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sidman
08-20-2007, 12:36 PM
Yeah,you know the most tempting thing for me sometimes?
Even though I dont use opiates like I used to? ( Just pharm opies, once in a while)
Well, drug stores and hospitals and veterinarians around this state of mine deliver all there Pharmies(well..most of them) using a plain car and a dressed up salesman.
He/She gets outta the car and pops the trunk,grabs some boxes and just walks on into the delivery point.
SSShhhiiiiT !!
Pretty damn tempting if you ask me,but hey, I'm not trying to go back to prison, you know?

pharmboy
08-20-2007, 12:55 PM
Dont bother, those are most likely
manufacturers reps. Drug company sales
people who are just delivering a few boxes
of free samples to docs and pharmacies.
Thier not the big score. The big score is
in those little armored UPS trucks.:cool:

sidman
08-20-2007, 12:59 PM
Well that may be true for some of the stuff, but a nurse I know told me that they deliver some strong stuff to respite homes and convalescent homes also.
But I dont think I could do that to the old people..................
you know?

Black_Pony
08-20-2007, 12:59 PM
If you need a get away driver, count me in!

My buddy used to work at a Rite Aid which was undergoing a remodel that left the pharmacy surprisingly unprotected. He knew the alarm code and everything. His instinct of self preservation was greater than his desire to steal opies, however. A perfect opportunity lost.

A veterinarian is always a tempting target, too. As long as you dont fix and nod out inside like John Conner from T3. I guess my Mom used to hit up vets offices back in her junky days with her boyfriend at the time. They got caught and the guy took the fall for them both. Feeling indebted, she had to sneak in baloons for him for years after. Pretty sketchy work.

I wouldn't be surprised if the 'delivery guy' had a Mac 10 under his suit coat. This operation will need to be planned out to the letter.


Yeah,you know the most tempting thing for me sometimes?
Even though I dont use opiates like I used to? ( Just pharm opies, once in a while)
Well, drug stores and hospitals and veterinarians around this state of mine deliver all there Pharmies(well..most of them) using a plain car and a dressed up salesman.
He/She gets outta the car and pops the trunk,grabs some boxes and just walks on into the delivery point.
SSShhhiiiiT !!
Pretty damn tempting if you ask me,but hey, I'm not trying to go back to prison, you know?

CIIORNOTHING
08-20-2007, 01:07 PM
My wife manages a vet practice. They get a box full of hydromorph, morphine, and all the other good shit right off the regular old brown UPS truck about twice a month. There is no indication that its drugs or from a drug company on the label.....you'd have no way of knowing.

ProdigalSon
08-20-2007, 01:11 PM
I always wondered how them there analgesics found there way home.

Thing is if I ever grew a pair and stole say a case of percocet, id go through them just as fast as if i had 90. The more I have the more I do. Sucks. Its the root of my prob, I buy in bulk then subconsciencely I say to myself "You got 20 of em, one or two more aint gonna hurt."

pharmboy
08-20-2007, 01:22 PM
The $64000 question is where are these
wharehouses that all this good stuff
gets shipped from at?:rolleyes:

AZJunkie
08-20-2007, 01:41 PM
my mother-in-law was on home hospice care up until her passing...she got a fat delivery monthly (OCs, Oxy IRs, liquiy Oxy and Morphine as well as a grip of benzos and some other random treats) right off of the FedEx truck.

If noonne was home to sign, he'd leave them by the door.............Almost diverted a package once, but I reminded myself that my "scumbag" days ended when I left the penitentiary. And I loved my M-I-L.

NastyZilla
08-20-2007, 01:48 PM
Scheduled drugs are, in most states, sent from the manufacturer to a distribution warehouse licensed as such by the State. To be a licensed distributor of narcotics in my State, the owner of the distribution warehouse has get a special license from the State version of the DEA, which requires the distributor to have all sorts of technical and administrative safeguards to protect the drugs, and the warehouse undergoes regular inspection by the State version of the DEA, too. Plus the actual DEA has to license the distributor, too, I believe. Don't forget, folks, these days everything is taped by videocamera. Absent stilts and a Groucho Marx outfit, you likely wouldn't get away with stealing from the distributor's warehouse or a pharmacy. Plus, I think you'd likely be subject to federal and state prosecution.

Speaking of vets - I was at my in-laws house the other day and noticed that their damn little yippie dog HAS A HYDROCODONE SCRIPT for a pill with some sort of anti-tussive (coughing) medication in it. I wished like hell everyone would leave the kitchen, but noooooo, everyone hung out and I couldn't even pick up the bottle to check the dosage. I wouldn't steal from a person that needed it, but a dog with a cough that I never heard during my 6 hour visit?? Sorry, but next time I've over there, that little dog is gonna be missing some meds if the milligram scripted makes it worth my while. Of course, the dog weighs 10lbs, tops, so it's unlikely the script is worth a human's time.

Hmm... maybe one of my dogs just developed a cough... hell, I have three 50lb dogs... might add up to something... ;)

mrklean
08-20-2007, 02:02 PM
The $64000 question is where are these
wharehouses that all this good stuff
gets shipped from at?:rolleyes:


I used to work for a company that had a shop that was right behind the loading docks for a company (don't remember the name) which was packaging and shipping scheduled(I'm pretty sure) pharms. I don't know if stuff was actually produced there, but certainly packaged and shipped in bulk. I saw lots of empty packaging material in the dumpster often. At the time I was very actively addicted so I spent alot of time on the clock daydreaming of a way to get some free treats. The place was locked up tighter than a drum cameras on all entrances/ exits and they seemed to be well aware that they were a target. Considering sometimes narcotics are stored at fortknox in the same vault as all the gold I don't think it is too easy to knock one of these places off. It sure is fun to think about though.

GoddessofRATs
08-20-2007, 02:02 PM
About 10 years ago i worked for a drug store and we'd get our loads in and they were all put back into the wherehouse. The Pharmacy stuff had a red twisty tie around the plastic box but the boxes looked just like the rest of the stuff, loads of shampoo, band-aids etc. And one time not thinking while i was working on load i opened the pharmacy box (i forgot what those darn boxes are called) and the first thing i see is a huge bottle of Hydrocodone. At the time i was heavily into Vicodin but i didn't have the balls to steal it. I would have been caught for sure. So i just stood there stairing at the darn bottle. I thumbed threw the rest of the stuff, there was Oxycodone and a few bottles of benzo's. These were the big bulk bottles. The hydro bottle i think had 1000 pills in it, it was the 5's. Well now a days i hate vics and 5's would do nothing for me but back then that would have been the most beautiful score for me. But i didn't want to get fired or put in jail but i tell ya, for about 5 minutes i sure thought about taking the damn bottle. I was the only one back there, i had been assigned to do load that morning.

In retrospect, i should have just taken the bottle. It wouldn't have been noticed missing till the next day and they really wouldn't have known who tool it. Yes i was the only one assigned to load but i left the pharmacy box open for a while so if i had taken it they probably wouldn't have known who did it but would have had suspicions. Who knows what would have happened. The pharmacist was a real dork and a weird guy.

One time i had a script for vics and i had 4 refills from a dentist and every 2 days i'd go back to the pharmacy and ask for my refill and he kept doing it LOL. He knew me for 3 years so he probably just didn't want to say no to me. But one time he took out a piece of paper and wrote down how much tylenol causes liver damage ROTFL. That was his little hint to me that he knew i was taking to much but even after that he always filled my refills. A few months later i got vicodin from a reg doc- 100 a month so he knew something was up and that i was abusinf but he never stopped filling my scripts and never said anything but the liver damage stuff.

I also did something kinda bad in regards to that pharmacy but i don't wanna say what i did LOL. Since i worked there it was easy but i wish i had never done it, i could have gotten in big trouble. I think i'll keep what i did to myself. I regret it and wish i hadn't done it, i was soooooo stupid but i didn't get caught so that's one good thing.

I worked for so many drug stores in my time, as a cashier, load, camera dept, pharmacy. But this one particular drug store was so easy to do things, bad things lol. I only did it twice and after that i started realizing how stupid i was. I would never ever ever ever do anything like that now.

GOR

CIIORNOTHING
08-20-2007, 02:05 PM
Scheduled drugs are, in most states, sent from the manufacturer to a distribution warehouse licensed as such by the State. To be a licensed distributor of narcotics in my State, the owner of the distribution warehouse has get a special license from the State version of the DEA, which requires the distributor to have all sorts of technical and administrative safeguards to protect the drugs, and the warehouse undergoes regular inspection by the State version of the DEA, too. Plus the actual DEA has to license the distributor, too, I believe. Don't forget, folks, these days everything is taped by videocamera. Absent stilts and a Groucho Marx outfit, you likely wouldn't get away with stealing from the distributor's warehouse or a pharmacy. Plus, I think you'd likely be subject to federal and state prosecution.

Speaking of vets - I was at my in-laws house the other day and noticed that their damn little yippie dog HAS A HYDROCODONE SCRIPT for a pill with some sort of anti-tussive (coughing) medication in it. I wished like hell everyone would leave the kitchen, but noooooo, everyone hung out and I couldn't even pick up the bottle to check the dosage. I wouldn't steal from a person that needed it, but a dog with a cough that I never heard during my 6 hour visit?? Sorry, but next time I've over there, that little dog is gonna be missing some meds if the milligram scripted makes it worth my while. Of course, the dog weighs 10lbs, tops, so it's unlikely the script is worth a human's time.

Hmm... maybe one of my dogs just developed a cough... hell, I have three 50lb dogs... might add up to something... ;)

Yeah its 5mg hydro with an anti-cholinergic called homotrpoine methylbromate. They put that in there more than anything because the side effects of it suck so therefroe you cant abuse the hydrocodone as much as you would like. Its still good so long you dont take over 3-4 at once.....

They give dogs and cats all kinds of good shit.....

Black_Pony
08-20-2007, 02:17 PM
Now that is funny! However, I don't understand what he wrote on the paper. A picture of a swollen diseased liver? 'This is your liver, this is your liver on APAP. Any questions?'

Whatever it was, it must have been powerful enough to make you change your ways (yeah right). :D



One time i had a script for vics and i had 4 refills from a dentist and every 2 days i'd go back to the pharmacy and ask for my refill and he kept doing it LOL. He knew me for 3 years so he probably just didn't want to say no to me. But one time he took out a piece of paper and wrote down how much tylenol causes liver damage ROTFL. That was his little hint to me that he knew i was taking to much but even after that he always filled my refills. A few months later i got vicodin from a reg doc- 100 a month so he knew something was up and that i was abusinf but he never stopped filling my scripts and never said anything but the liver damage stuff.

NastyZilla
08-20-2007, 03:44 PM
Now that is funny! However, I don't understand what he wrote on the paper. A picture of a swollen diseased liver? 'This is your liver, this is your liver on APAP. Any questions?'

Whatever it was, it must have been powerful enough to make you change your ways (yeah right). :D

I'm guessing he wrote something like "more than 4000mg of tylenol a day can cause permanent liver damage" or some such.

Funny posts, tho' - blackpony and goddessofrats, you guys are cracking me up. We need more threads like this one!!!! I'm so tired of all the sad, uptight posts! Where are DV, Pill, EuphoricGirl and Nick and their playful banter??

NastyZilla
08-20-2007, 03:50 PM
Yeah its 5mg hydro with an anti-cholinergic called homotrpoine methylbromate. They put that in there more than anything because the side effects of it suck so therefroe you cant abuse the hydrocodone as much as you would like. Its still good so long you dont take over 3-4 at once.....

They give dogs and cats all kinds of good shit.....

FIVE mgs for a little fucking dog??? That dog weighs less than 10lbs! Shit, what a life... lies around all day with no job other than to bark at the mailman, got some old woman sweet talking you and giving you snausages, sitting on a big ass pillow in the front window high as a fucking kite! WOOF WOOF WOOF! Shit, can I be a coughing canine?

Thanks for thinking of the name... kept slipping my mind. Yes, I actually love that stuff, but you're right about not taking too much... the best hydro to me is the cough syrup combined with the hydro pills... ooooooh, so speedy, so euphoric! I feel like I can do ANYTHING on that stuff.

I'm the only person alive who can't wait for cold season to begin... my PCP always scripts the cough syrup for colds, even if you don't have a cough! He's old, so I hate that he'll probably retire soon. Sigh.

GoddessofRATs
08-20-2007, 03:56 PM
Oops, sorry... i should have said what he wrote.

Basicly it was like he wrote a math problem down on a piece of receipt paper from the register. I think he just wrote what you said "4000mgs of tylenol can cause live damage" but he also said it outloud and i remember he was pointint to the 4000mgs with a ball point pin ROTFL. Oh yea, i also remember he said "Hey the opiate won't hurt you but the tylenol will"

I think that's about how it went down LOL.

Glad ya enjoyed the story he he.

We do need more up and positive posts around here. Junkies are generally sad or depressed people so we get a lot of that around here. Sure, some of us are happy, i am pretty happy... that is... when i am oppiated lol. But Junkies have a lot of grief and shit in their lives a lot so a lot of the posts are about that stuff and there isn't anything wrong with that, it's good to have a place to vent. But, seeing some positive and fun posts is so great ya know.

GOR


I'm guessing he wrote something like "more than 4000mg of tylenol a day can cause permanent liver damage" or some such.

Funny posts, tho' - blackpony and goddessofrats, you guys are cracking me up. We need more threads like this one!!!! I'm so tired of all the sad, uptight posts! Where are DV, Pill, EuphoricGirl and Nick and their playful banter??

Yea, his powerful words and little note really straightened me out ROTFL. 10 years later vicodin does shit for me and I'm up the oppie ladder and on Morphine and Roxi's and what ever i can get my hands on.

Funny strange man the Pharmacist was. He was a body builder too but he was so akward, just strange ya know.

GOR

"Whatever it was, it must have been powerful enough to make you change your ways (yeah right). :D[/quote]

EleusisII
08-20-2007, 04:40 PM
FIVE mgs for a little fucking dog??? That dog weighs less than 10lbs! Shit, what a life... lies around all day with no job other than to bark at the mailman, got some old woman sweet talking you and giving you snausages, sitting on a big ass pillow in the front window high as a fucking kite! WOOF WOOF WOOF! Shit, can I be a coughing canine?

'
No, but you can call a vet, and tell him that your dog got "kennel cough" :)
Swipe the pills, and give doggy a bone, if you have one...

kazman32
08-20-2007, 06:56 PM
Dont bother, those are most likely
manufacturers reps. Drug company sales
people who are just delivering a few boxes
of free samples to docs and pharmacies.
Thier not the big score. The big score is
in those little armored UPS trucks.:cool:


yah guy down the street gets his percs deliverd fed-ex to bad the driver won't leave the box when he isnt home...belive me I watched/ and waited,.

Brony
08-20-2007, 07:14 PM
Hmm... maybe one of my dogs just developed a cough... hell, I have three 50lb dogs... might add up to something... ;)


My little pooch gets butorphanol (aka Stadol) because she had a nasty leg surgery a year or two ago. She has lots of scar tissue and she's definitely in pain without them.

It's funny to watch her after I give her a pill; about 20 minutes after her "dose", she starts to nod off. First one eye will start to close, then the other eye, and before you know it she slumps down and sleeps for an hour or so.

My dog the junky. :D

EleusisII
08-20-2007, 07:23 PM
It's funny to watch her after I give her a pill; about 20 minutes after her "dose", she starts to nod off. First one eye will start to close, then the other eye, and before you know it she slumps down and sleeps for an hour or so.

My dog the junky. :D

Ever get high with her? :D
I thought Stadol wasn't active orally, hence the nasal spray?

CIIORNOTHING
08-21-2007, 11:21 AM
FIVE mgs for a little fucking dog??? That dog weighs less than 10lbs! Shit, what a life... lies around all day with no job other than to bark at the mailman, got some old woman sweet talking you and giving you snausages, sitting on a big ass pillow in the front window high as a fucking kite! WOOF WOOF WOOF! Shit, can I be a coughing canine?

Thanks for thinking of the name... kept slipping my mind. Yes, I actually love that stuff, but you're right about not taking too much... the best hydro to me is the cough syrup combined with the hydro pills... ooooooh, so speedy, so euphoric! I feel like I can do ANYTHING on that stuff.

I'm the only person alive who can't wait for cold season to begin... my PCP always scripts the cough syrup for colds, even if you don't have a cough! He's old, so I hate that he'll probably retire soon. Sigh.

yep, tussionex is pretty good if hydro can still get you off. Sadly fo rme, hydro is merely to avoid WD

CIIORNOTHING
08-21-2007, 11:23 AM
My little pooch gets butorphanol (aka Stadol) because she had a nasty leg surgery a year or two ago. She has lots of scar tissue and she's definitely in pain without them.

It's funny to watch her after I give her a pill; about 20 minutes after her "dose", she starts to nod off. First one eye will start to close, then the other eye, and before you know it she slumps down and sleeps for an hour or so.

My dog the junky. :D


Is that stuff refridgerated?

FOr that matter, does anyone know of any GOOD shit we woudl like that is kept in the fridge?

roxi*stardust
08-21-2007, 12:42 PM
Dont bother, those are most likely
manufacturers reps. Drug company sales
people who are just delivering a few boxes
of free samples to docs and pharmacies.
Thier not the big score. The big score is
in those little armored UPS trucks.:cool:



The $64000 question is where are these
wharehouses that all this good stuff
gets shipped from at?:rolleyes:
http://www.mckesson.com/en_us/McKesson.com/
http://www.cardinal.com/
These companies supply pharmacies. There are more
And most if not all pharm delivers are delivered by regular semi-trucks, not armored trucks. And I hope no one is seriously considering doing anything illegal.

pharmboy
08-21-2007, 01:13 PM
Don't worry Roxi, I may be a drug addict but I'm not
stupid.
It'd make a great movie though, like the remake of
Drugstore Cowboy for the 21st century.Everything
bigger and better!

GoddessofRATs
08-21-2007, 09:59 PM
That would be great. I don't mean a remake of 'Drugstore Cowboy" or a part 2 but a movie that is simular to DC. A more updated type movie with the same theme- robbing drug stores. Things have changed a lot since the era that movie took place in ya know. I'd love to see a new movie about robbin' drugstores. But it would have to be made in good taste, no summer movie type thing, no major hype, just a good movie.. maybe an indie movie. I'd actually love to write something like that. I've written a lot in my life but rarely finish anything. But, I'd love to write a book or a story about robbin' drug stores. I have no experience accept the one or two things i did when i worked for a drug store, nothing major but i think i could write something good.

Maybe we could all write a collective story. A book full of short stories about drugstore robbin' LOL.

Ugh, I'm so sleepy and I'm not making sense. LOL

GOR



Don't worry Roxi, I may be a drug addict but I'm not
stupid.
It'd make a great movie though, like the remake of
Drugstore Cowboy for the 21st century.Everything
bigger and better!

roxi*stardust
08-24-2007, 06:03 PM
Don't worry Roxi, I may be a drug addict but I'm not
stupid.
It'd make a great movie though, like the remake of
Drugstore Cowboy for the 21st century.Everything
bigger and better!
LOL, had to add the disclaimer!!:D

betmylife
08-24-2007, 07:50 PM
zimbabwe

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???huh???

AWOL
08-24-2007, 08:02 PM
???huh??? I've got my eye on you ................

betmylife
08-24-2007, 08:06 PM
I've got my eye on you ................




the zeros and ones are the words of my father, Ive got MY eye on you Bill.....I dunno butchie instead.

AWOL
08-24-2007, 08:08 PM
the zeros and ones are the words of my father, Ive got MY eye on you Bill.....I dunno butchie instead.
I'm straight amigo, women only.



cheers :) :drinkit: :)

:D

betmylife
08-24-2007, 08:13 PM
Im straight too, sorry.....watch John from Cincinatti on HBO and you will understand that post.....I thought maybe thats what you were reffering to in the first plave, Im going to sleep...these damn pills are making me nod....later man


BML

AWOL
08-24-2007, 08:15 PM
Im straight too, sorry.....watch John from Cincinatti on HBO and you will understand that post.....I thought maybe thats what you were reffering to in the first plave, Im going to sleep...these damn pills are making me nod....later man


BML

PS: I'm bill clinton, have we met :p

iloveoxys03
08-24-2007, 08:20 PM
:cool:swim knows a hamster who toldswim and gave swim a list with adresses to ware houses swim was thinking about the endo and purdue ware houses

AWOL
08-24-2007, 08:22 PM
:cool:swim knows a hamster who toldswim and gave swim a list with adresses to ware houses swim was thinking about the endo and purdue ware houses I heard the purendo was good for the money, gotta love the women of the night eh? best moeny spent



ps: i'm dv, have we met?

sidman
09-12-2007, 08:10 AM
I'm suprised we don't have a bunch of "Judgements" being passed, rhetoric and controversy on this post like there is on the Posting of: "Scams' to Get $$"
Does anyone think that I would rob a Pharmacy-Delivery?
My own answer to that would be...."Not Today!!"
And you know why?
Because in Addiction (active or not) I have learned not to say, "I would NEVER do that!!"
People in "Recovery" call it the "Yets' "
So I just take it one day at a time.
I just hope the opportunity NEVER arrives......HA-HA-HAAAAA!!!
( I'm Just Kidding...............Or aren't I ?)

tptptp
09-12-2007, 06:15 PM
Speaking of vets - I was at my in-laws house the other day and noticed that their damn little yippie dog HAS A HYDROCODONE SCRIPT for a pill with some sort of anti-tussive (coughing) medication in it. I wished like hell everyone would leave the kitchen, but noooooo, everyone hung out and I couldn't even pick up the bottle to check the dosage. I wouldn't steal from a person that needed it, but a dog with a cough that I never heard during my 6 hour visit?? Sorry, but next time I've over there, that little dog is gonna be missing some meds if the milligram scripted makes it worth my while. Of course, the dog weighs 10lbs, tops, so it's unlikely the script is worth a human's time.


I hope that's a joke for someone who was telling other fiends to get a job not too long ago, thats theft and usage! If the dog didn't have the cough that was probably why. Dogs can feel pain too, but they cant do anything about it like humans can, so that can actually be even more cruel.

GoddessofRATs
09-12-2007, 06:53 PM
I agree... if the dogs not coughing it's probably because he's on the medication or they use it when he has flair ups, maybe he doesn't cough all the time. I've done some shity things but that i couldn't do. My rats have been prescribed narcotic pain meds (IV) and i never had the heart to use their meds. I'm not judging that person, I'm just saying i couldn't do something like that. I told that story about my rat before, how she had a spider bite and was in so much pain and i had a needle filled with that pain stuff, i forget the name of it- B-something, she was in so much pain and although i did think about it i didn't have the heart to use the meds for myself and that day i had nothing, no pills no nothing.

My dog got a couple good little pills after he was snipped and i couldn't do it either. Sure i thought about it lol but i couldn't do it. He wasn't even in that much pain but when i felt he was uncomfy i gave him his pill. I forget the name of it now but it was some good stuff, i remember i looked it up on line.

If i was severely desperate and in extremely bad w/d i still do't think i could do it.

Please note, i am not judging anyone ok. I'm just saying what i could or couldn't do.

GOR

sidman
09-13-2007, 05:19 PM
It really amazes me me how a thread can start off on a topic and then it swerves off topic, to the right...to the left....then WHOA.....hit a bump.....jump back onto the topic....then almost get ran off the road........yank the wheel to the... left ! .....right ! .... left ! ..brakes !! brakes !!! Whoa whoa WHOA !!!
There we go.......back on track....easy...take it easy, steady now.......................................
So, thank you everybody for a truly great great Thread and I am looking forward to many more!!
( I never knew that Narcotics were prescribed so liberally to Pets ! At least that is how it seems to me )

repeek
09-13-2007, 06:20 PM
When I was in high school (67-71) A friend’s dad had a little warehouse in a field behind his house. We used it to work on our cars, one day we were drunk and started looking at the stuff he had in there and found a pallet of reds, secanol; great big jars like the ones you get them big pickles in. We took a box (something like 4000 reds) and became the most popular kids in school overnight.

Never heard a word about them missing either, never found anymore either for that matter.