mosquitos

[Coddfish]

This may sound like a dumb question because it is. Does anyone else notice that they don't get bitten by mosquitos when they're on Methadone or other opiates? This has puzzled me for some time.

[HiJacked]

Yes indeed! I've often seen entire Narcotics Annonymous meetings filled with and even once hosted by the little bloodsuckers. :D I think they prefer their own mosquito opiate derivitives. Why bite you and get sloppy seconds of your human trash meds, when they probably have their own insect opiate industry. Shit theyre built perfect for tapping the pods for its latex and I'm sure them hella big mosquitos,(Mosquitohawks I believe), are running the pharmaceutical end of the industry.

:mad: Hell, just wait till the feds find out about this crap. Tax it and regulate it wont be an option for bugs. No money in playing god with their medications. What a world we live in.:D

[GMorris]

Damn, them suckers is everwhar 'roun here, and I don't recall being 'skeeter bit in many years! Never dreamed it was due to the opiates though, I just thought I was way lucky...

[SomniGod]

When I lived in Africa.... I would be outdoors with 25+ Africans..... maybe 2 or 3 of them were bit by mosquitoes during the entire 2 1/2 hours outside. Me?!?! 40-50 bites all over me.... damn it was hard being the only 20 yr old whiteboy where I was at!!! (Not in any racial sense....I was treated very well, with respect when respect was shown--- i learned quite a bit of Yoruba....one of the nations' tribal languages...they respected that I took the time to get in with the culture...I think, anyway. Well, that was a long drawn out story about how I would get attacked by mosquitos....oh and I had goodies in my system at the time



~S~

[skeletontea]

This may sound like a dumb question because it is. Does anyone else notice that they don't get bitten by mosquitos when they're on Methadone or other opiates? This has puzzled me for some time.
Once when I was out at my grandparents on hydrocodone, I didn't even notice if mosquitos were biting me. Does that count?;)

That is a curious observation however. I'm gonna' do a search for info on this. I expect to find no results.:(
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edit: "Methadone was a potent inhibitor of mosquito AO. activity, whilst SKF-525A was a poorer inhibitor." http://pcwww.liv.ac.uk/~hranson/coleman%20a.pdf (http://pcwww.liv.ac.uk/%7Ehranson/coleman%20a.pdf)

That's all I could find. Somni mentioned that the mosquitoes didn't seem to mind other opiates in his system (at least in Africa). Could there be something methadone specific that mosquitos can sense (namely the reduction of Aldehyde Oxidase activity)? Or is it Coddfish's imagination? Perhaps if anyone wants to expirement with this at great risk to personal comfort, be my guest.

Edit: fixed a rather stupid sleep-deprived error I made.

[expo]

When I go to Vermont in the summer I always bring my goods with me and I always get bit.

[Coddfish]

Once when I was out at my grandparents on hydrocodone, I didn't even notice if mosquitos were biting me. Does that count?;)

That is a curious observation however. I'm gonna' do a search for info on this. I expect to find no results.:(
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edit: "Methadone was a potent inhibitor of mosquito AO. activity, whilst SKF-525A was a poorer inhibitor." http://pcwww.liv.ac.uk/~hranson/coleman%20a.pdf

That's all I could find. Somni mentioned that the mosquitoes didn't seem to mind other opiates in his system (at least in Africa). Could there be something methadone specific that mosquitos can sense (namely the reduction of Alcohol Oxidase activity)? Or is it Coddfish's imagination? Perhaps if anyone wants to expirement with this at great risk to personal comfort, be my guest.
Thanks all for your input. GMo, are you on meth? HiJacked? Maybe meth is the answer. I have been in places where other people are getting swarmed, but I get not a bite. Now I think of it, I have been on meth off and on for a long time, and that was probably in my system when I noticed my immunity. Interesting stuff for a nerd like myself.
Skel--I couldn't download that page, could you give me the gist of it? Thanks

[skeletontea]

Skel--I couldn't download that page, could you give me the gist of it? Thanks

It goes a bit beyond my basic high school science background, but it appears to be documenting a search for a more effective pesticide for pesticide-resistant mosquitoes. The insects being discussed have an amplified Aldehyde Oxidase enzyme, which is suspected of increasing their resistance to certain pesticides. From what I can gather, methadone's role as an AO inhibitor is being tested for the purpose of weakening their defenses (that's my best guess, the document is really quite technical.) (Methadone also happened to show the most favorable results.)

Whatever their method of administration, I can't imagine this choice would be economically feasible, or wise,....then again, scientists often waste valuable resources trying to determine if something is possible, before they consider if it is a good idea. (I once saw a study in which a scientist stapled dozens of rats to a large piece of plywood in order to see which ones died first. I'm not even aware of the scientist having a valid hypothesis, yet he managed to recieve funding.)

I'm sure Bogumil, or someone else with a chemistry background could better interpret the document. I'm not sure if this relates to your experience in anyway (though there is my completely uneducated theory vaguely stated in an earlier post.)

Edit: fixed a rather stupid sleep-deprived error I made.

[duke_nemmerle]

This definitely warrants some further investigation. It's not skeeter season here in any sense of the word(freezing) but let us know if you find anything out!

[HiJacked]

Thanks all for your input. GMo, are you on meth? HiJacked? Maybe meth is the answer.

If you were asking me if im on meth, i'd have to say yes to both of the meths that I be on. Daily I'm now at 100mg. and as of that posting up there where I envisioned all mosquito-kind being its own self serving opiate producing population......errr...Guilty! of being a tad on the amphetamine version of the meth you were inquiring if i be on.

Long story short......Yeah!

[milky_tears]

Wow, this is so strange, I recently went away for a week, to a hot, humid mosquito filled area. Usually, I get bitten to pieces when there are mozzies about, but the whole time I was there I didn't get bitten once!!! The person I was with got eaten alive as per usual and we were puzzled by the fact I was spared and wondered what the reason was...
Now, reading this thread, I realise that this was the first time I've been abroad to hot humid climes since being on a daily methadone dose!!!
Interesting!!!

P.S. If anyone needs/wants to go to a country where methadone isn't permitted, buy a liter of cheap mouthwash, empty it out and have minty meth for a week or so!!!

[devilsdrug]

i dont get bit but every once in a while , i also dont get bit by ticks either when some are around and on the other note many moons ago swim had the done come into county jail in the shampoo bottlein a care package, had forgotten alll about that till reading previous post.

[Coddfish]

This is interesting stuff, I aint on the stuff no more, so I cant add any anectdodal evidence, but I wil do some research. Skelly's post above prabably hits the mark. Now we have to figure out how exploit this info. Any ideas?

[duke_nemmerle]

I still can't get over how cool this could be. A cure for ectoparasites as well?!! Wow is there nothing our little friend can't do?

[Coddfish]

bump. any thoughts from people who weren't here back then?

i still can't find any corroborating evidence, but i still believe it. for the m'done anyway.

[nick]

Never get bit.......says a lot about how desirable my blood is huh.

[underide]

Never get bit.......says a lot about how desirable my blood is huh.

I didn't think there were actually any mosquitos in England.
There are none in Ireland. Just some annoying midgets out in the countryside.
When i visit the continent during the summer i get reminded just how bad the mosquitos are. They seem to bite the hell out of me.

[nick]

I didn't think there were actually any mosquitos in England.
There are none in Ireland. Just some annoying midgets out in the countryside.
When i visit the continent during the summer i get reminded just how bad the mosquitos are. They seem to bite the hell out of me.

I think mosquitos have arrived in Southern England(thank you global warming) but I meant I've used dope while traveling and I've never been in bitten in any of the 5 continents I've passed through.

Oh and plenty of other bitting insects here too.

[More Feen]

Wild Guess:

Mosquitos are attracted to the Carbon Dioxide blown-off by animals.

Opiates decrease respiratory rate.

People on opiates are blowing off less CO2 than others.

I'm sure this is pure bullshit, but it sounds like it could work.

But when the 'skeetos are swarming (having already located prey) they would bite anyone indescrimantly (sp?).

So possibly the opiate user is more difficult for the insects to detect, but once they've found you, you are fair game.

P.S. I'd love to see a mosquito draw blood from someone with a really high tolerance, with a very high blood-level of their DOC, and to see the mosquito drop dead from an OD.

[ZodiacKiller]

There are none in Ireland. Just some annoying midgets out in the countryside.
They seem to bite the hell out of me.

You mean to say there are lots of "little people" roaming about randomly biting people? Wow, Ireland is a weird country, man......:cool:



ZK

[nick]

[quote=ZodiacKiller;270133]You mean to say there are lots of "little people" roaming about randomly biting people? Wow, Ireland is a weird country, man......:cool:
ZK[quote]

You don't know the half of it.

Oh and zed thanks for noticing the "midgets",that's the funniest thing I've read since ........well for sometime.

[DCBA]

Didn't know methadone was a pesticide, now i know.. It kills mosquitos larva..

About the mosquitos and methadone... i started on methadone 3 months ago and haven't been bitten, and the mosquitos are now becoming much commom in here cause of the heat.

[underide]

You mean to say there are lots of "little people" roaming about randomly biting people? Wow, Ireland is a weird country, man......:cool:



ZK


Yep, that's what we call those annoying, tiny insects that come out in swarms at night. I think the 'proper' scientific term for them is 'sandfly'
I would have thought this term was used in other English-speaking countries. Guess not

[but damn, i probably was thinking THAT :p]

[nick]

Yep, that's what we call those annoying, tiny insects that come out in swarms at night. I think the 'proper' scientific term for them is 'sandfly'
I would have thought this term was used in other English-speaking countries. Guess not

[but damn, i probably was thinking THAT :p]

Are you sure you don't mean midges,man?

[underide]

Are you sure you don't mean midges,man?

This is what most people over here seem to actually call those little insects - 'midgets'
It may well be a specifically local colloquial variation of 'midges' i guess.
Or maybe i'm just dumb :o (you know, a good portion of the population on this island is actually dyslexic. And even though i'm not entirely local, i guess i may be too)

here's something from the net which further perplexes me though:
have a look at this page here:

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/midget




midget (plural: midgets (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/midgets))


(originally) a little sand-fly (http://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=sand-fly&action=edit&redlink=1) Although tiny and just two-winged, midgets can bite you manyfold till you itch all over your unprotected skin
(loosely) Any small swarming insect similar to the mosquito (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/mosquito); a midge (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/midge)
A normally proportioned person with small stature, usually defined as reaching an adult height less than 4'10".
(derogatory) A short (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/short) person.
(attributively (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/attributively)) That is a small version of something; miniature (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/miniature) the midget pony

[nick]

This is what most people over here seem to actually call those little insects - 'midgets'
It may well be a specifically local colloquial variation of 'midges' i guess.
Or maybe i'm just dumb :o (you know, a good portion of the population on this island is actually dyslexic. And even though i'm not entirely local, i guess i may be too)

here's something from the net which further perplexes me though:
have a look at this page here:

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/midget




midget (plural: midgets (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/midgets))


(originally) a little sand-fly (http://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=sand-fly&action=edit&redlink=1) Although tiny and just two-winged, midgets can bite you manyfold till you itch all over your unprotected skin
(loosely) Any small swarming insect similar to the mosquito (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/mosquito); a midge (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/midge)
A normally proportioned person with small stature, usually defined as reaching an adult height less than 4'10".
(derogatory) A short (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/short) person.
(attributively (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/attributively)) That is a small version of something; miniature (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/miniature) the midget pony


That's interesting.So,the midgets(human) are named after midgets(the insect).It's amazing how language changes(apart from Ireland).

I never thought I'd be discussing the history of the term midgets when I got up this morning.

[underide]

That's interesting.So,the midgets(human) are named after midgets(the insect).It's amazing how language changes(apart from Ireland).

I never thought I'd be discussing the history of the term midgets when I got up this morning.

I know..And it even rhymes with eejit (irish version/colloq. of 'idiot')...

Now, eejit is some classic Irish colloquial for you :D love that word!