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Hammilton
08-26-2007, 04:20 PM
Has anyone ever seen, been prescribed or even heard of this drug?
It's basically an acetylized version of Hydromorphone. It has a lower potency than the parent drug (at least when taken orally) but it's able to get into the brain much more rapidly. It's also essentially a pro-drug for it's parent compound.
So, basically,
as Heroin is to Morphine, Paralaudin is to Dilaudid.
I'd like to hear someone with experience with this pharmaceutical (I believe it's still on the market in some countries) say how it is.
I wonder if it's as easy to convert Dilaudid to Paralaudin as it is Morphine to Heroin? I haven't looked at any synths yet. THere's actually pretty little information about this.
Boudica
08-26-2007, 04:31 PM
Has anyone ever seen, been prescribed or even heard of this drug?
It's basically an acetylized version of Hydromorphone. It has a lower potency than the parent drug (at least when taken orally) but it's able to get into the brain much more rapidly. It's also essentially a pro-drug for it's parent compound.
So, basically,
as Heroin is to Morphine, Paralaudin is to Dilaudid.
I'd like to hear someone with experience with this pharmaceutical (I believe it's still on the market in some countries) say how it is.
I wonder if it's as easy to convert Dilaudid to Paralaudin as it is Morphine to Heroin? I haven't looked at any synths yet. THere's actually pretty little information about this.
This is indeed interesting to me, for the potential value of treating hellatious breakthrough pain. My PM Dr. is one who really knows her stuff. She is truely brilliant, and I've watched her calculate dosage interchages in about 3 seconds flat.
If anyone has some valid, experiental information on this substance, it would be she.
I have an appt. next week. I will ask her about it and report what she tells me. I'm going to go do a look-up now.
AuthorRe: Paralaudin (diacetyldihydromorphine, 3,6-diacetyldihydromorphine) and Acetylmorpho
OK. I'm back from the google. I copied and pasted the heading of this post, by Mobius Dick, for the sake of posting the full, chemical name of this stuff. Being that I am, well, retarded in the subject of most all chemistry excepting the most basic, the only words in this article that I understood the meaning of were words like " increased potentcy".
There were a surprising number of articles on my google, which, I'm sure you've already read most of. But it does me not much good, as I do not have Hammilton's brains and extensive knowledge about this subject, therefore, I am counting on you, and the other chemists amongst us, to hopefully bring us some understandable info.
Thank you, in advance.
*now I see that me copy/paste is unreadable in light yellow. Just do a google and it's the very first entry.
Hammilton
08-28-2007, 01:26 PM
not having my brains is a good thing for most people. you'd have to be pretty far gone for it to be a step up.
anyway- I don't know if paralaudin is available in any FDA approved medications, and it'd definitely be an analogue, unfortunately.
I can't find anyone reporting first hand experience unfortunately. Not even second hand experience. or third. i wish i had a third hand.
Anyway- I'd like to find a synth because I'm pretty sure that mixing acetic anhydride with hydromorphone and cooking it like you would morphine into H won't give you what you're looking for.
If you could, I can imagine it being the sort of thing every junky with a dilaudid script would be making. Okay, not exactly.
still, though, I could see it becoming a serious drug of abuse. If MDMA and LSD are readily available on the recreational market, why not super H?
but I think the potency is decreased when hydromorphone becomes diacetylhydromorphone. Doesn't much matter, though since it gets to your brain so much quicker and then becomes hydromorphone.
So even if P has 1/2 the potency of D, but P becomes D rapidly, it doesn't much matter, right?
still, I've now had the opportunity to try dilaudid (insufflated, though) I can only imagine how much nicer the heroin-analogue would be.
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