Price Of Done?

[H-Town]

Im looking to get started on MMT sick of the life ya know... I live on LI, NY im wondering what everything else pays a week or monthly for there methadone and how much is your daily dose?

-Thanks

[Saint]

In Holland is quite cheap, about 30 dollarscents for 10 mgs. On the black market it's anywhere between 50 cents and 1 dollar for 5 mgs (pills not liquid)

[flipside]

Generally it's abpout $10 a day as far as price goes.

As for dose could range anywhere from 80-300mg depending on the clinic and your personal situation.

I belive the norm dose is around 100-180mgs per day/. Those are the most common doses I have seen over the years.

[OCfenatiq]

I am in a clinic now and pay $13 a day for the disks but it is only $12 a day for the liquid, and the price is the same no matter what your dose is. I'm sure they all differ a little in price but between this price and the one flip listed you get the general idea... Hope that helps...

[H-Town]

Just went around to a few clinics on Long Island and most of them are $110 a day without insurance but with a job. If you dont have either its only $6 a week! Couldn't believe how cheap it is for some people, I will enjoy my last few days of being doped up on some fine East Coast powder then take the plunge at soberiaty (SP?).

Thanks For Your Help Guys,

[Duckfeet]

Methadone is usually either free, if ur a vet, or dirtpoor and can proove it, and will go to wherever the inner city methadone clinic is, and go thru all the hoops. The for-pay clinics, which are actually--to me--still a new deal, are usually somewhere between five and fifteen bucks a day...depending on income and location of clinic. I've never heard of way more than that or nobody'd go. So I'd do some research, find some numbers, call around.

Have you tried buprenorphene, that might be a way out, there website is naabt.ort, because methadone--which I'm on, 80mg a day, can be kind of heavy, and a problem when u want to get off it.

but in any case best wishes to you, and feel free to ask any other questions you might have...

[H-Town]

Tried the bupe and hated every minute of it. Made me very depressed and lathergic. I used to take methadone 2 years ago but was getting it off the street at the time, I used it as a tool to not go into W.D when I had no other opiates. So we will see what happens.

One more thing, DuckFeet I have been reading every post and comment you leave for people and everything you say I agree 100 Percent on most topics and just love reading your stories/post's... Just had to let you know I look up to you as a Opiophile God, haha.

Thanks,

[betmylife]

Methadone is usually either free, if ur a vet, or dirtpoor and can proove it, and will go to wherever the inner city methadone clinic is, and go thru all the hoops. The for-pay clinics, which are actually--to me--still a new deal, are usually somewhere between five and fifteen bucks a day...depending on income and location of clinic. I've never heard of way more than that or nobody'd go. So I'd do some research, find some numbers, call around.

Have you tried buprenorphene, that might be a way out, there website is naabt.ort, because methadone--which I'm on, 80mg a day, can be kind of heavy, and a problem when u want to get off it.

but in any case best wishes to you, and feel free to ask any other questions you might have...


hey duck, your down to 80mg of done? are you getting off it?......

[Duckfeet]

Betmylife: Actually I'll get the 80 tomorrow: they dropped me down to 90 today, 10mg more tomorrow. Nah, Im kind of embarassed but as usual, after a while on methadone, I don't like it so much, makes my joints feel all heavy, and the "happy" feeling I got first few weeks, is harder and harder to notice...plus, the constipation is *so* fucking obnoxious. But anyway, I'm hopin to get down to fifty, see how I feel. I'll never change, it looks like...Been on this merry-go-round before, and here I go again. But I'll decide when I get down lower what I'm to do. I've got no quarrel with staying on it, if I could feel human.

And H-Town: Sounds like u've already been thru what I went thru w/subs then. Methadone can be alright, if I'm at right dose. I know a lot of people think when u get to feeling crappy, to go higher, but it's just not in my gene pool: i've spent too many years distrustful of longterm high doses of methadone, and no matter how many people quote statistics at me, I'll still be suspicious...my dream, get down low, get some escape doses, flee to England, get on heroin. Tried for Canada, got turned away, so we'll see. I'm just doing my usual insanity in public...

And thanks for the kind words, btw....put a smile on me old bearded faced :-)

[Synack]

Betmylife: Actually I'll get the 80 tomorrow: they dropped me down to 90 today, 10mg more tomorrow. Nah, Im kind of embarassed but as usual, after a while on methadone, I don't like it so much, makes my joints feel all heavy, and the "happy" feeling I got first few weeks, is harder and harder to notice...plus, the constipation is *so* fucking obnoxious. But anyway, I'm hopin to get down to fifty, see how I feel. I'll never change, it looks like...Been on this merry-go-round before, and here I go again. But I'll decide when I get down lower what I'm to do. I've got no quarrel with staying on it, if I could feel human.

And H-Town: Sounds like u've already been thru what I went thru w/subs then. Methadone can be alright, if I'm at right dose. I know a lot of people think when u get to feeling crappy, to go higher, but it's just not in my gene pool: i've spent too many years distrustful of longterm high doses of methadone, and no matter how many people quote statistics at me, I'll still be suspicious...my dream, get down low, get some escape doses, flee to England, get on heroin. Tried for Canada, got turned away, so we'll see. I'm just doing my usual insanity in public...

And thanks for the kind words, btw....put a smile on me old bearded faced :-)

You had trouble breaking into canada? hell, there's a few spots where you can just walk right across...I'll look it up for you, if you'd like..

[Duckfeet]

Yeah, I really wanted to go to Vancouver. They still had that NAOMI thing going, when I last checked a few months ago. I know I posted something about it on here...I figured it would be a long shot getting on it, but I had some bucks stashed, and had heard Vancouver was good place to cop anyway, and I just wanted to get away from tired-ass tar...

But anyway, if I did try again, I figure that would be the best way, because it sounds like I could just walk or drive across easier than going thru customs and immigration like I did flying in....but it'll be a while before I go again...I'll let u know if i do, but thanks for letting me know...was a real drag and embarassing, and of course I came back kind of discouraged, and got *all* strung out for my troubles, and trashed what was left of my veins...


You had trouble breaking into canada? hell, there's a few spots where you can just walk right across...I'll look it up for you, if you'd like..

[tui]

Just went around to a few clinics on Long Island and most of them are $110 a day without insurance but with a job. If you dont have either its only $6 a week! Couldn't believe how cheap it is for some people, I will enjoy my last few days of being doped up on some fine East Coast powder then take the plunge at soberiaty (SP?).

Thanks For Your Help Guys,

did i read that right? $110 A DAY?! holy shit.

in new zealand methadone is 100% free. but oddly, it's expensive to buy on the street- goes for $1 a mg.
in montreal it was $2 a day (with health insurance or poor card) or $5 a day without. I can't believe i used to bitch about that. blackmarket 'done was 100mgs for $30.

why would anyone switch to 'done if it's $110 a day? might as well maintain a heroin habit.

best of luck anyway. hope it all works out,,

t

[Duckfeet]

No, there's got to be some mistake on that: there's bound to be a methadone clinic somewhere around there, between oh five to twenty bucks, maybe less, a day. Some error, maybe they misunderstood or something, or were talking about cost of inhouse treatment w/methadone or something, no way maintenance go for that...


did i read that right? $110 A DAY?! holy shit.

in new zealand methadone is 100% free. but oddly, it's expensive to buy on the street- goes for $1 a mg.
in montreal it was $2 a day (with health insurance or poor card) or $5 a day without. I can't believe i used to bitch about that. blackmarket 'done was 100mgs for $30.

why would anyone switch to 'done if it's $110 a day? might as well maintain a heroin habit.

best of luck anyway. hope it all works out,,

t

[tui]

Yeah, I really wanted to go to Vancouver. They still had that NAOMI thing going, when I last checked a few months ago. I know I posted something about it on here...I figured it would be a long shot getting on it, but I had some bucks stashed, and had heard Vancouver was good place to cop anyway, and I just wanted to get away from tired-ass tar...

But anyway, if I did try again, I figure that would be the best way, because it sounds like I could just walk or drive across easier than going thru customs and immigration like I did flying in....but it'll be a while before I go again...I'll let u know if i do, but thanks for letting me know...was a real drag and embarassing, and of course I came back kind of discouraged, and got *all* strung out for my troubles, and trashed what was left of my veins...


They have NAOMI in Montreal too, but dope is abundant in Vancouver, and cheaper too. That program seems INSANELY hard to qualify for though. If you're serious about it, the pre-lim interview is done by phone, and if you pass that, you make an appointment to meet in person and get drilled further. i didn't get past the phone call, and neither did my boyfriend at the time, even though we were both lying our asses off to seem as desperate and degenerate as possible. Being older and using for longer will be in your favour. But will you qualify as a US citizen? Damn DF, if i was still in Canada i'd marry you so you could get your citizenship. Anyway, if i were you i'd do the phone interview from the States, just to see if you pass round one, that way you can avoid missioning all the way there if you're not eligible.
Good luck eh,,
t

[Duckfeet]

thanks Tui, and u know I broke out in big ol grin on the marriage offer, hell girl, that's as close as I've had to a proposal in years ;-)

And I don't know on the citizenship thing at all, but from what I read, I seem to qualify on the other: longterm heroin addict, convicted felon, all that...but there's the rub: convicted felons not allowed in Canada without permission from minister of something or other.

Best shot, after talking to Nick, if I got serious, would be England, and after next go around with Veterans Admin, my pension should be "untouchable" so maybe I'll look at that again, but I know England had some foreign nationals, but I probably would have to get residency for sure, and maybe get on methadone meanwhile or something, I don't know, what a drag this country is so behind in all that...I thought for a while mexico might lighten up and start something like that, but not now...

But maybe I'll look into it again, what have I got to loose, I know the phone number and everything, and I did call them once, for something else.....oh I know what it was: I called them, and they said it was *only* for people who lived within a certain distance of the needle place, u know, the place where they allow u to shoot up, I forget the name, so I couldn't even apply, as far as they were concerned, unless I lived in that vicinity...it's like a catch22 it seems, where I"d *live* in the vicinity, if I could get permission, and had any chance at all, but can't get in *anyway*!!


They have NAOMI in Montreal too, but dope is abundant in Vancouver, and cheaper too. That program seems INSANELY hard to qualify for though. If you're serious about it, the pre-lim interview is done by phone, and if you pass that, you make an appointment to meet in person and get drilled further. i didn't get past the phone call, and neither did my boyfriend at the time, even though we were both lying our asses off to seem as desperate and degenerate as possible. Being older and using for longer will be in your favour. But will you qualify as a US citizen? Damn DF, if i was still in Canada i'd marry you so you could get your citizenship. Anyway, if i were you i'd do the phone interview from the States, just to see if you pass round one, that way you can avoid missioning all the way there if you're not eligible.
Good luck eh,,
t

[underide]

Best shot, after talking to Nick, if I got serious, would be England


I really dont know about that Duckfeet!!
Are you feeling lucky!? Just ask yourself that.
The odds of someone getting on heroin maintainance in Britain are probably as slim as they ever will be.
It is EXTREMELY difficult to get on heroin maint over thee and as far as i know only a fe hudred (maybe less) qualify to get it. Even if you qualify, theres one long ass waiting list and then even longer pereod of assessment to follow.
All this is according to an old junkie from London that i see regularly at my clinic. He moved here 1 year ago with his s/o and i have asked him many a time abot heoin maint in Britain - his answer is 'No such luck!!'
He wasnt the only one from Britain i've talked to about it, and it really seems thats the way it is

A better bet for you would be Switzerland. Over there they actually have Heroin Maintainance (with a good few people getting a chance) as opposed to Heroin Lottery they have in Britain.
Srtart learning German Duck man! Or french, country is bilingual.

Even in Holland, there is a much better chance of getting heroin maintainance than in Britain.
Sorry to piss on your parade Duck, I didnt mean too. Just like being a realist

[H-Town]

I meant $110 a week not per day, sorry for the type-o. Duckfeet What type of Herion Maint. are you talking about?

[mmnyc9]

Each clinic is different most have some sort of sliding scale for working patients. I know some people pay $20 a month. What the clinics want is Medicaid that's where they make there $$$$. $10 average a day is about right. The weird thing is they don't take any other insurance besides Medicaid. plus Medicaid PTs get traveling money every month.

[Saint]

Even in Holland, there is a much better chance of getting heroin maintainance than in Britain.
Sorry to piss on your parade Duck, I didnt mean too. Just like being a realist

I just looked into heroinmaintenance here in Amsterdam. They even want to expand these treatments now and there is more than one centre/clinic that does this.
A few of the criteria are that you:

- have failed numerous times at other treatments (rehab, methadon, sub etc)
- must have been a longterm methadone patient who has used a minimum of 50 to 60 mgs of methadone the last period of time (preferably over a long period of time)
- nothing that you have tried has permanently improved either your physical or mental health, not even methadone

Well, this all applies to you. They don't mention anything about foreigners applying for in the program though but maybe that's because they don't want heroine-maintenance-tourism ;-)
I can find out if you want me to, and yes, Switzerland has the same treatment.

B.t.w.: if you do get heroinemaintenance here you will get methadone on the side as well! If you don't want the extra methadone you can't get in the program. I guess this is because you have to use the heroine daily in a clinical setting (except for the weekends maybe when you get a takehome) so they want to make sure you don't get sick at night/in the early morning.
I can find out more details if you want but there is no way that you can bodysurf in the canals here...;-)
So that's a minus.

[rachamim18]

H: NY State has the most liberal Medicaid regs in the nation. Just apply at your local Medicaid center as indigent and then you will not have to worry about payment. It shopuld be provided free of cost anyway in a perfect world since it curtails incredible amounts of taxpayer losses through addiction related costs.

Duck: Yep, Vancouver still has the trials but a foreigner getting in is not going to be possible I am sure. However, they do have an alternative with a doctor in the midwest part of the nation who is using pure codeine as OST to long term wean patients off over a 1 year period in very gradual declining increments.

Also, I have heard of people in the Maritimes getting Duragesic for the same goal so it is alot more progressive than the States.