Temazepam for sleep [Archive]

Synack

08-19-2007, 01:53 AM

betmylife

08-19-2007, 02:43 AM

Diazapam workes for me, valium....20mgs at night...and Im on oxy in the day when I need it....oxycodone....I have been on the oxymorphone though, and recall the week I was taking it I didnt get shit for sleep...whats your Med combo? cause maybe you just need to schedual what time you take stuff different.....I once asked my Doc to give me a diff opiate to take at night, like a hydromorphone, or even some hydrocodone, but he just gave me more valium.....temazepam is which one? xanax??....

BML

AWOL

08-19-2007, 05:03 AM

re: temazepam for fun

myfaceitches

08-20-2007, 03:23 AM

.....temazepam is which one? xanax??....

BML

Temazepam is Restoril, by brand name...Hope that helps

Wow that shit is WAY mor powerful (for me) than ANY other benzo I've ever taken...I was prescribed it for a year for insomnia....Take it on an empty stomach and loosen the capsules....The White capsules right? the 30s? That's what they gave me...

nick

08-20-2007, 07:35 AM

Mazzies always worked for me,but if you are in the middle of a kick.........a hammer over the head is about the only way to lose consciousness.

Synack

08-20-2007, 09:02 AM

hell, I'm not on a kick and no amount of nodding keeps me out for good..seems "a hammer over the head is about the only way to lose consciousness." may be the only way to go..

Ale

08-27-2007, 04:56 PM

I was Rx'd 1 15 MG cap HS (at bedtime) to help me sleep off the oxy(codone/morphone) combo from the day. The doc kept pushing it and said it works really well, etc.

Here I am again, 2nd night in a row with 30mg's in me..and I can't sleep worth shit - this shit doesn't even make me tired...

What else could I try? The OTC shit doesn't work, and I've tried kpins... I'd really like a cheap pill, that just knocks my ass out within the hour. My Doc is pretty open to new things so I just need a few suggestions, etc.
Try with Flurazepam(Dalmane®) or Nitrazepam(Mogadon®) or Lormetazepam(Noctamid®)...or even..Flunitrazepam(Rohypnol®)..if your Doc.'s so open to prescribe you this last one You'll be just fine..trouble is..it's in the drug schedule#1 pretty much anywhere..in the us for sure..(CI..is that what it's called?) so I figure it requires a special Rx..I'm not too sure though.

Seedy

08-27-2007, 05:18 PM

I just had my first go on mazzies, just for sleep. 30mgs (equiv of 20mg diazapam I think) only knocked me down for 3 hours then minor withdrawals woke me up and that was it. For me still nothing beats good old valium (and I've tried mogadon, kpins, xanax, halcian). 20mgs of valium would have given me my much needed 8 hours, that I know for sure.

poppy

08-27-2007, 05:28 PM

Temazepam have always worked for me, apart from when I've been withdrawing which like Nick says
'if you are in the middle of a kick.........a hammer over the head is about the only way to lose consciousness........'

smojo

08-27-2007, 06:14 PM

My 4mg Tizanidine/Zanaflex can knock me out...
Been on it for 4 years, and it is the motherload of muscle relaxants
No one is scripted this? Well, I guess it is for MS patients and more advanced cases of bullshit problems like mine. The shit works, it continually fucks me up when needed, in fact, I can't even take it during the day, and my tolerance is generously huge.

Synack

08-27-2007, 09:20 PM

seems like I'm running out of options as far as a regular sleep pattern.. I want a knock out pill :)

thanks for the input :D

Ale

08-28-2007, 05:30 PM

seems like I'm running out of options as far as a regular sleep pattern.. I want a knock out pill :)

thanks for the input :D
Flunitrazepam and Midazolam are the two (benzodiazepinic) active principles found in the knock out pills by definition.Temazepam,Nitrazepam,Lormetazepam,Flura zepam..even Alprazolam can do the trick as well..but they're not even close

betmylife

08-28-2007, 07:54 PM

Restoril is made from diazepam i think, 40mgs of valium lets me sleep for 12 hours....its great........

Synack

08-28-2007, 09:39 PM

the shit doesn't do a damn thing for me sadly.

chopstix

08-28-2007, 11:32 PM

Restoril is made from diazepam i think, 40mgs of valium lets me sleep for 12 hours....its great........

Yep, temazepam is one of the metabolites of diazepam.

I have really bad insomnia, both a hard time falling asleep and a hard time staying asleep, sometimes I wonder if it has anything to do with years of off and on opiate usage although I've had some of my symptoms since childhood.

I started on temazepam a couple years ago and it worked for awhile, I also usually have a few drinks at night - don't really get drunk just good and buzzed because it helps knock me out (along with opiates which work better than anything but are a can of worms in themselves). After about a year the temazepam started to not work so well so I'd take more and more. Once that started it was only a couple months before I could take 6-8 15mg caps with a pint of Vodka over a 12hr period and still be sleep deprived. I'd had small amounts of Valium before with good results so I found a good shrink with "addiction specialist" next to his name because I knew I was addicted to the benzos at this point; I was waking up early in the morning due to hypersensitivity to (morning) light and sounds - both classic symptoms of benzo wd. So I told him that I wanted to switch to Valium and gave him the reasons why (http://www.benzo.org.uk/ashvtaper.htm) and he said no problem. I haven't started a taper yet but I will within a year or two.. I'm seeing a different doctor now and she has no problem writing for 20mg a night but told me she won't increase the dose which is fine. My sleep would be a little more consistent at 30mg but I'm really wary of the long term effects of benzo addiction and I know I don't want to be on them forever.

Insomnia is a bitch. At the peak of my onset, I'm sure everyone I knew thought I was going insane. Nobody gets it either, they all take sleep for granted and have never experienced true deprivation and how badly it fucks with you. I could go on and on about the severity of sleep deprivation..

At this point the only things that guarantees me a solid 6-8 hrs of sleep are Valium and Opiates or maybe a fifth of Bourbon. Alcohol knocks me out but usually doesn't keep me asleep. Some combination of alcohol, valium and opiates is the only thing that keeps me going at this point..

Not a sob story, just my experience :) Valium has worked best for me and is the best one to get off the (usually) inevitable addiction that follows chronic benzo use.. Tell your doctor you've tried everything else and it's the only thing that works...

Synack

08-29-2007, 12:33 AM

well, I'm on 60mg of restoril..and I'm not out...

I'm broken :(

chopstix

08-29-2007, 12:57 AM

Call your doc and tell him it's not working. Have you tried Lunesta or (ugh) Ambien? Ambien knocks me out (for about 4 hrs) but gives me the shakes really bad, probably because of the alcohol. Lunesta worked ok but, like Ambien and some others, is really $$ and I don't have insurance. One of the great things about Valium is that it's cheap.

Feel free to PM me if you want advice on what to say to your doc..

Synack

08-29-2007, 12:58 AM

PM sent...well, in the process of sending..

Inspektahdek

08-29-2007, 04:44 PM

mazzies are pretty good for sleep I think they come in 15mg, no? About 60mg would make me feel content and relaxed and I could sleep pretty damn well on it. Although my prescribed diazepam makes me sleep like a champ and since it's an anxiolytic (relaxes muscles and ceases spasming etc.) and I'm a chronic pain patient it makes 4 hours of sleep feel like 8 hours of sleep and I wake up ready to defeat the world with one hand tied behind my back. Temazepam is pretty decent however :)

Synack

08-29-2007, 04:53 PM

well, on 60mg of the stuff - it didn't knock me out, or keep me out, but I did feel rested for the first 30 minutes or so after I woke up...then I went to feeling like shit again.

jayemp420

08-30-2007, 09:07 AM

Try with Flurazepam(Dalmane®) or Nitrazepam(Mogadon®) or Lormetazepam(Noctamid®)...or even..Flunitrazepam(Rohypnol®)..if your Doc.'s so open to prescribe you this last one You'll be just fine..trouble is..it's in the drug schedule#1 pretty much anywhere..in the us for sure..(CI..is that what it's called?) so I figure it requires a special Rx..I'm not too sure though.

if its schedule 1 no doc can prescribe it. schedule 1 means "no known medical value"

Saint

08-30-2007, 04:53 PM

Yep, temazepam is one of the metabolites of diazepam.

I have really bad insomnia, both a hard time falling asleep and a hard time staying asleep, sometimes I wonder if it has anything to do with years of off and on opiate usage although I've had some of my symptoms since childhood.

I started on temazepam a couple years ago and it worked for awhile, I also usually have a few drinks at night - don't really get drunk just good and buzzed because it helps knock me out (along with opiates which work better than anything but are a can of worms in themselves). After about a year the temazepam started to not work so well so I'd take more and more. Once that started it was only a couple months before I could take 6-8 15mg caps with a pint of Vodka over a 12hr period and still be sleep deprived. I'd had small amounts of Valium before with good results so I found a good shrink with "addiction specialist" next to his name because I knew I was addicted to the benzos at this point; I was waking up early in the morning due to hypersensitivity to (morning) light and sounds - both classic symptoms of benzo wd. So I told him that I wanted to switch to Valium and gave him the reasons why (http://www.benzo.org.uk/ashvtaper.htm) and he said no problem. I haven't started a taper yet but I will within a year or two.. I'm seeing a different doctor now and she has no problem writing for 20mg a night but told me she won't increase the dose which is fine. My sleep would be a little more consistent at 30mg but I'm really wary of the long term effects of benzo addiction and I know I don't want to be on them forever.

Insomnia is a bitch. At the peak of my onset, I'm sure everyone I knew thought I was going insane. Nobody gets it either, they all take sleep for granted and have never experienced true deprivation and how badly it fucks with you. I could go on and on about the severity of sleep deprivation..

At this point the only things that guarantees me a solid 6-8 hrs of sleep are Valium and Opiates or maybe a fifth of Bourbon. Alcohol knocks me out but usually doesn't keep me asleep. Some combination of alcohol, valium and opiates is the only thing that keeps me going at this point..

Not a sob story, just my experience :) Valium has worked best for me and is the best one to get off the (usually) inevitable addiction that follows chronic benzo use.. Tell your doctor you've tried everything else and it's the only thing that works...

I have the same thing: temazepam does NOTHING for me. It's useless shit imo. Years ago mogadon worked fine for me but I can't get my hands on those anymore. Now I take valium and serax but I am afraid to take more than 10 mgs daily of those and preferably less.
I really don't need yet another addiction.
But insomnia can drive you crazy. It's often people who never have any sleepingproblems who don't understand how it can suck the life out of you and drive you nuts, to a point of hallucinating even. I called in sick once because I hadn't been able to sleep for 3 days and all they said was: well, why don't you take some valerianroot then? Yeah right, I'm sure I would have slept like a baby :mad:....

Maggie38

08-30-2007, 11:00 PM

I too suffer from chronic insomia but I take 10 mgs of Ambien at night on an empty stomach and go straight to bed. That works for me but may not work for you. Restoril didn't help me at all. What about Halcion? Would that be an option for you?

Seedy

08-30-2007, 11:10 PM

I have the same thing: temazepam does NOTHING for me. It's useless shit imo. Years ago mogadon worked fine for me but I can't get my hands on those anymore. Now I take valium and serax but I am afraid to take more than 10 mgs daily of those and preferably less.
I really don't need yet another addiction.
But insomnia can drive you crazy. It's often people who never have any sleepingproblems who don't understand how it can suck the life out of you and drive you nuts, to a point of hallucinating even. I called in sick once because I hadn't been able to sleep for 3 days and all they said was: well, why don't you take some valerianroot then? Yeah right, I'm sure I would have slept like a baby :mad:....

Yeah insomnia turns me into a complete asswipe. I'm usually pretty mellow & easy going but lack of sleep makes me angry, irrational and paranoid. Like a different person. And the problem is if I ever get prescribed benzos I'll always use them for fun, mmm benzos, booze & blunts!

dirtdog

08-30-2007, 11:32 PM

ugh I just took 30mg of this stuff and well.... nothing?
sigh
and i can't control how much i want to take as some of you know Im being closely monitored

I JUST WANT TO SLEEP

is this too much to ask for?

Synack

08-30-2007, 11:42 PM

I JUST WANT TO SLEEP

is this too much to ask for?

Yes...:D

chopstix

08-31-2007, 12:33 AM

What about Halcion?

I tried Halcion, it's hardly prescribed for anything anymore. Once I did some reading about it, I questioned the logic behind my doctors decision to prescribe it.

It is *very* short acting and has a very short half-life. Not exactly sure of the numbers but I think the duration of action is less than Ambien. It's the only benzo that's considered a low addiction risk because it's duration is so short. It also has an exceptionally high ratio of bizarre behavior associated with it - kinda like Ambien, some people just flip out on the shit..

Synack

08-31-2007, 04:54 AM

no sleep for meeeee. fuck.

Saint

08-31-2007, 05:12 AM

I tried Halcion, it's hardly prescribed for anything anymore. Once I did some reading about it, I questioned the logic behind my doctors decision to prescribe it.

It is *very* short acting and has a very short half-life. Not exactly sure of the numbers but I think the duration of action is less than Ambien. It's the only benzo that's considered a low addiction risk because it's duration is so short. It also has an exceptionally high ratio of bizarre behavior associated with it - kinda like Ambien, some people just flip out on the shit..

Yep, they won't prescribe it in Europe either for that reason. Just like rohypnol, those got banned too after many people flipped out on them and/or were raped while on it.

dirtdog

08-31-2007, 05:23 AM

no sweet dreams
Temazepam sucks ass
fuck that shit dude
god damnit....

Zoops

08-31-2007, 05:36 AM

Junkies have big tolerances for most drugs. I think, even if you just do opiates, then the tolerance will sort of come over into other drugs that are "downers" too - like benzo's. I bet if you have a big tol. for opiates, then you prolly can take a boatload of temazepam and still not go to sleep.

The thing you're not considering is the dosage. 30mg will knock most people out, shit 15mg (of temaz.) will, but you're not most people. I gotta take 90mg of temaz. and usually I am still awake, but will go to sleep for the last couple hours of it, 60mg is a "fun" daytime (awake) dosage of temaz. for me.

If you abuse benzo's, alcohol and opiates (or just one or two of the above), then benzo's for sleep is probably not going to work out real great.

Saint

08-31-2007, 05:40 AM

no sweet dreams
Temazepam sucks ass
fuck that shit dude
god damnit....

It's almost like only the opiate-naive get some sleep on them. I know of 2 people that use them and think they're really strong (but they're as straight as the pope).
On the other hand: all opiate-users I know that tried temazepam seem to have the exact same problem: it just doesn't work AT ALL for them. Nothing.

Synack

08-31-2007, 05:46 AM

so I lay here in bed... damnit... this sucks

Saint

08-31-2007, 06:00 AM

so I lay here in bed... damnit... this sucks

You take you PC to bed with you or can you just operate it from your bed? Laptop I guess.
Just trying to keep you busy now that you can't sleep anyways.
I slept a whole 4 hours last night! I look like a fucking ghost from a week with no or little sleep.

underide

08-31-2007, 06:24 AM

^ well done
http://forum.opiophile.org/images/icons/icon11.gif

Synack

08-31-2007, 06:15 PM

Yep, laptop.... used to be a desktop with a projector and a wireless kb and mouse... but I've had to sell some stuff since I moved... no one wants to hire a network admin who can't breathe...lol

chopstix

08-31-2007, 08:38 PM

It's all about SSH and RDP bro.

dirtdog

08-31-2007, 09:57 PM

It's all about SSH and RDP bro.

huh?

dirtdog

08-31-2007, 09:57 PM

Tis gonna be another looooong night

Im downing beers
Maybe the Gods will be kind and let me sleep
but then again

God hates me

wafflehead77

08-31-2007, 10:18 PM

If your doctor is willing to scribe off-label, maybe you could try Seroquel, Thorazine, Compazine, or another of the stronger depressents. They dont have the rec. value of benzo's, but they work. I never take benzo's, and I have a huge tolerance to them. I can easily take 50-80mgs of diazepam, or 10-12 of alprazolam without falling asleep. My doc tried me on the "antipsychotics" (quetiapine, chlorpromazine) and they did what the benzo's couldnt.

I never tried the newer sleep aids (zolpidem, etc) because of cost, so I know where you are coming from.

betmylife

08-31-2007, 10:28 PM

this may sound crude, but try having sex with someone, or at least taking care of it yourself....releases natural stuff hta makes you tireed...........worked for me............peace

BML

OhJoy

08-31-2007, 10:37 PM

I know what you mean. I have a list of things I do. I have sublingual melatonin. I may take a couple of capsuls of kratom and some advil. I have to watch something mindless. I also take ambien on top of all that. Not sure if you are taking that antidepressant, but I've heard they can't cause insomnia.

Take care. (maybe have a bowl of cereal and milk too.)

Saint

09-01-2007, 02:41 AM

Well I started subutex 5 days ago and I can't sleep on it. I upped my dose already, took 40 mgs of serax but nothing. 2 to 4 hours tops every night...

chopstix

09-01-2007, 03:14 AM

no one wants to hire a network admin who can't breathe...lol

It's all about SSH and RDP bro.

huh?

Sorry, I should have quoted Synack - it's geek speak for remote computer administration tools (ie, work from home).. I'm in the same biz..

chopstix

09-01-2007, 03:21 AM

Well I started subutex 5 days ago and I can't sleep on it. I upped my dose already, took 40 mgs of serax but nothing. 2 to 4 hours tops every night...

Hang in there, it will get better. That was a big jump you made, it's gonna take some time to adjust..

Sorry if you mentioned it but how much sub are you taking?

And x2 for sex, even if it isn't mind blowing it really can help you relax for awhile, it helps get the endorphins flowing..

Saint

09-01-2007, 03:53 AM

Synack

09-01-2007, 04:04 AM

It's all about SSH and RDP bro.

Shit, around my new place I've got a 'dummy' terminal in each room, and they all RDP into one main machine running several images through VMware... basically, 6 shitty boxes... and one badass server :)

chopstix

09-01-2007, 10:23 AM

I started on 8 mgs but that still gave me light WD-s. (I only came of 15 mgs of methadone but I used it for 24 years!!). So I upped my dose to 11 mgs. Felt a little better but only for about 8 hours or so.
I Woke up freezing cold and restless at 7 a.m. again.
Problems is that they only have 0.2 mg pills (that's almost 50 pills to take) so that takes for ever .. about 3 hours..
Maybe that's what's causing some problems too..
Just now I got nauseous as hell all of a sudden but also have goosebumps. I can't fucking believe that I would need an even higher dose probably... but this is driving me crazy as well..

btw: I posted a thread on this jump because there aren't much longterm methadoneusers who make this swicth.

I remember seeing the post but it's been awhile, I'm not in this forum much since I ran out of sub (I was getting it off the street.)

15mg MD is a lot. I walked off a program @ 14 after a rapid taper from 45, did dope for a couple weeks and then tried to go ct. After 5 days, it was either hospital or fix, I was too dehydrated and malnourished to continue. I won't ever touch that shit again, at least not for any length of time.

I hope the sub works for you, it's a big jump you're going through. I could tell with the sub that it just wasn't quite hitting all the receptors, you know? And I thought that was good, it forces your system to be a little less numb and a little more productive and receptive. I could feel a lot of the opiate side effects fading and my body slowly adjusting as I took it..

It might take a couple, or maybe even a few months to adjust but I'm sure it'll get better and better. Lots of us find, that after adjusting, really small amounts work just as well or better than doses >4mg (as I'm sure you've read), so hopefully you won't have to take so many pills for too long.. I was really comfortable on 2mg a day after a pretty serious tar run.

G'luck.. After 24years, I'm sure your receptors are probably not too pleased about this switch..

chopstix

09-01-2007, 10:53 AM

Shit, around my new place I've got a 'dummy' terminal in each room, and they all RDP into one main machine running several images through VMware... basically, 6 shitty boxes... and one badass server :)

We're all about laptops these days. I've got a couple ultra-320 RAID cards and some drives that I think I'm gonna use for Freebsd file server and test box. It's been awhile since I've had any real hardware running in this house though, and I don't miss the noise. Not sure how the SCSI thing is gonna work out and I'm trying to figure out how I can dampen the noise as much as possible...

VMWare rocks, I'm not surprised M$ swooped it up like they did (and everything else good).
</complete derailment>

Saint

09-01-2007, 01:44 PM

Thanks Chopsticks, I'll hang in there and give it some time. I'll give an update later.

Synack

09-02-2007, 03:36 AM

We're all about laptops these days. I've got a couple ultra-320 RAID cards and some drives that I think I'm gonna use for Freebsd file server and test box. It's been awhile since I've had any real hardware running in this house though, and I don't miss the noise. Not sure how the SCSI thing is gonna work out and I'm trying to figure out how I can dampen the noise as much as possible...

VMWare rocks, I'm not surprised M$ swooped it up like they did (and everything else good).
</complete derailment>

bah, my post : ) lol

But I still can't sleep.. got a visit on tuesday sometime... I gotta call and verify

evilfix

09-02-2007, 12:49 PM

i hear you. im RXed 30 30mgs. i can take 5 and not even yawn. supposed to be the most euphoric benzo too (wiki). not that i can tell..

but then again my 70mg xanax suicide attempt might have fucked up my benzo tolerance. iv gave friends 4mg of klonopin and they are fucked up the next day. i can take 30mg and barely notice anything.

fuck me.

Ragdoll

09-03-2007, 02:43 AM

Mazzies always worked for me,but if you are in the middle of a kick.........a hammer over the head is about the only way to lose consciousness.

Truly.

Synack

09-03-2007, 04:09 AM

well, assuming my cobra has kicked in - I should have a vist and new scripts on tuesday...

I elected cobra online, and I've got 45 days to make my first payment.. I'm just hoping they'll still cover me before that cash arrives..

plus, 75% of the first payment is money in insurance company owe's me for the out of pocket shit I've been paying...

so what med should I request to sleep? I've tried temazepam and kpins...

chopstix

09-03-2007, 07:05 PM

Ambien works, but doesn't last very long

Lunesta is a lot like ambien, but lasts longer and leaves a funny taste in your mouth in the am - people vary in their ability to tolerate this, didn't bother me too much but not much does..

Aside from that, I'd say 15-30mg Valium, if they'll write for it. If it's what you're after, tell them it's what's worked for you in the past..

All of these drugs are addictive (in spite of what the manufacturer says) so you're looking at a bad habit if you take them nightly. Personally, I'd rather be addicted to pharms than chronically sleep deprived..

vanilla_mlkshake2007

09-03-2007, 07:42 PM

I think the best way to sleep when you are trying to kick is the hammer over the head for real nothing else will work.Now a good way to get sleep while trying to quit from a strong opiate like morphine that always worked for myself was to take 1 vicodin (I know still an opiate ) and 2 somas and a clonidine or two.
After a few nights of this you will find it much easier to cut down on your D.O.C.I personally find getting to sleep cold turkey impossible and I have tons of 10 milligram valiums which won't work for me either.
So take it from someone who had a 1000milligram a day morphine habit(down finally to about 60-90)this is the only thing that worked for me .Keep in mind everyonew's different,but I think 1000mgs.to 60-90 a day in 4 months was a drastic improvement and I hardly suffered a bit..Oh also I took 30-40 milligrams of methadone a day to substitute for the couple vicodins after the first couple nights.Hopde this helps a lil

chopstix

09-03-2007, 08:28 PM

Oh also I took 30-40 milligrams of methadone a day to substitute for the couple vicodins after the first couple nights.Hopde this helps a lil

30-40mg 'done as a substitute for 15-20mg hydro?? Not exactly equivalent.. :rolleyes:

I-Nod

09-03-2007, 09:37 PM

RxQueen

09-03-2007, 11:06 PM

I have some Temazepams here (I believe), but was wondering what strength they might be... they are half green/ half white capsules, w/ the letters: GG and the number 531 below the letters. Anyone know the mg's by chance? Thanks in advance amigos y amigas!!

those are the 15mg ones. de nada!

btw, synack... for sleep, i'd want valium. everyone's different and has different preferences, but it always did good to keep me asleep for the night. of course, it worked so good that i couldn't sleep at all without it for 12 years... but other than the horribly long time it took to come off the stuff, i liked it a lot for my insomnia.

Synack

09-04-2007, 04:09 AM

excellent... my appointment is in less than 13 hours... ::evil laughter:: ...

smojo

09-04-2007, 07:11 AM

excellent... my appointment is in less than 13 hours... ::evil laughter:: ...

Syn,
One final option could be to ask for a muscle relaxant, Tizanidine (Zanaflex). As I previously mentioned, it is the motherload. It typically is Rx'd for patients with MS and Neurological impairments. This drug will knock you out, period. In 50% + patients, it produces SEDATION. (I can't even take it during the day, and my tolerance is enormous). Plus, when with my Ambien CR, the 2 drugs combined, WILL PRODUCE SEDATION, PERIOD. Granted, I've never seen anyone write anything about Tizanidine, guess it is just a Well-kept Secret! I strongly encourage you to consider asking for this option.

Good Luck,
Go well...Stay well...Be well
The Nance

Synack

09-04-2007, 11:40 PM

I mentioned it, and she agreed it's an option, but wanted me to try the rest of the on label meds first...
and also wrote me another 180 roxi 5mg's, and 45 15mg MS ER's TID ... but the roxi's are for 'next month'.. so I've got a few extra OC's..