Is it worth it?

[GoddessofRATs]

Firstly, where do Ms contin posts go? I just put them in the "Pharmaceuticals' main thread because i don't see a sub-cat for Morphine, or is that Hydromorphone catagory? If so, just move there if that's where it should be and from now on I'll post Ms Contin posts there.

Ok my question. Remember i said i was saving one 30 mg Ms Contin pill for the night before or the morning of my pm apt in case they give me a UA so that Morphine shows up in my system and they won't think I'm selling my pills? They said "They'd get me next time" so i guess that means my next apt or the next time they do a surprise test on everyone like at my last apt... Anyway... so if I'm drinking pod tea and/or seed tea there really is no point in saving that pill since Morphine will show up in my UA because I'm drinking the tea, right? They'll expect Morphine in my system since i am Rx'd it. So that's my question, is there any point in saving it since I'll be drinking tea?

Also someone told me the thebaine, papaverine and codeine will just show up as just + for opiates. Codeine turns into Morphine so that won't show up and the other two will just show up as opiates and i am RX'd opiates (Morphine) so I'll be ok on that end, right?

I'm a little confused about all this. Please forgive me for asking again. I got so many different answers about this in different threads and I'm not sure what to think lol.


I hope i made sense LOL

Thanks guys.
GOR

[Narkotikon]

Firstly, where do Ms contin posts go? I just put them in the "Pharmaceuticals' main thread because i don't see a sub-cat for Morphine, or is that Hydromorphone catagory? If so, just move there if that's where it should be and from now on I'll post Ms Contin posts there.

Ok my question. Remember i said i was saving one 30 mg Ms Contin pill for the night before or the morning of my pm apt in case they give me a UA so that Morphine shows up in my system and they won't think I'm selling my pills? They said "They'd get me next time" so i guess that means my next apt or the next time they do a surprise test on everyone like at my last apt... Anyway... so if I'm drinking pod tea and/or seed tea there really is no point in saving that pill since Morphine will show up in my UA because I'm drinking the tea, right? They'll expect Morphine in my system since i am Rx'd it. So that's my question, is there any point in saving it since I'll be drinking tea?

Also someone told me the thebaine, papaverine and codeine will just show up as just + for opiates. Codeine turns into Morphine so that won't show up and the other two will just show up as opiates and i am RX'd opiates (Morphine) so I'll be ok on that end, right?

I'm a little confused about all this. Please forgive me for asking again. I got so many different answers about this in different threads and I'm not sure what to think lol.


I hope i made sense LOL

Thanks guys.
GOR


First: I think pharms is an okay category to put this. You could have also put it in Morphine.

Second: Now, I know when I was in the methadone clinic that they just tested for opiates, meaning they didn't test for each individual opiate to see which one you were taking. Well, I take that back. They tested for opiates in general and they also ordered specific tests for oxycodone and methadone. I forgot about that, but I wasn't to worried because my DOC is morphine via pills, H, or pods.

Now, that being said, Pain Management clinics may be different. I would think it would be very very expensive to test for each individual opiate, but they may do it anyway. They may because they might want to make sure which opiate you're taking, especially if they're prescribing opiates on a regular basis. No one at at methadone clinic cares really because you're there for one thing, opiate addiction. They only tested for the methadone to make sure you weren't selling your doses if you had take homes, and because oxycodone is such a problem in Kentucky, which is where the clinic was.

But, I would think you'd be fine. Even papaverine and thebain wouldn't be tested for I'm sure, because they're not used by themselves as a DOC. I'm sure if they do do individual tests it would be for morphine, oxy, hydro, hydromorph, oxymorph, methadone, meperidine, fent, and a few others. Pod tea will show up for morphine. I doubt the papaverine and thebain would show up at all on those individual tests, and if it did I'd say it would be for opiates in general, which you're already taking. Get a second opinion of course, because I could be wrong. I'm just not sure how PM clinics work all that well.

Now, feel free to eat your pill.

By the way, I remember you saying you chewed up your 30mg MS-Contins, 4-6 at a time or something like that. In general, each pod contains 5-10 of morphine. A safe estimate is to say each pod contains 8mg of morphine. That will help you dose better, nowing how much is theoretically in the pods and how much you take from the MS-Contin.

[GoddessofRATs]

Thank you so much Narko. Is it ok if i call you that? Each pod is about 8mgs, that helps me so much, now i can kinda gauge a bit better. I'm high as a kite right now and i ate about 4 regular sized pods and made tea from about 6. So that's about right. Not right on the number but close.

Thanks for the other info to. I have a feeling I'll be ok. Like you said, get a second opinion... so I'll see what the other say as well. I want to eat that pill for a pick me up and not use my pods lol.

GOR

[Narkotikon]

No problem. Yes, you can call me Narko / Nark / whatever. Also, if you pregrind all of your pods together and mix the grounds up into a big ziplock bag, you'll get a uniform mixutre by which to guage doses. So, for instance, you picked out 10 pods that had 10mg, but the next ten pods had only 5mg, that uniform mixture would alleviate that. That's what you're supposed to do, but I don't do it. It's too much of a hastle to do, and I"m too impatient to do that when I first get pods. I would only really really recommend that for someone with absolutely no tolerance so they could guage their dosage more accurately, lest they OD.

[GoddessofRATs]

I'm to lazy to do something like that but it is a good idea. I'd love to make pre-brews. You know like bottles of tea already made, like a weeks worth in the fridge and just pop and open when i wanna dose. But i am far to lazy for that but it would be great he he.

GOR

[Narkotikon]

I'm to lazy to do something like that but it is a good idea. I'd love to make pre-brews. You know like bottles of tea already made, like a weeks worth in the fridge and just pop and open when i wanna dose. But i am far to lazy for that but it would be great he he.

GOR

Don't feel bad, I'm too lazy too. But, word of advice, don't pre-brew pod tea and let it sit for more than a day. It get's thick and sort of rancid if left too long. I mean, you can steep overnight and stuff in the fridge, but if you were to leave it in there for a week or so, you really wouldn't want to drink it.

[GoddessofRATs]

Ok good to know. I really wouldn't drink anything i brewed left that long. One time i making some poppy seed tea and i fell asleep and when i woke up i thought well whats the worse that can happen if i let it just sit longer. So the tea had been brewing/soaking being washed, what ever ya wanna call it for 3 hours. I added more water to liven it up because all the seeds soaked up all the water and i drank it. OMG, about an hour later i was sick as a dog, throwing up and a pounding head ache. It was than i learned that the oils from the seeds aren't really that good for you.

This was when i first started making tea. And well, now i never let it sit longer than 20-30 minutes. I usually start drinking it at about 15 minutes.

GOR

[blackdog]

gee/whizz G/O/R'S what a newb
mwuh ha ha hah
:-}

[youwonhundred]

Don't feel bad, I'm too lazy too. But, word of advice, don't pre-brew pod tea and let it sit for more than a day. It get's thick and sort of rancid if left too long. I mean, you can steep overnight and stuff in the fridge, but if you were to leave it in there for a week or so, you really wouldn't want to drink it.

If you were dope sick, I'm pretty sure you'd drink the nastiest fucking sludge in the back of the fridge to alleviate teh sickness.

Beyond that, I really have nothing to contribute to this thread, except maybe that I am also Rx'ed MS Contin 30mg q 8 hours, and I take them at pretty much the same dosage as you do, goddess, although my last script, I cooked and plugged most of them, cause to be honest, its a better high for someone with shit veins like I have. Oh right. the other reason I 'm posting is to put off washing the dishes and cooking dinner, basically just being a lazy bastard. That being said, off to wash the dishes.

[Narkotikon]

If you were dope sick, I'm pretty sure you'd drink the nastiest fucking sludge in the back of the fridge to alleviate teh sickness.



True, that would be one of the only exceptions.

[GoddessofRATs]

ME a Newb HA! I've been making seed tea for just about a year now. I was a newb when i drank that nasty stuff.

GOR

gee/whizz G/O/R'S what a newb
mwuh ha ha hah
:-}

[GoddessofRATs]

You guys ever see that movie 'Wild Wild West' w/ Will Smith and that other guy, OMG, i love him and i can't think of his name. Anyway, i only saw bits and pieces of this movie years ago, this is the first time I've watched the whole thing, it's pretty good, kinda lame in a goofy way but good.

I flatlined, no energy left... my tea wore off leaving me with a drained feeling but not gonna dose again, i feel like I've had to much, strange feeling. I'll jsut veg out and watch TV and bounce back here to read posts now and than.

GOR

[kyuss]

You guys ever see that movie 'Wild Wild West' w/ Will Smith and that other guy, OMG, i love him and i can't think of his name.

GOR


you mean Kevin Kline?

I got hold of some liquid
methadone today.
Did my cup of tea
and 30 mg of done

[GoddessofRATs]

I gotta try methadone someday but wouldn't even know where to get some. Everyone seems to like it.

GOR

[kyuss]

I gotta try methadone someday but wouldn't even know where to get some. Everyone seems to like it.

GOR

meh
It's not doing too much


hey deviated
where ya been bro?

[Narkotikon]

I gotta try methadone someday but wouldn't even know where to get some. Everyone seems to like it.

GOR

Methadone isn't that great IMO. The only upside is that it lasts all day long. The negatives (can't get high, fucks up getting on on other opies, w/d lasts longer) outweigh that one pro. Bupe, on the other hand, is divine.

[kyuss]

Methadone isn't that great IMO. The only upside is that it lasts all day long. The negatives (can't get high, fucks up getting on on other opies, w/d lasts longer) outweigh that one pro. Bupe, on the other hand, is divine.


Divine? Nark,
you like it that much?
Would you rather have
a 8mg sub or a bundle?

[Inspektahdek]

I wish I liked subs better than done

[Narkotikon]

Divine? Nark,
you like it that much?
Would you rather have
a 8mg sub or a bundle?

Well, it's not that divine. I just meant in terms of maintenance. I didn't do well on MMT. Gained a lot of weight, was way too sedated, had no energy, it was really worse than when I was using. Looking back, I would have not done it had I known. But subs make me feel normal. I get a good high for the first day or two, but after that just normal. Nothing compares to H / morphine, but in terms of maintaining, subs are magical.