Cold water lab report

[Mokelly]

well before I start lemme ask, how y'all feelin'? good I hope. ok here's what I did:

took 50 5/500mg vicoden and dissolved in 120ml of hot purified water.

poured this in a metal pie pan (wanted glass but oh well)

placed pie pan into freezer for 30 min, which turned out to be too long and I froze it solid so I had to wait about another half hour for it to unfreeze.

strained the hydrocodone solution with white dress shirt material, then again with a coffee filter

result? about 110 ml of near clear hydrocodone/water SOULution which I would say contained between 212 and 225 hydrocodone, likely the former.

I just took two shots and I'm floored! :drinkit: (this is like 70mg of hydro) all in all I had fun doing this and it was my first time. I'm going to evap the remaining into hydro crystals which should be really cool. Comments are appreciated.






*By the way I am a pathological liar and nothing I have said here is remotely true*

[Mild_Man]

well before I start lemme ask, how y'all feelin'? good I hope. ok here's what I did:

took 50 5/500mg vicoden and dissolved in 120ml of hot purified water.

poured this in a metal pie pan (wanted glass but oh well)

placed pie pan into freezer for 30 min, which turned out to be too long and I froze it solid so I had to wait about another half hour for it to unfreeze.

strained the hydrocodone solution with white dress shirt material, then again with a coffee filter

result? about 110 ml of near clear hydrocodone/water SOULution which I would say contained between 212 and 225 hydrocodone, likely the former.

I just took two shots and I'm floored! :drinkit: (this is like 70mg of hydro) all in all I had fun doing this and it was my first time. I'm going to evap the remaining into hydro crystals which should be really cool. Comments are appreciated.






*By the way I am a pathological liar and nothing I have said here is remotely true*

Man, where do you get all that hydro? I was gonna say SWIM again but to the hell with it. Anyways, I am thinking of doing this for the first time also although with a much lesser amount, 10-11 pills of 10-500 hydros. I've heard before you put it through the coffee filter you have to put it through a shirt and it has to be of certain material and not just a t-shirt. Exactly what kind of material is good for this? Also, should the coffee filter and cloth be rinsed under cold water first? The clearer the solution the less APAP is in there, right or wrong? Sorry for all the questions but I don't want to screw the batch up seeing as I'm working with a very limited quantity here, thanks for any help. :)

[Mokelly]

questions are great mild man no worries! yes I should have included that you should definitely run both the dress shirt material and the coffee filter under cold water. this prevent the solution from rising in temperature and more importantly limits the amount of solution absorbed by the material you are using to strain ie: the shirt material. if you are going to try this with only 10 or 11 10mg vic's I'd be real careful as you will be using less liquid and it will be much higher in concentration. I would use 25 ml of water for that amount and then run another 25ml through all the APAP you pull out of it, then evaporate to a nice concentration of your choice. or just drink it like it is! this will insure that you get as much of your hydro as possible.

Thanks for the question!




mokelly


oh and everything here is complete fiction, I'm practicing to be a professional pathological liar

[Mild_Man]

questions are great mild man no worries! yes I should have included that you should definitely run both the dress shirt material and the coffee filter under cold water. this prevent the solution from rising in temperature and more importantly limits the amount of solution absorbed by the material you are using to strain ie: the shirt material. if you are going to try this with only 10 or 11 10mg vic's I'd be real careful as you will be using less liquid and it will be much higher in concentration. I would use 25 ml of water for that amount and then run another 25ml through all the APAP you pull out of it, then evaporate to a nice concentration of your choice. or just drink it like it is! this will insure that you get as much of your hydro as possible.

Thanks for the question!




mokelly


oh and everything here is complete fiction, I'm practicing to be a professional pathological liar

Why should I use more water, what's the disadvantage in using less with this amount? And also what kind of material was the dress shirt you used like a hardier cotton or silk etc.?

[Mokelly]

you aren't using more water, your dissolving in 25ml then after you extract, running through with 25ml more to ensure you captured as much hydro as possible. then you can evaporate this as much as you want, like I said in my previous posts. as far as the dress shirt goes I used a regular old oxford cotton. basically you just have to make sure the material you are using is a good tight knit, tighter than that of a regular t shirt that is.

[Mild_Man]

you aren't using more water, your dissolving in 25ml then after you extract, running through with 25ml more to ensure you captured as much hydro as possible. then you can evaporate this as much as you want, like I said in my previous posts. as far as the dress shirt goes I used a regular old oxford cotton. basically you just have to make sure the material you are using is a good tight knit, tighter than that of a regular t shirt that is.

Thanks, I'll probably do a little more research, get thematerials together, buy the stuff and then make it and hopefully enjoy. I'm not sure how much I'll losebut hopefully not too much since I atleast want to get 80-90mg but 90mg+ would be the best. Do you think 3 weeks-month is sufficient for lowering tolerance? Hopefully, otherwise I'll be bummed.

[duke_nemmerle]

Thanks, I'll probably do a little more research, get thematerials together, buy the stuff and then make it and hopefully enjoy. I'm not sure how much I'll losebut hopefully not too much since I atleast want to get 80-90mg but 90mg+ would be the best. Do you think 3 weeks-month is sufficient for lowering tolerance? Hopefully, otherwise I'll be bummed.

It always has been for me, my tolerance is very aggressive with continued usage but seems to drop off amazingly after a few weeks to a month

[Mr. Watson, Esq.]

just read your post, never heard of that technique before, anyway, I'm new to the site and to the city (NYC), needless to say looking for some friends that enjoy my type of recreation, and can recommend me to a reputable source. Any info would be greatly appreciated as I am in need of a refill, (any and all opies). If anyone reads this from the area correspondence would be great.

[Mild_Man]

I'm a little weary of doing this extraction with a bunch of hydros. Approximately, if anyone knows, what fraction of APAP is removed from original amount?

[Mokelly]

90+percent if you do it right:)

[Mild_Man]

90+percent if you do it right:)

Nice. :) Planning on doing 120-150mg of hydro towards the end of this week. Havn't done any in over 3 weeks.

[katomic]

i havet seen the facts but i heard at 4 degrees C you can use a lot more water than eroiwd say (at least for codiene) i used to do CWE they seid then i used allmost 300ml of water to 48 8/500's and it was amazing! I had no problems and i know what APAP tastes like compered to codiene ( very simerler but still different) i done it so much. so dont waste the goodies use more water.
I hate to think how much codiene has gone down the drain because i used to use so little water.:mad:

[Mild_Man]

i havet seen the facts but i heard at 4 degrees C you can use a lot more water than eroiwd say (at least for codiene) i used to do CWE they seid then i used allmost 300ml of water to 48 8/500's and it was amazing! I had no problems and i know what APAP tastes like compered to codiene ( very simerler but still different) i done it so much. so dont waste the goodies use more water.
I hate to think how much codiene has gone down the drain because i used to use so little water.:mad:

6ml per tab... that seems like a lot. I read somewhere that 2 mL per tab is good but if I have to I'll use a little more but not too much.

[ax_bored]

What other drugs contain hydrocodone? I know that vicoden was discussed. But I'm just wanting to know what my other options are for extracting hydo. Are there any that you can get without a perscription?

[Mokelly]

yeah it's called hydro-nono

[duke_nemmerle]

What other drugs contain hydrocodone? I know that vicoden was discussed. But I'm just wanting to know what my other options are for extracting hydo. Are there any that you can get without a perscription?

generally speaking ax, hydrocodone can be had using overseas pharmacies(google it). To answer your other questions there are several(dozens?) of different brand name prescription drugs with hydrocodone in it

[exitwound]

so you think that coffee paper filters are a bad choice for filtering CWE's? Dress shirt material is better? Can anyone further explain the various reasons behind this?

Also, what's a good water temp., any other tips for doing an efficient CWE with the least nasty, most pure final product possible with the least possible wasteage along the way?

[Mild_Man]

It's weird but when I used this tight cloth material, afterwards the little paper coffee filter basically filtered out nothing. Anyways, it was weird but I took the sludge material and put some more water and dissolved it, then put it in the little bowl I used before and put it in the freezer again. Ran it through the cloth but this time it filtered out less than the amount of sludge I got out last time and the water was actually more milkier. Don't understand this, don't know if anyone could tell me where I went wrong?