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Inspektahdek
09-05-2007, 01:41 PM
Wow, just found a connect with a ton of these things going for next to nothing! MSIR 15mg, its been a while since I've tried these and my tolerance is about 120mg oxy

160-180 hydro ish


and I smoke alot of fent, what kind of dose are we looking at here for these to be somewhat equivalent?


thanks

axe
09-05-2007, 02:04 PM
You're probably going to be disappointed in the 15s. I was. Especially if you're used to oxys. I can't safely tell you how many will work for you but I can do 10 of them in one day, easy. Start slow and see what happens.

axe

Inspektahdek
09-05-2007, 02:49 PM
its been a while and how would u compare the feeling in comparison to oxys, etc.? Havent taken these in 3-4 years

theyre still somewhat euphoric right? I use to plug the MScontins back in the day with a needleless syringe but like I said, its been a long while

axe
09-05-2007, 02:55 PM
It just seems with morphine I have a hard time getting to where I like to be, regardless of the dosage. I'm not looking to nod, but a functional high. Your mileage may vary.
That's not to say IR15s are worthless. Far from it. There's been many a day where they were all I had, and I was glad to have them. Yes, they are somewhat euphoric.

I'm from Bremerhaven, btw.

axe

BLOODY
09-05-2007, 05:07 PM
u from germany too ?wwere u get m. and oxy in GERMANY?or are u painpatient?

insaneike
09-05-2007, 05:30 PM
Unless you have a whole bottle just sell them. It will take 80-100mg of Morphine to be equivelent to 40mg Oxycodone. Pretty much double your oxycodone dose with morphine and thats pretty much how much you'll need. Around there. Just remember you cna always take more but you can't redo what you done took. Also thats a buttload of pill you're going to need, might want to think f an extraction if you're planning on using these all at once as morphine only kinda thing.

later

Inspektahdek
09-05-2007, 05:32 PM
I'm from Germany, right now im in the states for a little while, I have a job that I travel ALOT in. I am a CP patient and you can get morphine IRs in Germany too, just in sheet form, never seen them in bottles

Inspektahdek
09-05-2007, 05:34 PM
Unless you have a whole bottle just sell them. It will take 80-100mg of Morphine to be equivelent to 40mg Oxycodone. Pretty much double your oxycodone dose with morphine and thats pretty much how much you'll need. Around there. Just remember you cna always take more but you can't redo what you done took. Also thats a buttload of pill you're going to need, might want to think f an extraction if you're planning on using these all at once as morphine only kinda thing.

later

An extraction for what, you're prob not talking about removing anything because theyre sulphate only, no additives, are you talking about an extract for a more potent form or for diff ROA?

bronyraur
09-05-2007, 05:41 PM
IF I were you, I'd probably try a dose of morphine in the same milligram range of the amount of oxy you can handle. Then you can go from there. I'm scripted MS Contin, and I can take about 15-20% less oxy to get the same effects.

You can also check out this narcotic dosage converter here: CLICK ME (http://www.globalrph.com/narcotic.cgi)

Sei vorsichtig---but you already know that.

Inspektahdek
09-05-2007, 06:12 PM
IF I were you, I'd probably try a dose of morphine in the same milligram range of the amount of oxy you can handle. Then you can go from there. I'm scripted MS Contin, and I can take about 15-20% less oxy to get the same effects.

You can also check out this narcotic dosage converter here: CLICK ME (http://www.globalrph.com/narcotic.cgi)

Sei vorsichtig---but you already know that.



dont worry, I'm always careful, thanks for the tip, its been a while for me and the sulphation, and my prior use was with crushed contins, not IRs

jersey_emt
09-05-2007, 07:05 PM
For a general idea of dosage, oral hydrocodone and oral morphine sulfate are approximately equal in potency. Of course, as others have mentioned, start lower.

insaneike
09-05-2007, 07:22 PM
Well here in the US the MSIR are tablets about the size of the Activis(Amide) Roxi 30s... So if you got a toler you will probably need a whole bottle or half a bottle of them you know. It will take about 10-12 of them to make about 80mg of oxy. Now I'm going to assume you're snorting. Oral morphine is next to worthless btw and you'll need much more than you would with any other ROA. Snorting gets about 15+% more of the morphine used than oral use does. Now thats a good bit with morphines oh so shitty bioavilbility. The only way to make morphine worthwhile is to shoot btw, over half of it is going to be waisted if not shot.
Now I meant do an extract because 10-12 of the MSIR 15mg tabs here in the US would make a damn good bit of powder, and that would be a bitch to snort all that you know. So do an extract and filter out all of the insoluble binders and fillers and decrease the mass of powder by a good 70-90%+ depending on the extraction and filtration.
Now if you're going to be using orally just ignore what I said, also I'm referring to the US MSIR 15s, which a dose for a tolerant person would equal a LOT of pill mass to eb snorting. So I was just suggesting that if you're going to be snorting the tabs in the US.

later

Inspektahdek
09-05-2007, 07:57 PM
ah ok I understand now, I used to plug and snort the MScontins years ago, right now I'm using them orally and I know the bio is low, hence why I used to brown em'


thanks for the tippage though

Inspektahdek
09-07-2007, 02:45 PM
im gonna try to IV them soon, these IRs came out of nowhere and im stocking up for the cold cold winter back home, lol, I'll have that opiate warmth to keep me through it, heh

whats up with micron filters? Can someone explain this to me? I googled and aren't they like vacuum filters of some sort or am I completely wrong? Please help elaborate on this

Oh and btw, this doesn't mean I'm going to become a needler, my friend gets the rigs, he has always used rigs and I can get them anytime, just never really wanted to use them until these came along and I'm still gonna plug the rest of them but will be doing an IV run to check it out. Not new to IVs but not a pro either, I've done the needle before and stopped and went back so please no speeches about needle addiction.

thanks for any info

Inspektahdek
09-10-2007, 02:17 PM
Well here in the US the MSIR are tablets about the size of the Activis(Amide) Roxi 30s... So if you got a toler you will probably need a whole bottle or half a bottle of them you know. It will take about 10-12 of them to make about 80mg of oxy. Now I'm going to assume you're snorting. Oral morphine is next to worthless btw and you'll need much more than you would with any other ROA. Snorting gets about 15+% more of the morphine used than oral use does. Now thats a good bit with morphines oh so shitty bioavilbility. The only way to make morphine worthwhile is to shoot btw, over half of it is going to be waisted if not shot.
Now I meant do an extract because 10-12 of the MSIR 15mg tabs here in the US would make a damn good bit of powder, and that would be a bitch to snort all that you know. So do an extract and filter out all of the insoluble binders and fillers and decrease the mass of powder by a good 70-90%+ depending on the extraction and filtration.
Now if you're going to be using orally just ignore what I said, also I'm referring to the US MSIR 15s, which a dose for a tolerant person would equal a LOT of pill mass to eb snorting. So I was just suggesting that if you're going to be snorting the tabs in the US.

later


ive been plugging with a needle-less syringe with success whats your stand on plugging on the Morphine sulphates?

BLOODY
09-12-2007, 09:05 AM
check the post by sidman down below.wheel filt. are a godsend,esp.millipore and whatman,get the 0.2 or 0.45micron and u have sterile solution.works im like a charm,iv too.no worries bout abcesses,no more pluggin and not bein able to sh...! ur pharmacy should stock them,if not get them to order.thumbs up on wheelies and dont forget to moisten them aw heck just use the aussie links in M.forum,explains evrything.