very strange vicodin wd and anesthesia experience

[opiobsessed]

I thought I might share my strange experience to see if anyone else experienced this or knows why this happened. Last year I ran out of vicodin(was taking 15 a day 10/500 watson540)at the worst time, right before our nice weeklong family vacation. Withdrawal set in within 24 hours and we were leaving the next day, so what do I do? I drank half a bottle of mad dog md 20/20 with hopes to kill the wd and flush it out of my system. I felt even worse hangovers later that day and wd still not any better after I sobered up. The next day we were on our way, me suffering worse by the hour. Long story short,the wd started subsiding 2 or 3 days before we went back home. When we got home that day, two days later I was scheduled to have a one day exam under anesthesia(think I spelled it right)I have this done once a year because of my medical disability(long story). I was happy as a clam because when I get home from the hospital I have to rush home because my lovely pills will be waiting for me and my own vacation will start once again and I will feel real good again. As I'm getting prepped for the operating room, I just can't stop grinning thinking about that lovely juice killing the wd I suffered all weeklong. After I wake up and come to, they do the normal stuff etc and I'm on my way. As I'm on the ride home from the hospital, I start feeling normal again. I get home and luckily my pills are ready, Luckily I knew as much as I did about opium back then because what was about to happen would have maybe killed me if I had taken my normal 5 pills at once. On a hunch that my receptors might be cleaned out totally I play it safe and take just one 10/500 and within 20 mins WOW I'm flying as good as the first day I ever took one vicodin in my life. I sat there soaking in the lovely warmth and cozy happy feeling like I enjoyed all along in the beginning. Like someone who has only 6 hours to live I suck up every moment of comfort I'm taking in and it lasted like 4 hours before I even had to take another pill. Keep in mind, I had been taking vicodin off and on since Jan of that year and it was June now. My tolerance was strong to me at having to take 5 pills at a time just to get same buzz as one pill, now all of a sudden my tolerance is washed clean. However my lovely fun only lasted about two days and I quickly had to move up to 5 pills once again, main point of my lovely memory and story which I hope you all enjoyed reading. How can I acheive this tolerance again? also another strange thing, just this year when I went in for my same hospital procedure only this time I'm almost fresh out of rehab and on 4 mg daily of suboxone, I woke up that time feeling fair and horrible wd setting in 3 hours after I came out of anesthesia only this time no vicodin to take, just suboxone. But when I took my subs after this hospital visit I felt just normal again. If only I had vicodin this time around would I have experienced the same thing as before?

[Coddfish]

So, you went several days between the vics? Am I reading that right? If so I can only suggest what happened through relating my own experience. After several days of WD's, when things are starting to return to normal I find my body and my brain LOOOVES any little opiate. I feel like a light weight newbie even though it wouuld only take me a few days to get back to my old levels. My guess is the body is in some sort of flux with respect to endorphin production that makes it particularly sensitive to our little pals. Or not. I'm pretty much talking out my arse, but it makes sense to me. maybe some of the medical experts have better stuff?

[GMorris]

Well, as long as I've been opiated I have little hope of EVER going back to day 1, but I have noticed that after my last dose of the day, around 7pm, and I go to sleep, the next day when I get up (generally 12 - 14 hours later), that first little blast will often slam me! Not always, but sometimes. I just chalk it up to the fact that the body is mysterious and at times will metabolize the stuff a little differently. It IS a great feeling though when that first blast gives me that good old feeling that I used to enjoy so much. I really don't know how to recapture that first time again except to just go through w/d and get as clean as possible. I imagine then a little would go a long way, I'm just not that adventurous anymore if you know what I mean.

[duke_nemmerle]

So, you went several days between the vics? Am I reading that right? If so I can only suggest what happened through relating my own experience. After several days of WD's, when things are starting to return to normal I find my body and my brain LOOOVES any little opiate. I feel like a light weight newbie even though it wouuld only take me a few days to get back to my old levels. My guess is the body is in some sort of flux with respect to endorphin production that makes it particularly sensitive to our little pals. Or not. I'm pretty much talking out my arse, but it makes sense to me. maybe some of the medical experts have better stuff?

I've found the same thing. I think opiate tolerance seems to rapidly diminish(at least within myself) Of course it helps to get endorphin production closer to baseline as well(by abstaining a bit) that way you can have them there for your rush

[opiobsessed]

good point about the wd and stuff, I never thought of that before. On the other hand like the last poster stated, for some reason our bodies sometimes get a good "kick" once in a while even when we dont clean up the receptors for a bit. That reminds me of my suboxone I'm on now, its my last thread of hope for now to keep something cozy in the receptors until I score another buzz sometime down the road. I've been on sub since March of this year and have a good tolerance to it now, however my morning dose usually always feels much better than the evening and before bed dose. I guess I'm one of the lucky ones who used to get a pretty nice buzz from sub when I first started, I however would have quit within a week though if it wasn't for my body responding to any opiate as the only real antidepressant on the market that works for me. Just like every firm believer in opium however, I'm pissed at the stupid facist laws of this over rated USA like most likely alot of others here. Sorry for a little rant but some days I get so enraged thinking about how opiate users are treated like crap etc and its even worse when you are not only an opiate person but have a mental disability on top of that. To this day disabled people are treated almost like they are in concentration camps and I'm fed up with it. Sick of being harassed, intimidated and burnt, then the general people wonder, hmmm howcome I hate people and shut them out of my life? because people are out to burn me and make me feel like crap, my only true friend is my buddy opium and his nice relatives.

[msdope]

When I used, and actually would save a Lortab for a wake up it almost always gave me a sweet little jump. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. Interesting stuff.

Opi, you mentioned opiates as antidepressants. Here, here. There's many, many people who use opiates for that very reason alone.

The hell with those SSRI's. Plus no high.

[duke_nemmerle]

When I used, and actually would save a Lortab for a wake up it almost always gave me a sweet little jump. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. Interesting stuff.

Opi, you mentioned opiates as antidepressants. Here, here. There's many, many people who use opiates for that very reason alone.

The hell with those SSRI's. Plus no high.

Most "hard drugs" are pretty damned effective as anti-depressants(most of them have the condition of staying high though) Seems that's ubiquitous among any community of drug users, them promoting their drug as an anti-depressant. Not that's it's wrong, it's actually probably true that one or another illicit drug is going to really click with a given person, more the reason that more research and less prohibition should be the maxim of the future(hell if I was getting banged up on like a fentanyl drip for the rest of my life I'd probably never be depressed :))