PM
paperrabbit, I love that expression quote ".....more bang for your buck" for some reason its amused me

Zoop
12-19-2005, 09:13 PM
good luck ma bro. I am on the bupe now too and I tried taking a dose of my old favorite, kratom, a few days ago. It was a HUGE amount, like double what I took for a decent buzz before, and no effect at all, except my stomach felt a little queasy from all that kratom (yuck!). The smell of kratom naueates me nowadays.

Nothing like Christmas day, with family, some presents and a full-on hydrocodone buzz. Just about makes it tolerable? Eh?

Zoop
12-19-2005, 09:16 PM
DAMN. double posting sorry.