Advice on tapering

[DarthPerineum]

Tonight i picked up 20 10mg dones with the intentions to use them to help me get clean of Oxy. Brief history; Ive been on OC for a few years now and over the last... lets say 3-4 weeks ive been doing between 160-240mgs a day and my life and wallet are suffering due to that, but thats a story for another time. So my question is this: How should i go about tapering myself off with as much ease as possible? Should i wait until i cant bare the w/d's anymore then start? Should i start first thing or about the time i usually take my first dose? and How much would you recommend that i try to start with? As well as any other advice or words of wisdom you could offer this poor soul.

Ive experimented with Methadone in the past so they're nothing new for me but the difference between now and then is i took a bunch to get high back then and now i want to conserve and use em wisely to help myself get clean. So thank you all in advance for anything you can offer me!




-Gooch

[Duckfeet]

It'd be pretty hard for anybody to say exactly how to set it up, since a whole lot will depend on 1) How sick u get, and 2) How much will power u have.

Me, I'd probably start out doing one thing, then say fuck it, and eat a bunch of'em trying to get right...

Having said that, if u *have* wilpower, I'd probably try to wait 24 hrs, or until I was seriously sick, whichever came first, then take 30mg, twice on first day, then 30 in the morning next day, 20 mg that night, then 20mg in morning, 20mg that night, then 20mg in the morning, 10mg that night, then 10mg
next day, and final 10mg the next. That'll get yer habit down real low, and you'll still have a bit of the blues, but not so bad...

Any old setup, tho, will work, just remember the idea is to get down low, not get a buzz, and do the minimum u can stand...like I said, I'm not good at it, haven't the strength, usualy I endup saying fuckit, and just get loaded, but methadone is a good drug for it, and I wish you good luck...


Tonight i picked up 20 10mg dones with the intentions to use them to help me get clean of Oxy. Brief history; Ive been on OC for a few years now and over the last... lets say 3-4 weeks ive been doing between 160-240mgs a day and my life and wallet are suffering due to that, but thats a story for another time. So my question is this: How should i go about tapering myself off with as much ease as possible? Should i wait until i cant bare the w/d's anymore then start? Should i start first thing or about the time i usually take my first dose? and How much would you recommend that i try to start with? As well as any other advice or words of wisdom you could offer this poor soul.

Ive experimented with Methadone in the past so they're nothing new for me but the difference between now and then is i took a bunch to get high back then and now i want to conserve and use em wisely to help myself get clean. So thank you all in advance for anything you can offer me!




-Gooch

[chopstix]

Let yourself get sick, the first day is an experiment, get sick and see what it takes to get well. Unfortunately, exercising discipline and patience while sick and holding is easier said than done..

A lot depends on your habit, most people can get by on a lot less than they typically do in a day. Once you find a holding dose, reduce by %30-50 every 2-3 days.

Maybe 30mg first day (loading dose), 20mg for 3 days, 15mg for three days, 10mg for 3 days, 5mg for 3 days, then you could do 2mg for 5 days or something, it's gonna depend on you..

I'd suggest getting some kratom for when they're gone. Good luck.

[DarthPerineum]

Ok i like the sound of that. Ill try to wait as long as possible then try out that high loading dose(im already guessing 30-40) then tapering down 10 or so over the next few weeks... Anyone else have any more advice?


Also, where can i find some Kratom? and is it expensive? or pretty cheap?

Thanks again for the help guys!



-Gooch

[chopstix]

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[entrenous]

The common method for tapering includes cutting your usual dose down to about 20-30%, hopefully not more unless you really still feel ill. For the first week or two, or less depending on ones self. (just to keep the hardcore aspects of WD's off). Then cut that down to 20-30%, so on and so fourth until your really low and can finally stop completely, then the WD's will be somewhat "standable".

I personally can't quite cold turkey. I use to do it, but after 2 days I still feel like death, have zero energy and have bad muscle cramps. So I've tappered myself off many things before, and it goes well. Especially with my busy schedule and work, if I had the possibility to lay in bed all day for a couple days going through WD's I would. But I gotta taper to become functionable. But once your off you really have to have a lot of will power to stay off. You'll have extreme boredom and cravings for awhile but you really have to be adamant.

[betmylife]

Id invest in some benzos too, as they will boost the methadone, and also get you sleeping well...so maybe you dont need as much at night....just make sure you taper off the benzos too, cause those suck to w/d on......also get all the info you can on all the other stuff you can use to help the withdrawls....immodium/benadryl/unisom/vitamins/all that shit....theres alot of good ifno on there......or maybe try some subs.......I once had a really cool doctor, that after I said i was addicted to oxy, I brought her all this info I had printed, and we came up with a taper down method....and she prescribed me like 250 oxy IR 5mg pills and made a schedual, and gave me clonopin and stuff...she was the best, of course I tapered for like 3 days and then got high as fuck.....but if you have an understanding primary doctor, ask for their advice....they may be more willing to help than you think....good luck man, PM me if you have any questions about this post....also suboxone may be better for a short taper for you...just a thought....peace


BML

[prettypoppy]

Be aware, though, that even though you have a tolerance to oxys, methadone is a completely different drug with a very long half life, that builds up in your system as you keep taking more, and is easy to OD on without realizing it because of the really low euphoria potential. Recently there have been a TON of methadone related deaths in the news, as many of us know, and some of these have been from people who already had an established tolerance to opiate pills and switched over to methadone and died after a dose or two. Titration is a delicate matter with methadone switchovers, and I hate to disagree with my buddy, Duck, but I think 30mg twice a day the first day may be too much. Also, I would NOT mix it with any benzos right off the bat, as that is the classic fatal combo with this drug, and it didn't take much (1 or 2 pills) combined with the 'done, which they were not used to, to kill off quite a few young men and women in the press lately.

[prettypoppy]

ALSO: IF you feel overly sedated after taking methadone (you know, like you feel you don't need to breathe, etc) or if your heart is beating "funny" , DO NOT go to sleep and think you will "sleep it off". Have someone with you and make sure they check on you frequently and go to the ER if you feel overly drowsy, etc. This is NOT a drug to play around with.

[Opilover]

Thekratomking.com

The guy ships like clockwork.

I agree TKK is super fast and plus the best priced IMO...Good Luck

[dannydanko420]

Gooch!!!!!!! when you dont have anymore pills left try some herbs, vitamins, some benzo's once n a while to help you got to sleep. I quit cold turkey off of 120 mg of oxy and I took Valerian root when I didnt have anything at all to help me sleep and it did. Theres also St. John's Wort but that interfers with methadone so dont take that until your methadone is out and your not taking it anymore. another good herb is Kava Kava extract, I think you can get it at GNC. I would listen to these people on here about tapering off it's probably the best way to conserve your pills and make you detox a lot less stressful then usual. YOU know where I live bro just come over and I'll help you out. Until then, SMOKE A LOT OF WEED TO THAT HELPS A LOT DUDE CUZ YOU MIGHT NOT FEEL LIKE EATING N SHIT. The best thing to do is to stay healthy through all this. Hit me back man let me kno how your doing n all, let me kno if you need n e thing, take care man and good luck on achieving your goals. PEACE, I'M OUT!!!!!!!


DANNY,

[dannydanko420]

ALSO: IF you feel overly sedated after taking methadone (you know, like you feel you don't need to breathe, etc) or if your heart is beating "funny" , DO NOT go to sleep and think you will "sleep it off". Have someone with you and make sure they check on you frequently and go to the ER if you feel overly drowsy, etc. This is NOT a drug to play around with.


I agree GOOCH DONT FUCK AROUND WITH THIS SHIT!!!!!! DONT take any benzo's until after the methadone is gone like you dont have anymore. This person right here know's wat they're talkin about man. Have someone WITH YOU AT ALL TIMES DURING YOUR DETOX!!!!!! Come over here or something during your detox you kno no one does any of that shit around here so come over we'll smoke a bowl or tow get high relax watch HERO'S HAHAHA!!!!! YES!!!! N E WAY DONT FUCK AROUND WITH THIS SHIT!!! IF anything SMOKE SOME FUCKIN WEED!!!!!!


DANNY,

[DarthPerineum]

Hello!

So its been a couple weeks since i've started my detox thingy.... Well lets start with my good news, i haven't relapsed on oxy! i have not had any since my last post, i'm pretty stoked about it. I ran out of my dones the other day and couldn't get any, i was down to 5mg's a day for the previous 3 days before i ran out so i thought id be able to handle the pain of w/d's but the pain was so intense that it felt as if i was coming off 160mg of ox the night before. i felt as though all my hard work was for nothing. I actually broke and was on my way to score some ox because i couldn't find anything else to score but at the last minute a really good friend pulled through and saved my day with 40mgs. i took all 40 right there to get rid of the massive amount of pain i was in and now i'm doing 20mgs a day again and will start to decrease again next week. Bad part is at the same time while i'm trying to stop doing one of the few things that made me feel good about myself and all of life's troubles my girlfriend has broken up with me. Its pretty hard to have to deal with physical and mental pain from w/d's now i get to deal with this emotional pain with it. Its pretty tough but i am managing and i wanted to post my progress for the members to discuss further if someone fells compelled. ^^


EDIT: I still haven't tried Kratom but its on my to do list very soon.


-Gooch