Lawrence of Arabia

[Duckfeet]

(His book was good: I read it just a few years ago, and a good indication of how this area was perceived, and how the middle east, like Africa, got all divided up.....)

Doing a thing right now on PBS on West coast ch.11...showing how much Lawrence of Arabia influenced middle east and who's who...heavy shit, good!!! gotta watchit!!!!

It's good interesting history of this region...

[mmnyc9]

It's on the east coast right now in Hi Def

[dirtdog]

I have the movie. I tried to watch it when I was a little kid. Kinda boring? A lot of scenery shoots?
I dunno
I fell alseep
But now that I'm older, might give it a 2nd chance

[mmnyc9]

I couldn't watch it last night to tired, how was it?

[Majortom]

It is a good movie and tells a lot about how petrol has began being important in those times and Sir Lawrence did it on his own with bunch of untrained man, Lawrence of Arabia in history mainly sent by the Britian to provoke Arabs against fallen Ottoman Empire and promised Arabs their freedom but in return Britian and its allies would get a right to dig for petrol and own it to certain extend while Turkey were trying form its borders as a new Pepublic country who rebel against the Ottoman way of rule by young Turks and the command of Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, the founder of Turkish Republic.
While the 1st world war was in advance and Turkey were captured by Allies. It was perfect timing for Britian to make this move and get the control of Petrol in their hands and it was rather easy because of the tired Turkish troops fighting in more than three points; in Gallipolli against Australian New Zealander British troops, in Egean against Greece and France and Italy in the south so they had no troops left at all to fight primitive Arab troops commanded by such a character as Lawrence who was able to act like one of them and very smart to incite these unarmed Bedevi's ( Arab groups who lived in deserts) so taught them few tactics which then succeded and Atatürk whom never wanted Arabs involving in forming the new country and didn't really expected such mischief by Arabs whom lived under the Ottoman power for over 400 hundred years.
I just wanted give you some idea about what I know from the history and share w/you..

[Duckfeet]

Thanks so much, majortom. I had read his book, and it to me is fascinating...and also--and I cringe a bit when I say this---it shows how we thought in the west, how it was "the great game" and Europe--in those days, it was Europe, and England--saw most of the countries of the middle east, hell, all over, as just pieces in their game. Much of it, of course, has come back to haunt the West, and the future, to me, is frightening. I have to admint, tho, sometimes I wish I lived back then, where one man could make such a difference.

but I just think T.E. Lawrence's story itself is a fascinating one, for all those reasons: even tho the west comes off looking condescending and short-sighted, at best, it does show how people thought, and dare I say, some of the good about us, and how--if we *had* looked to the future a little better, we might have changed so much for the better.

We do live, tho, in "interesting times," as the old Chinese curse goes....


It is a good movie and tells a lot about how petrol has began being important in those times and Sir Lawrence did it on his own with bunch of untrained man, Lawrence of Arabia in history mainly sent by the Britian to provoke Arabs against fallen Ottoman Empire and promised Arabs their freedom but in return Britian and its allies would get a right to dig for petrol and own it to certain extend while Turkey were trying form its borders as a new Pepublic country who rebel against the Ottoman way of rule by young Turks and the command of Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, the founder of Turkish Republic.
While the 1st world war was in advance and Turkey were captured by Allies. It was perfect timing for Britian to make this move and get the control of Petrol in their hands and it was rather easy because of the tired Turkish troops fighting in more than three points; in Gallipolli against Australian New Zealander British troops, in Egean against Greece and France and Italy in the south so they had no troops left at all to fight primitive Arab troops commanded by such a character as Lawrence who was able to act like one of them and very smart to incite these unarmed Bedevi's ( Arab groups who lived in deserts) so taught them few tactics which then succeded and Atatürk whom never wanted Arabs involving in forming the new country and didn't really expected such mischief by Arabs whom lived under the Ottoman power for over 400 hundred years.
I just wanted give you some idea about what I know from the history and share w/you..