detoxing....

[jayemp420]

well, sobriety and withdrawal have both set in and i have no money no shit no vehicle and no more pills nothing at all.....im done using this shit for now anyways i need to atleast detox does anyoen have any suggestions for things to do while u detox???

[ProdigalSon]

This sounds bad but run, pull ups, sit ups, push ups, up downs, run some more. Keep yourself active as hell even though its so hard to imagine. Everything hurting and shit.

I said it in another post but if you can grab some poppy seeds and make tea...

Nothing really will help man...Im sorry to say. at least those up there if you really go through with it and beat the shit outta yourself, youll sleep at night. And itll keep your mind off it.

Always booze too...

[chopstix]

How long have you been using and how much? If this is your first time then you'll be fine in a couple days..

Exercise is great but kinda hard when you're puking and shitting your pants.

You have to understand that if you take any opiate at all, you're just prolonging it. That said, most people with experience will "taper" their habits down to help ease wd, the less you use when quit, the easier it'll be and vice-versa..

Benzos help, weed can help pass time, immodium helps the shits (and some say WD) but only time will bring your natural endorphins back..

[antigonemuse]

you can always check in for a three day detox at a local clinic/hospital, ect...

[betmylife]

just do something to keep your mind off it, I detoxed a few weeks ago and it sucked.....anyways, there is alot of info on here and other websites that will make you feel better.....but get used to being really fucking bored....I still am, it blows.....peace


BML

[underide]

EDITED - Not necessary

[chopstix]

Yeah, for me the long term boredom and insomnia are the worst. You might ask around and see if there are any junky friendly doctors around; usually they'll prescribe a "kick kit" with at least clonidine and phenergan and sometimes benzos if you're lucky. I'd pay cash though, you don't want that shit documented..

Sex, booze, weed, movies, books, and as much exercise as you can tolerate... Better have an understanding partner for the sex thing though 'cause at first you'll have the longevity of a 19 year old, wait you are 19.. Sorry.. :)

[GOLD N DIEMONDS]

well if you are in the first 72 hours of WDs, I highly recommend Immodium (Loperimide).
Like a lot of it, take 15-20 tablet at first, follow with 1/2 dozen 5-6 hours later. It truly worked for me when I was very bad off 24 hours into WD, felt like I was knocking on deaths door. It not going to make you "well" , but reduces the misery by 15-20% (if I had to put a number on it). Anything at that point feels like a miracle, and with it's cheap price and readily available, it really is a miracle drug. Search here for threads in regards to.


blow your brains out!
NOT NICE! :mad:
This was actually a serious consideration for me, until I tried the above Immodium regime. Was enough relief physically and mentally (cognitive thinking) that I was able to put the .357 back in the nightstand where it belonged!

[Duckfeet]

Jay: I can only tell u what I did, u know, may seem stupid to a lot of people, but it's only thing that every has worked, and actually goes again common sense, my atheist beliefs, everything.

First, as previous poster said, get in detox, if possible. Next, if that doesn't work, get the fuck away from source of drugs...I went three states away, even tho I ended up broke in N.Florida, at least I didn't know where to cop. Lived on coffee and cookies for a few days.

And finally, and I'll probably get clobbered or scorned for this, but anyway, I went to AA meetings, clubhouse that had meetings every few hours in Ocala FL...talked to people...at least they clapped and encouraged me. That worked actually for a few years, and has worked a couple times, when I was serious.... I mean, 4-5 meetings a day, raise yer hand, tell'em you're a newcomer. I guess NA would be more appropriate for drugs, but I just always felt better in AA, than NA, but it might be because I"m older, I don't know. I've never much liked NA. And by the way, I"m not even claiming these things are true or meaningful...just that they help, and you need all the help you can get, since your own *brain* will be working against you...

Main thing is to get ruthless, you know, put getting clean and sober ahead of everything. Get off this website if it fucks with your head, do *whatever.* Fuck, pray!, try anything...it's serious shit, and, IMO, most don't make it, so give it everything, and of course, best wishes...fighing this shit is *also* part of being a junky.

May not seem like it, Jay, but nineteen is pretty young to be in such a mess, probably why I enlisted in the army, a million years ago, so I really do wish you well, and hope you can escape this madness, because the longer you're at it, the harder it is to get out of...

Good luck.

--duckfeet

[nick]

wd is a lonely road..........much luck.

[RxQueen]

it's good to see you're trying to change things! i've seen in your other threads that you're also using lots of benzos... are you kicking those at the same time as the H? because if you are, you need to be aware that it is actually dangerous to cold-turkey off those things, depending on how long you've been taking them. a CT kick from opiates will make you wanna die, but a CT kick from benzos can make that wish come true, or at least send you into grand mal seizures. please be sure to taper yourself down from the benzos rather than stopping abruptly... search the site for many good threads about how to do it.

and good luck to ya... i really hope you can get your shit together. kicking a habit is horrible, but not near as horrible as throwing your whole life down the shitter at nineteen.

[Ragdoll]

Yep. What Ducky said I also recommend. And would add that, depending upon your inclinations, you might pick up a book on, say Buddhist teachings about mindfulness and begin reading and practicing meditation & breathing techniques. The thing to remember is that getting high is fun and easy, while not getting high and living with normal unhappiness & boredom takes hard work and commitment.

Best of everything to you, you're a good guy, Jay.

[Moonrock]

If it's your first time, then i highly recommend checking yourself into a detox clinic for a few days. They will take care of you, plus you'll learn how to cope with wd (like a crash course), so in your future wdS, you'd be more prepared.
Much luck mate.
Don't worry, you'll sweat it away..............................eventually.

[pharmboy]

Valium, lots of Valium

Ive done the WD five or six times,It was always
worse with out Valium. Clonidene helps too.
Hang in there. . . Good Luck

[ProdigalSon]

blow your brains out!

Winner of the smallest cock in Ireland now has the trophy for biggest asshole

[Saint]

well, sobriety and withdrawal have both set in and i have no money no shit no vehicle and no more pills nothing at all.....im done using this shit for now anyways i need to atleast detox does anyoen have any suggestions for things to do while u detox???

I'm detoxing as well - went from 70 to 10 mgs of methadone - and still have to go to work (which sucks but it does take my mind of things). What I do is take huge amounts of vitamines, proteines, fruits, water and all the other stuff you have probably heard a thousand boring times before. But I actually never did this on my former WD-attempts and it seems to help a little bit..
IF I feel up to it I push myself to do some exercise, ride a bike, go for a little walk (but 99% of the time I'm definitely NOT up to it, I just ly on the couch when I'm not working).

The next stage is getting as many valiums and seraxs in the house as I can possibly get my hands on and buy a weeks supply of yogurth, juice, fruits.. anything that I can stand without throwing up + a lot of cigarets.. (cigs taste horrible when you are in WD's but I just have to smoke..).
I also stock up on DVD's and lots of books: I like to read.
And I only watch things on tv that make me feel better (which isn't very much).
Sex helps.. and then a shower and then some more etc... you don't need a partner to relax a little. Hell, get some pornmovies if you're into that. Whatever makes you feel better is allowed as long as you don't bother anyone else with it.

I know what you mean by the boredom and insomnia. Lying in bed all night, yawning and then that nervous restless feeling, twitching legs... being wide awake for hours on end..
Hit by that typical gloomy feeling that only Withdrawals can give you, the opressive thoughts... it sucks bigtime.

Hope you're doing well - or better at least... (& I wish anyone who's in WD-s good luck)

[Duckfeet]

Sounds terrible: I don't know if I'll ever detox again...one day I'm going to stock up on methadone, then fly to England and camp outside some clinic that provides heroin maintenance until they accept me. Of all the things that I have encountered in my long life, the one survivor is my increasing inablity to detox off of opiates. I wish you'all the very best...me, I'm stuck on the shit. Me old brain is too fried and frightened without it. :-(

I'm detoxing as well - went from 70 to 10 mgs of methadone - and still have to go to work (which sucks but it does take my mind of things). What I do is take huge amounts of vitamines, proteines, fruits, water and all the other stuff you have probably heard a thousand boring times before. But I atually never this on my former WD-attempts and it actually seems to help a little..
IF I feel up to it I push myself to do some exercise, ride a bike, go for a little walk (but 99% of the time I'm definitely NOT up to it, I just ly on the couch when I'm not working).

The next stage is getting as many valiums and seraxs in the house as I can possibly get my hands on and buy a weeks supply of yogurth, juice, fruits.. anything that I can stand without throwing up + a lot of cigarets.. (cigs taste horrible when you are in WD's but I just have to smoke..).
I also stock up on DVD's and lots of books: I like to read.
And I only watch things on tv that make me feel better (which isn't very much).
Sex helps.. and then a shower and then some more etc... you don't need a partner to relax a little. Hell, get some pornmovies if you're into that. Whatever makes you feel better.
is allowed as long as you don't bother anyone else with it.
I know what you mean by the boredom and insomnia. Lying in bed all night, yawning and then that nervous restless feeling, twitching legs... wide awake for hours on end..
Hit by that typical gloomy feeling that only Withdrawals can give you, the opressive thoughts... it sucks bigtime.

Hope you're doing well - or better at least... (& I wish anyone who's in WD-s good luck)

[Saint]

Well, like I said: if subs won't work for me I will stay on methadone for life. After 24 years I'm getting tired of the struggle too. And getting older doesn't exactly make it any easier..
I'm not even planning to taper the subs either. After this I'm done with WD-s.
I just want to feel relatively ok and painfree so I can travel again, live on a little income, have a purring cat that curls up at my feet at night and some good friends to go out with.

Anything it takes, as long as it's not back to the IV - no money - no friends - no job - depression hell. I'm glad I'm out of that scene for a long time now. But I'll always be a junky, no use denying that.
I will always have to watch out for that little monkey creeping up on me.
So let's just make the best of it while we can. There's a beautiful world out there and I still plan on seeing a lot more of it. So if a few weeks of WD-s is what it takes to do that I'm prepared to give it one last shot.

(shit, just re-read my post: that last sentence wasn't meant litteraly ;-)

[NastyZilla]

Winner of the smallest cock in Ireland now has the trophy for biggest asshole


BWAHAHAHAHAHA! ProdigalSon, you kill me! No pun intended, that is. Damn, that was a good one.

Jay, I wish you the best, but your heart isn't in detox. I know that the minute you can get enough money to score, you'll do it. You have to be committed to really want to be clean, like Duckfeet was describing. I've been truly committed twice, the other times failed within days. Don't get me wrong... I've eventually ALWAYS failed (I wouldn't be here otherwise), but for a few months at a time I've pulled it off. I could feel the difference those times, versus the weekends where I just didn't have enough shit to get through w/out at least mild w/ds.

Are you committed to getting clean, at least for awhile? Or are you gonna post later today or tomorrow that you scored again?

If you're committed, then spent any money you might find on some benzodiazepines like valium, take 5mgs to 10mg every four hours plus immodium as others have described. If you're not committed? Well, the advice is probably the same... but don't keep coming back here crying about getting clean and detoxing.

I feel for you, man. Been there, done cold turkey and don't EVER want that again.

[AZJunkie]

Freudian slip. my euro-friend......

[underide]

Freudian slip. my euro-friend......

Is it really, now, professor??

[kazman32]

Sorry, we have all been there and know what your going through.

[tui]

Baths... baths... baths
add epsom salts to them to help with the rls kicks.

chicken apparantly has something in it that helps with w/ds...

funny, silly, easy dvds.

any and all benzos you can get.

mum or girlfriend.

good luck and remember... It DOES get better.

t


p.s.
I thought that whoever said "blow yer brains out" was pretty funny... it's so bloody hard to tell when someone's joking on the internet... but that's def how i feel when i'm withdrawing... ack

[youwonhundred]

Winner of the smallest cock in Ireland now has the trophy for biggest asshole

According to this Irish chick I know, irish dudes already have the smallest cocks in the known universe (4 inches max, she said) so to have the smallest in ireland.... damn, poor dude would have to worry about pissing on his fingers.

[underide]

According to this Irish chick I know, irish dudes already have the smallest cocks in the known universe (4 inches max, she said) so to have the smallest in ireland.... damn, poor dude would have to worry about pissing on his fingers.
Yo AZ!
how's that for a Freudian slip!?

[underide]

All this cock talk reminds me of a great South Park episode:

>applies cliche Japanese accent< "Yor penis is SO BIG, SO BIG, HUMONGASU!!!"

[pharmboy]

ya know what sucks about WD?

The more you do it, it still doesnt get any easier.

It sucks the chrome of a cadillac EVERY time.

[jayemp420]

been 7 days now clean ... well last wednesday i did my last small shot in the morning so just about 7 days clean....i think im through the worst of it, which for me is the leg problems and insomnia (major lower leg pain and restless legs syndrome and major problems sleeping).... and no this isnt my first time kicking dope... i might only be 19 but ive been IVing dope since i was 15 and ive kicked like 10 times and been in a methadone clinic for a year which i dont goto anymore cus i had insurance tha tpaid for it and i lost my job when i was dopesick a few weeks ago.....i know ill never stay away from this shit forever and its only a matter of time before i get some money and get shit...i dont know, i wish shit was legal man, wouldnt that be nice

[Narkotikon]

Sorry to hear that you're detoxing, but glad that it's getting better for you.

I'm not one to say that you shouldn't do something. I think the key is to try to just use it once in a while. I know that's harder than it sounds. If you stay off of it for a while, and let your brain get back to normal, then about two months down the line, you can do it once, then skip a week, then do it again. Well, maybe you can't. I guess it really depends on the person. I like to do it all the time too, and if I had the money of Brittney Spears I would be, but I don't, so I don't. I used last Wednesday with pods after having 60 days clean. Wednesday was great. Thursday I felt like shit, but it wasn't a physical sickness like you get when you use for so long, it was just a psychological shittiness. On Friday I was fine though. I think that's the key. If I can keep that up, I'd say opies are in my future. That' the problem though, maintaining that balance. Because sooner or later I'd say I'm going to get greedy and use on that second day.

But, onto w/d.

Yes, the leg-aches / RLS and the insomnia are bitches. You want to just walk right up to them, give them the hand, and bitch slap the fuck out of them.

I'm sure you already know most of this, but here goes:

B Vitamins (Centrum works just fine, but you could also get plain B Vitamins)

Immodium for GI problems

Benzos for leg aches / insomnia / anxiety

Weed for the same (see above)

Alcohol for the same (see above--that is, if you're not so nauseated that you can stomach it. Plus, this may help initially with sleep, but it won't keep you asleep)

Muscle relaxers for the legs

Clonidine for the overall general w/d. Actually, I don't think this stuff does much other than lower your blood pressure, but doctors seem to think it's a magic w/d cure. It's NOT.

Phenergan for nausea.

Other than that, time is the only sure fix.

But, once you get past the physical part, be prepared for the intense, never-ending boredome. I can't stand that. That's what did me in.

[jayemp420]

and yeah i havnet been taking ANYTHING besides occasional weed smoke, cigarettes, and one a day 'mens health' multivitamin. havnet had much of an appetite but i force myself to eat and try to eat healthy and i had ativan klonopin and catapres but i was using alot for the week or two i had that stuff....got no more benzos dont want no more benzos anyway. and yeah, i know, i will use again and the only reason i havent really is because no money.

[Duckfeet]

Well, see how u feel in a few days. Most people when they start kicking, seem to plan on kicking "for good," but the longer they're at it, the less inclined we are towards staying away altogether, and before u know it, copping dope makes all kinds of sense, once again ;-)

Anyway, glad ur doin'g o.k. Kicking is also part of our wonderful world, probably right besides jail as one of the worst things about being a dopefiend...

df


and yeah i havnet been taking ANYTHING besides occasional weed smoke, cigarettes, and one a day 'mens health' multivitamin. havnet had much of an appetite but i force myself to eat and try to eat healthy and i had ativan klonopin and catapres but i was using alot for the week or two i had that stuff....got no more benzos dont want no more benzos anyway. and yeah, i know, i will use again and the only reason i havent really is because no money.

[AZJunkie]

BAHAHAHHA!!!!! That was a slip and a fall!!! I cant get the image of some skinny Iriish kid sprinkling all over himself....."Honey, grab the chopsticks!!"

[entrenous]

I've never detoxed off heroin but I have off many OC's and 'dones... I just can't quit cold turkey. I would seriously rather "blow my brains out", I just can't cope with it. I usually ween myself off a little (mostly a lot) with lesser opiates before finally cutting it. Then its so much easier.

With that said, that may not work for most people and you'll just be hurting yourself more. Some people need to quit CT to detox and get clean.

So I guess point being, if you feel like your going to die and you can't even go to work/school, then you should try to ween yourself off to help with all the cramps and zero energy. Thats my biggest issue, I just have ZERO energy, I have to stay in bed all day. And my job doesn't like that... stupid job....

[underide]

I cant get the image of some skinny Iriish kid sprinkling all over himself


No? Try some homosexual pornsite, there should be lots of them on the net nowadays.
Maybe they'll have it.

good luck

[The_Highwayman]

Pray..............

[Oxydation]

Reminds me of my first "Detox." I simply ran out of every type of entertainment (Opiod-type) I enjoy...and I thought I could handle it. I actually did check into a Detox Center because the WD were too much to deal with at the time. However, my dosages were quite high and for quite a length of time.

I agree with the other folks on here though...keep busy, especially physically if you can stand it. Shortly, not immediately, you will begin to feel better and physical activity along with lots of liquids and a decent diet will put you back on track with the 'normies.' Unfortunately, now that I have cleaned up, I am once again looking for more entertainment.

Best of luck to ya!