Franics Moraes H Book

[tptptp]

I'm sure many of you are familiar with the "H users handbook" written by this guy. It's the same guy that owns heroinhelper.com I skimmed over it a long time ago just out of curiosity. If I recall correctly it seemed like a decent book but one thing that stood out |and correct me if I'm wrong| is that he said shooting dope wasn't any more "addictive" then other ROA's and actually said he recommended doing it once in a while as it was probably the "safest method." Other then that the book seemed pretty decent but it makes me question other "facts" he wrote in the book.

At the time I thought shooting was a big step up but this book made me think it wasn't that much difference. IF this information is as I recall that's some really fucked up, ignorant and inaccurate statement to write in a book and will cause people a lot of grief. There's no longer an email address to email the guy though. This is really disturbing.

[underide]

I think that what that author is implying is that whether you're going to inject or eat handfulls of pills, youre still going to end up with pretty much the same addiction.
I think he also sees the fact that the 'war on drugs' supporters have been pushing this old myth that if you inject than you will end up a lot more addicted that if you were to eat handfuls of pills, which is very untrue.
It is a dangerous myth in a sense that some kid may believe that as long as he dont inject he'll be fine. Wrong - he'll still end up very much addicted and probably injecting in the end, like a lot of us
Its all very relative and depends on the amount of drugs and time you were using.
Otherwise its just different methods of use that all eventually bring you to the same conclusion (safe for easier means of aquiring Hiv/Hcv and fucking up your veins ofcourse)

[tptptp]

I think that what that author is implying is that whether you're going to inject or eat handfulls of pills, youre still going to end up with pretty much the same addiction.
I think he also sees the fact that the 'war on drugs' supporters have been pushing this old myth that if you inject than you will end up a lot more addicted that if you were to eat handfuls of pills, which is very untrue.
It is a dangerous myth in a sense that some kid may believe that as long as he dont inject he'll be fine. Wrong - he'll still end up very much addicted and probably injecting in the end, like a lot of us
Its all very relative and depends on the amount of drugs and time you were using.
Otherwise its just different methods of use that all eventually bring you to the same conclusion (safe for easier means of aquiring Hiv/Hcv and fucking up your veins ofcourse)

Yeah for sure, but I don't think that's what he was talking about in the book. If I recall correctly he was saying that people who are snorting or smoking that he recommend they shoot up once in a while - that it's not any harder to control then any other ROA, and that it was in fact safer. That's if I recall correctly. I thought his gola was harm reduction & I think that plenty of people are reading this book who are snorting or smoking it and get thrown much deeper in by shooting it. The addiction is bad either way but I can't see anyone from a harm reduction standpoint recommending that others try shooting it "once in a while"!

[betmylife]

I play russian roulette once in a while, and Im ok.

[GOLD N DIEMONDS]

I play russian roulette once in a while, and Im ok.

LOL - yea, you are ok. That's one of the few games you can play by yourself and still win.

[jacky]

well, Iv'ing some opiates may not be alot more risky than eating pills...but come on, street skag is not something that is great for the veins...

pure heroin maybe, but who gets pure heroin on a regular basis.

as I remember the website, this guy wrote some decent material about opiates, but was not an opiate addict himself,....really, I dont know what his motivation was really, the website was good, a bit limited, but it didnt last very long.

maybe this guy felt like he could better some peoples live, or maybe he just wanted to make money off of a line of books about different drugs, who knows?
maybe he lied to his wife, and he really was a drug user?

the cut in heroin can cause medical complications, plus, all sorts of bacteria and pathogenic materials have been found in heroin, especially on the west coast....even the flesh eating virus, and botched synthetic dope that turned to poison and killed and maimed several people,......and this guy just causally plays off dope/heroin shooting as a over dramatized risk?

dont know what happened to the gentleman, I think in the end he was just trying to make a positive mark on society and make some money selling some books.
best to get your information from informed, older, junkies.
some of em know more than doctors, and the junkies that are doctors are pretty reliable as well.

[tptptp]

well, Iv'ing some opiates may not be alot more risky than eating pills...but come on, street skag is not something that is great for the veins...

pure heroin maybe, but who gets pure heroin on a regular basis.

as I remember the website, this guy wrote some decent material about opiates, but was not an opiate addict himself,....really, I dont know what his motivation was really, the website was good, a bit limited, but it didnt last very long.

maybe this guy felt like he could better some peoples live, or maybe he just wanted to make money off of a line of books about different drugs, who knows?
maybe he lied to his wife, and he really was a drug user?

the cut in heroin can cause medical complications, plus, all sorts of bacteria and pathogenic materials have been found in heroin, especially on the west coast....even the flesh eating virus, and botched synthetic dope that turned to poison and killed and maimed several people,......and this guy just causally plays off dope/heroin shooting as a over dramatized risk?

dont know what happened to the gentleman, I think in the end he was just trying to make a positive mark on society and make some money selling some books.
best to get your information from informed, older, junkies.
some of em know more than doctors, and the junkies that are doctors are pretty reliable as well.

Hey jacky, his site is still up http://www.heroinhelper.com/

Ther'es just not been an email link forever.......in his one book if I recalled correctly he recommends that users who haven't shoot up do it at least once and I believe he also said it may be safer!? I can't remember though 100% it would be nice if someone had the book on hand. I don't know if we're talking about the same person though...This guy was a junky for a while but is now "clean."

At the time it didn't strike me a good deal though I was surprised a bit, but as I've learned more I'd think this is some VERY bad advice. I'd like to contact him and verify what I've said and then have at least a correction posted on the website of his or something. That's some pretty dangerous advice. H addiction can be nasty either way but saying the needle is basically no different is crazy and will likely ruin a few lives. The overall book seemed good from skimming but now I question other "facts" in it.

[GOLD N DIEMONDS]

Hey jacky, his site is still up http://www.heroinhelper.com/

Ther'es just not been an email link forever.......in his one book if I recalled correctly he recommends that users who haven't shoot up do it at least once and I believe he also said it may be safer!? I can't remember though 100% it would be nice if someone had the book on hand. I don't know if we're talking about the same person though...This guy was a junky for a while but is now "clean."

At the time it didn't strike me a good deal though I was surprised a bit, but as I've learned more I'd think this is some VERY bad advice. I'd like to contact him and verify what I've said and then have at least a correction posted on the website of his or something. That's some pretty dangerous advice. H addiction can be nasty either way but saying the needle is basically no different is crazy and will likely ruin a few lives. The overall book seemed good from skimming but now I question other "facts" in it.


AH- so you don't have the book, I have been wondering why you didn't just go back and reread to find out if your memory is correct. I have had the above site bookmarked for sometime, and I thought I read something on it quite a while ago that he post, something to the effect that he has fallen on financial hard times and didn't have the funds to actively maintain his website. My memory recall is is lacking at times. But I also thought I read somewhere else that there was something more to this. I may be confusing him with someone else here, but I thought he was arrest on some charges dealing with growing poppies and his connect with the Little Book Of Opium. Again I may have this wrong, don't quote me here. (not that you would anyways,lol)

[underide]

I thought he was arrest on some charges dealing with growing poppies and his connect with the Little Book Of Opium.

I think that would be Jim Hogshire, another opiate activist/author
Opium for the masses is what he wrote if i remember correctly. Apparently he has/had a lot of problems with the law.
He converted to Islam, so go figure

[GOLD N DIEMONDS]

I think that would be Jim Hogshire, another opiate activist/author
Opium for the masses is what he wrote if i remember correctly. Apparently he has/had a lot of problems with the law.
He converted to Islam, so go figure

YES .that was the guy. Thanks for the correction. I remember it sounds like trumpet up or over blown charges. Thanks again

[southernbelle]

Didn't the guy who had the heroinhelper website also have a blog going too? I have no short term memory, but it seems for a couple of months he did, and he was a junkie living in his car. But then again, I could be wrong.

[GOLD N DIEMONDS]

Didn't the guy who had the heroinhelper website also have a blog going too? I have no short term memory, but it seems for a couple of months he did, and he was a junkie living in his car. But then again, I could be wrong.

I think you are right as i seem to remember reading the car things too. See we can all put our collective, slightly impaired memories together, and by God in a couple months time we'll have something like the whole story :D

[Paregoric Kid]

his website was pretty good, I always got the impression that he used to be a junky. I think he was into chemistry or pharmacology.

[Thebane]

I think he still used regularly as of pretty recently. On his website it mentioned he was arrested for possessing 90-some syringes and was facing jail-time because of his record. It sounded like it was recently, assuming the web-page is updated semi-regularly.