Ephederine

[AWOL]

back to legal status or not, someone fill me in? Been hearing back and forth for a while (in the media ofcourse)

[Narkotikon]

I'm going to say no, but I honestly don't know. I gave up buying mini-thins (the kind that had 25mg ephedrine and 50mg caffeine) back in 2002. I'm also going to say no because they're really trying to crack down on methamphetamines now, and isn't ephedrine used to make that shit?

[kazman32]

You can buy it at any drug store/pharmacy I get mine from Kroger's they know extacly what I want as soon as I walk up, Bronkaid is the brand I get mostly 25mg ephedrine hci per tab. around $6 and some change, have to sign a little slip so they know your not cooking up meth.

[mrklean]

You can get them in just about every gas station everywhere where I am and travel anyways. You can buy ephedrine containing botanicals online as well. I think purchases are pretty heavily monitored but defi not illegal. yet

[OxyContinuously]

As far as I know, ephedrine went through some hoops, legally.

At first, Oklahoma was the first to schedule it, I believe, and a lot of states followed suit. Stacker 2 became crap, losing it's balls, because NY at least where I live had some problems with ephedrine...That was a couple years ago...

Now, a lot of states have lifted that restriction but it is "behind the counter." And you can only buy a certain amount, etc. etc....

And on that note, some states like Connecticut (where I work) *never* scheduled ephedrine in the first place. So I guess it depends on where you go...Like someone above me said, he buys it at Kroger.

In NY, I can't find it at 7-11 anymore (remember the "Yellow Jackets" and "Purple Passion"?) and the Stacker pills in NY seem to have cut out the ephedrne, but if I go to a "Mrs.Green's" or a Vitamin store for example, I can still find it in the "25 milligram per capsule, 50 count" bottles..

And yes, like the OP said, ephedrine is key in making meth.

Short chemistry lesson: all methamphetamine really is, is the reduction of ephedrine, dropping an oxygen atom, pretty much in a nutshell. Ephedrine is "C10H15NO" and meth is "C10H15N" If you look at the structures for both compounds, you'll see the only difference is that ephedrine has an -OH (hydroxy) and meth does not...easy process too, so that's why there was a frenzy over ephedrine

later guys
peace out

Oxy

[aj11]

In Missouri it is heavily controlled. You can buy 2 boxes of said cold pills, every 6 months, have to show state Id each time puchasing them and when you start buying to many-drug task force is knocking down your door. the best place to get it is from chicken feed blocks

[GOLD N DIEMONDS]

CHICKEN FEED BLOCKS? can you please explain (as to why ephedrine is given to chickens) Thanks

[kazman32]

CHICKEN FEED BLOCKS? can you please explain (as to why ephedrine is given to chickens) Thanks


ephedrine is proven to burn fat and retain muscle mass, I'm an ex nat; level bodybuilder and the 'eca' stack has been used for many many years for bodybuilder's cutting up or for a pre-workout boost, I would venture a guess that it's to add lean mass to the chickens, the same way clenbuterol(another beta agonist drug) has been used in cattle to add lean mass.

[GOLD N DIEMONDS]

AH yes , makes sense. Knew you where bodybuilder when I saw a post somewhere you made about nubain, my DOC for many years ,back aways.

[kazman32]

AH yes , makes sense. Knew you where bodybuilder when I saw a post somewhere you made about nubain, my DOC for many years ,back aways.


yah I used the 'bain for quite a while (before I was heavy into opiates) it has a thermagenic effect/help cut appetite/blocked pain for training purposes, I inheritated my buddies stash when he passed (rip) part of which was 30 10cc bottles of bain....I prefer opiates nowday's...but I really am trying to get/stay clen with my suboxone. I like the drug, it puts me in a good mood/ward depression/and gives me that 'opiate energy'

[Hammilton]

boy, it's going way, way, way out on a limb to claim that nubain has any sort of thermogenic effect. It may decrease appetite, but no more than real opiates do. The partial agonists don't have that strong of an effect in that area

[mrklean]

ephedrine is proven to burn fat and retain muscle mass, I'm an ex nat; level bodybuilder and the 'eca' stack has been used for many many years for bodybuilder's cutting up or for a pre-workout boost, I would venture a guess that it's to add lean mass to the chickens, the same way clenbuterol(another beta agonist drug) has been used in cattle to add lean mass.

Sorry if this isn't really about the legality issue
I am not a bodybuilder but I would like to possibly include ephedrine to possibly help keep my weight down when I have to go longer than is ideal between workouts. Bulk is not compatible with the physical activities I most enjoy. What would be the ideal way(time, frequency, dose etc..) to use ephedrine? My problem tends to be looking like the incredible hulk when I need to look like Bruce Lee to be in top shape for the sports I enjoy. It seems like epherine could help me I am just not sure how to use it most effectively. I usually weigh about 195 what is a dose and how often?

[Synack]

Sorry if this isn't really about the legality issue
I am not a bodybuilder but I would like to possibly include ephedrine to possibly help keep my weight down when I have to go longer than is ideal between workouts. Bulk is not compatible with the physical activities I most enjoy. What would be the ideal way(time, frequency, dose etc..) to use ephedrine? My problem tends to be looking like the incredible hulk when I need to look like Bruce Lee to be in top shape for the sports I enjoy. It seems like epherine could help me I am just not sure how to use it most effectively. I usually weigh about 195 what is a dose and how often?
Nope, not me - I just want to make/sell meth on the local street corner and make millions and retire early.

p.s. I'm just kidding...

[GOLD N DIEMONDS]

The synergistic combination of ephedrine, caffeine and aspirin has a tried and prooven thermogenic effect. There is a specific ideal ratio of the three and doesn't really involve any crazy high doses of ephedrine. Also a high protein, high fat and low carb diet goes well with this ephy stack. I don't off hand remember the ratio, but I'm sure Kazman could weigh in on this. Or google it. I do remember that first things in the AM dose, followed by 20-30 minutes on the treadmill(or whatever), is a powerful fat burner. Good luck

[mrklean]

Synack, LOL I know. The few times I have bought them just to stay awake the lady at the gas station always looks at me like I'm a peice of shit. Granted, I am pretty grimy looking. Still it's like how much meth you think I'm making with 250mgs ephedrine? WTF? I just stayed up a little too late smoking fentanyl, and now I've gotta work, it's not like I do hard drugs like meth. jeeez

Thanks, Gold N Diemonds.

[limitless_euphoria]

back to legal status or not, someone fill me in? Been hearing back and forth for a while (in the media ofcourse)

You can buy it on the net. Trust me, SWIM did so just late last year. "Bronchease" I believe was the trade name. The caveat:as far as the law goes - they're just anal as fuck about it now because so many people use it to cook their home made meth.

A warning to those reading this thread: I got into it a LONG time ago cause of the people I was hanging around with... It actually was my gateway into cocaine because I liked being speedy in my late teens early twenties. To make a more colorful illustration: I liked having that ambition to go scrub my kitchen floor with a tooth brush at 3:30 AM in the morning while chainsmoking two packs of "Cowboy Killaz" in less than a day hehe... I mean, I used to take RIDICULOUS AMOUNTS of the shit. I'm talking 500 mg in one dosage in my hayday. It's a wonder the old ticker didn't go "KA-BOOOOOM-SPLAT" for cryin-out-loud!

Be careful with that stuff. If abused it can be as bad for you as hard drugs. People have had strokes, myocardial infarctions, seizures and the whole mess of probs. Plus it FUCKS your stomach up HARD CORE.