Stadol IV

[CIIORNOTHING]

I have an amp of butorphonal (stadol) 10mg/ml.

I havent done any hydromorph or morphine in a few days because supplies are low. IVe been taking sorry as hydros to avoid WD's. Can I get off on this stuff without having any WD issues since its a partial and also, what is the safe dose to take without putting myself out? I generally get off on 60mg IV morph and about 10-16 of hydromorph....

Thanks for any info....

[moviebuff927]

If you want to go into withdrawals, by all means shoot the shit.

What puzzles me is that 60mg morphine will get you off but it takes 16mg of hydromorphone to get you off? I know it's not that much of a variance but I'd be willing to bet you shoot more hydromorphone than you do morphine.

Stadol is a stupid drug to fuck with. Unless you've never done an opiate in your life, you're not going to be getting any pleasure whatsoever out of this drug. I say let's band together and ban it. Who's with me?


CII, were you being serious? I thought you were smarter than that? No offense, but it just seems like Albert Einstien asking "how does energy equal mass times the speed of light?"

[CIIORNOTHING]

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please someone help with some knowledge. Im going home to boot this shit up in a couple of hours and I need some knowledge. From the internet the recommended dosagae syas that 2mg IV is equal to 10mg Morphine. But it aslso says tha 2mg can commonly induce vomitting......im confused and dont like to vomit. :)

[CIIORNOTHING]

That would be a good bet, hydromorph is my DOC and yes, I do more of it.

I simply have no experience with stadol, none, and I grabbed a vial last night (at no charge to me). Im sweating and feeling like shit and was hoping it would help.

Sorry to disappoint. Im pretty smart junkie, but we can all get a little desperate sometimes and "hope" that maybe soemthing will be good :)

I also have two amps of bupe to, but that worthless as well right? Damn I need my shit to come in.......

[moviebuff927]

That would be a good bet, hydromorph is my DOC and yes, I do more of it.

I simply have no experience with stadol, none, and I grabbed a vial last night (at no charge to me). Im sweating and feeling like shit and was hoping it would help.

Sorry to disappoint. Im pretty smart junkie, but we can all get a little desperate sometimes and "hope" that maybe soemthing will be good :)

I also have two amps of bupe to, but that worthless as well right? Damn I need my shit to come in.......

All's good...I'm just jealous you get amps of THE BEST OPIATES IN THE WORLD and I'm stuck cooking, prepping, and fucking with pills to IV for what seems like forever before I can shoot. Then I have the added risk of shooting unwanted things...all you have to do is stick the needle in the vial, pull back, and you have THE BEST IV opiates ANYWHERE on Earth! I envy you so much CII...

I bet I've spent invariably more time prepping pills for IV than I do actually enjoying the fruits of my labor...

But no hard feelings, I'd just be happy to switch places with you anyday!

Take care, CII (momsonpatrol@yahoo.com)

- m o v i e b u f f

[Duckfeet]

Yeah, these questions are beyond my pay grade...but anybody getting hydromorphone is doing something right. I woke up this morning, and before I buzzed over to the clinic and dosed, I was thinking about this little Louisiana town I lived in, where the pharmacist fronted K4's to an aquaintence of mine. He jacked the price up--they had been going $25-20--to $40 bucks a piece, and pretty much owned me, my girl and a few other people for years. There was no heroin in this area, and I was running a bar, when some come in scratching and nodding, and I asked the right questions, and there began my longest run ever, on dilaudids....

Anyway, this morning I was thinking of that, how he used to hold my Harley until I'd pay him, and how my girl wouldn't come home until she had enough money at least for a couple D's for morning...it ruled our lives, and still tho, when I wake up, that's what I think about...and I'm figuring a way to get PM to give me hydromorph, so that as soon as get off this damned methadone, I can get the only pharmaceutical--available--I really love. Until Diamorphine is legalized, this will be the case here, I'm afraid.

[CIIORNOTHING]

Well boys, dont be too jealous. My doc finally started back giving me my kadians and oxy 10mgs, so I do some prepping too now. And on that note I totally ruined 17 kadians last week by overheating the goddamned things and ruined the MS. I could have killed myself......

But basically the pharm grade amps of hydromorph and MS last us about two weeks, then we go about two to three weeks without. Hanging on by the skin of our teeth with hydro or oxy or whatever we can get our hands on. So its not all gravy and those weeks are rough because the hydro doesnt keep the WDs off after that kind of good dope. But that two to three weeks of down time is good for us. Lets the tolerance come down, lets us suffer some to keep us in check, and keeps us from getting totally strung. I cant imagine if we had access constantly. It wouldnt be good.


Still, from what Ive read, if my system is clear of the hydromorph and morphine, shouldnt I be in the clear for the stadol or no?

[(inaudible screams)]

My only Stadol experience is with Stadol NS (nasal spray). You could try putting your stadol into a nasal spray container. I think the dose was 1mg. It definitely did the trick.

[GOLD N DIEMONDS]

My only experience with it, like above was Stadol NS. and I was fairly opiate naive at the time, BUT I absolutely loved it, was a lot of fun. It a little different kind of trippy,but feel good ,love the world etccccc. It sounds like your already in WD or close so I don't see that being a problem. I once did with 3 lortabs in system and no issues just more fun.
It is very strong and used commonly for very bad migraines, and I knew a nurse in the burn ward of hospital where she said it is used extensively. And burn pain is one of the worst. At the very least stick with a low dose and I'm sure it will keep the WDs at bay.
And of course everyone is diff so.... But I would start low, see how it feels and work up from there, as I am sure you know. Sorry can't help more. God Luck and please report back with results.

[pharmboy]

I heard of this guy stole a shit lode of Demerol and hooked up an iv ( bag and all )
and was wasted 24/7 for weeks. When he ran out he went nuts and ended up in the
hospital.:cloud9::jumping-s

[antigonemuse]

use it nasal.... dont shoot, i was one this stuff for a bit

[CIIORNOTHING]

Well being the fucking freak that I am, I went home last night and booted about 4mg of the stadol. And was feeling very wobbly and almost a ketamine type high. Very wierd.

I promptly broke into a sweat and started feeling like shit. I put the rest down the drain. Fuck that.....



THEN- I hook up with this dude that has a bottle of pot luck pix, issnt sure wht any of it is and I dont have a computer handy but wants to trade it for a bunch of xanax. DEAL! Since I could give a fuck about xanax and get them by the truckoad.

My big score? A bunch of fucking 50mg .05 Talwin with naltrexone, about 10 5mg oxycodones, a few lortabs, and something as yet to be identified that Im pretty sure is just fucking tylenol.

A three colored obolong caplet red/gray/blue that says Ty on one end and 500mg on the other. Yep, a fucking tylenol.

Im so in a bad pattern of luck right now its not even funny. Goddamn this.

[Hammilton]

I'd have held off.

Then again, Talwin's are pretty fun, and if you can get triplenamine (an antihistamine my vet leaves sitting out, never seen it anywhere else) you'll love the fuck ou tof them.

Oh, with naltrexone. I thought talwin had Naloxone. Are you sure it's naltrexone? That's active orally, you know.

meh, whatever.

[Dr. Oxy]

hahahaha, that three-striped tylenol, is their advanced "laser drilled holes technology" to let the amazing pain-killing powers of tylenol get into your bloodstream quicker. look on the grey part...you'll see little white holes