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Shotalotofdopeamus
09-22-2007, 02:42 PM
My family has a long and storied tradition of substance abuse. In fact, its so bad that if it was an Olympic sport we would own. Right now I have one uncle in jail for selling 500,000 hits of acid to a DEA agent after being set up by a buddy (happened back in '88 - should be getting out soon) who was also addicted to every substance on the planet. I have 2 dead aunts and 1 dead uncle - All of them died in Seattle within 4 weeks of each other from OD's and shit 'friends' who just left them. 2 dead cousins - again in Seattle and both OD's. My parents were long time alcoholics with penchants for smoking crack when it was around and beating the shit out of me and my brothers and sister - but mostly me. The more I look at my family that more I realize that all of them are addicts. My fucking grandparents are junkies - Grandpa was/is a morphine/heroin addict courtesy of Vietnam and grandma loves her martinis and pain pills.If I dropped my family there would not be a single clean UA. I use because I was abused sexually and physically as a child...and I like getting stoned. My youngest brother is the only good seed in the family. He is married, has a kid, and has never gotten high once in his life. Is there a gene or some shit that makes people do this? The more I think about it the more I am glad that I am no longer going to be a father. The GF miscarried almost a month and a half ago. If the family past is what his future might hold for him than better be it for him to be in eternity's embrace.

Does addiction have a literal physical reason? Genetic? God I need to get high.

GoddessofRATs
09-22-2007, 02:52 PM
I don't have any opiate abusers in my family but my dad and my moms sister are alcoholics. I don't think my aunt drinks anymore though.

My dads been drinking since he was a teenager, and he's like 62 now. But i never talk to my dad so who knows what the canadian is up to these days lol.

Who knows maybe my Great great grandma was an opium addict in the early 1900's or something. Probably.

GOR

oxydose
09-22-2007, 02:53 PM
while substance use is common in my family, it was never prevelantly around me as a kid, nothing bad atleast. now i do suspect my older relatives to of had problems while they where younger, and now me and over half of my cousins are addicted to some substance, most others use but seem to keep theres more in check.

so while it wasn't prevently around i think it may run in my genes, but still that isnt a excuse for my such tom-fool-ary (lol).

Shotalotofdopeamus
09-22-2007, 03:05 PM
while substance use is common in my family, it was never prevelantly around me as a kid, nothing bad atleast. now i do suspect my older relatives to of had problems while they where younger, and now me and over half of my cousins are addicted to some substance, most others use but seem to keep theres more in check.

so while it wasn't prevently around i think it may run in my genes, but still that isnt a excuse for my such tom-fool-ary (lol).

Im glad it was not around you when you were younger. I remember coming home from school with my brothers and sisters when I was around 12 and seeing mommy passed out on the couch with her pipe next to her. "Mom is taking a nap, Go upstairs and do your home work." Fuck, I was being watched by my grandpa and he shot up in front of me like it was nothing. I thought that this was NORMAL. I got pulled by social services and sent into foster care after my dad broke my jaw when I was 14 (my room was not clean enough) and that was the only normal family I had ever been in. I was in there until my dad got sent to prison and my mom got me back after completing some shit course on parenting. My siblings got split up and sent to other familys. 6 of the best months of my life. No worries about getting hit, mommy oding, daddy beating the fuck out of me for not understanding my math homework....... Dad got out but mom left his sorry ass while he was in jail. Mom just recently died though...and now its just dad left....blah. I can not wait till he dies. Its fucked up but I seriously hate him. If his brain was on fire I would not piss in his ear to put it out.

Saint
09-23-2007, 07:04 AM
My father was an alcoholic...

OPticrazi
09-23-2007, 07:22 AM
That is one sad fucked up story brother! I have spoken to may people about the gene connection to addiction and the just I like fucking getting high aspects. 99% tell me it is most definitely in the genes.
BUT NOT ALL IS LOST! PS I hang with a shrinks and pretty fuckin smart folks.
I grew up with abusive parents, and we are talking in the fucking 50's when NOBODY gave a shit. After I got out of the military, I went counseling, not for my drug use, just to screw my fucking head back on straight! It took about a year or two, but it gave me the tools I NEEDED, not bullshit slogans or other types of psycho-babble.
So, this is my thought, for what there worth.

YOU control YOU, YOU make your choices, if you lack the tools to do so in a manner that makes YOU feel good, then seek those that can provide you with those tools you need...........................Just a thought Bro..................Peace

zenpunk
09-23-2007, 09:45 AM
My parents are clean cut, non drinking, non smoking fundamentalist Christians (that explains a lot with me, doesn't it). My father's father also was the same way about drinking, etc. (he was a presbyterian minister). The day after my grandfather died my grandmother sent me to pick her out a bottle of wine so she could finally have a drink.

Maybe a couple of cousins have tried pot, etc., but that's really it.

WarmCyanide
09-23-2007, 12:23 PM
family history here

oxydose
09-23-2007, 05:02 PM
Im glad it was not around you when you were younger. I remember coming home from school with my brothers and sisters when I was around 12 and seeing mommy passed out on the couch with her pipe next to her. "Mom is taking a nap, Go upstairs and do your home work." Fuck, I was being watched by my grandpa and he shot up in front of me like it was nothing. I thought that this was NORMAL. I got pulled by social services and sent into foster care after my dad broke my jaw when I was 14 (my room was not clean enough) and that was the only normal family I had ever been in. I was in there until my dad got sent to prison and my mom got me back after completing some shit course on parenting. My siblings got split up and sent to other familys. 6 of the best months of my life. No worries about getting hit, mommy oding, daddy beating the fuck out of me for not understanding my math homework....... Dad got out but mom left his sorry ass while he was in jail. Mom just recently died though...and now its just dad left....blah. I can not wait till he dies. Its fucked up but I seriously hate him. If his brain was on fire I would not piss in his ear to put it out.

damn thats some fucked up shit man, sorry about your luck. i was lucky my mom and dad was/is some good people, ive had a lot of friends though who had folks like yours, always ruff shit to even hear about/be around. hope you got out of all of it with your head on straight and just remember, you are your own man, your not your father. you make your own life and decision, but i truelly don't think i need to be telling you this, i imagine you figured it all out some years back, and if not then eh good luck bro.

no one ever makes it otuta life alive.

StillChippin
09-23-2007, 06:53 PM
i have no excuse for the shit i do, great family and family history granted lots on the dad's side have had their times with drugs but my mom's family is clean cut i guess. Lots of pot use but fuck who doesnt/ hasnt used pot alot lol its fucking great. Im a "rich" bored kid with anxiety issues who thinks the world is a big ball of shit slow roasting around the son. All that matters is feeling good imo ;)

Strike_3
09-23-2007, 09:26 PM
Addiction runs all through both sides of my family....It skipped my parents and brother so I am the family addict/problem.

MissyAggravation
09-24-2007, 02:30 AM
my father is an alcoholic and my five siblings have all at one time or another been hardcore addicts(heroin, crack and iv coke).
some pretty fucked up shit happened in my house when i was kid.
i think the addiction issue may be part genetic predisposition and part learned behavior and part the need to escape from how fucked up everything was/is.

SurfRat
09-24-2007, 02:54 AM
i think the addiction issue may be part genetic predisposition and part learned behavior and part the need to escape from how fucked up everything was/is.
I think that it is exactly that.
The big question is how much free will you have and how much of a happy life if there is such a thing, that you can have.
I believe you do have options and choices, especially when you are still young, to move toward a more peaceful and fulfilling life.
It is sad that children have to go through such suffering, life is hard enough as it is.
My own family doesn't have any history that I know of, although my immediate family is certainly one of the more depressing and anxious set of humans that I have ever come across. I am only occasional user myself, no addiction to speak of.

freedomclub
09-24-2007, 07:06 AM
My grandparents on both sides were alcoholics. One grandfather Always had a ton of prescription bottles around. For waking up, for going to bed, for pain anxiety. The other grandf. I never met, fell down a flight of stairs drunk. My sister can't drink just one and uses everything.


My dad was a a high ranking special agent for the U.S. Customs, he just drank a little tho'.

Seedy
09-24-2007, 04:22 PM
I dunno about my family, they all seem pretty damn straight and clean cut but I know very little about my grand parents. Apparently one grandfather was very eccentric. His son, my uncle has been a pharmacist most of his life and currently dishes out done in a pretty poor part of the city I grew up in. He always seems like the type, bloodshot eyes, always on the nod... And he's got that long term addict's way about him; realistic and cynical. And in two of the houses he's lived in I've found huge poppys in the garden... Hmmm

underide
09-24-2007, 05:02 PM
PS I hang with a shrinks and pretty fuckin smart folks.


Is that your way of saying "I see a shrink every week for so and so.." ??:)

Hey, nothing wrong with seeing a shrink. I see one too at the 'done clinic

OPticrazi
09-25-2007, 02:26 AM
Not any more, I went after I got out of the Navy to basically get my fuckin head screwed back on straight. Not for addiction or court ordered or any of that shit, I just was a miserable son of a bitch and knew there had to be answers and a better way to live! And that is exactly what I do now.
I LIVE. Believe me my life has been now day at Cub Med, But I always seem to be able to eventually back on track, That's just me, it's sort of like "objects in this mirror may be closer" don't run with scissors.
It was a long time ago, but remember my shrink says to me at the end of the session,one day "you don't need me anymore, you have all the tools in box and there all clean and ready to use successfully, but if shit gets screwed up and you can't handle it come on back your always welcome."

Now just go out there and use them"....been pretty much together ever since. I mean this did not happen with some"magic bullet pill or any of those mostly bullshit s"self help theory books" , like nonsense, "I'm OK; your OK" stuff. It was pretty heavy duty and about 3 and half years or so and a lot of painful times. But I stuck with it no matter how much it mentally hurt at times.

Have not required a tune up so far.....so I guess , So I must have actually been paying attention and working hard at it. But like I said, "so far"
So now I'm basically a functioning mentally damaged basket case :) LOL
Well that's it, in a nutshell, i call a body..........................Peace Opti