Fiorinal/Butalbital?

[GoddessofRATs]

Hey all..

Well remember all those pills i found in the old ladies apt i am cleaning. Well one of them was 'Fiorinal', it says;
Butalbital 50 mgs 3/4 gfms, Caffeine 40 mgs, Aspirin 200 mgs and Phanacetin 130 mgs. I know what all of those are except Phanacetin. I actually don't know 100% what Butalbital is except that it is a barbituate, right?

I just read up on line about it but i wanted some Junkies prefessional thoughts on it LOL.

I've always wanted something to take at the end of the day to releax me. As most of you know i am currently on Ms contin. Well, would it be ok to take one of these at the end of the day, or 2 or whatever just to get a nice relaxed feeling to sit back and watch TV? I'm not concerned about the caffeine, i can drink a whole bunch of coffee and still sleep. The aspirin, well 200 mgs isn't that much.

Is it ok to mix with the Ms Contin, just at the end of the day?

I also have the Xanax and Diazepam i found but I'm saving those for withdrawal he he. Man i hit the jackpot when it comes to w/d drugs. I'ts like the Junky-gods granted me a wish for withdrawal he he.


I'm really interested in taking the Phenobarbital but I'll save that for a day i have nothing to do. I'm not totally clear on what those are but i kinda know.

So what do ya think, would the Fiorinal be ok for a relax and kick back pill at night? I don't want to get carried away with all these pills and i DO KNOW better than that but they are great to have on hand. I've always seen these on line when i order Tramadol on line, i think it's called Fioricet though and i always thought about ordering some. There are only 8 in this sample bottele so i want to use them extremely sparingly and just to relax when I've had a bad day. Oh, it says on line it's used primarily for tension headaches.

I still can't believe i found all these semi-wonderful goodies. What a find.

GOR

[GoddessofRATs]

Ok.. UPDATE.

I took 2 about 20 minutes ago and it feels like I've taken a couple Xanax or Valium. I'm starting to feel calm. Boy it kicked in fast. I'll update again in a half an hour and let ya know what I'm feeling. I'm kinda wishing i had found more than 8 of these. But I'm not a big fan of Xanax and Vals, prefer oppies but for relaxing at night i think they'll be nice.

GOR

[Narkotikon]

Hey GoR,

Fiorinal are prescribed for headaches, I think of the tension variety. Fioricet is the same thing but it also has codeine in it. I've only taken them once, two I think it was, and it felt like 1mg of Ativan. It was calming, but nothing overpowering. So, yes, it might be good to relax. The only thing I would worry about it combining them with the MS-Cont, as it will potentiate the effects. But if you're just taking one or two, it shouldn't be a problem. Definately save the benzos for a rainy day. The only other thing is make sure that you're not going to be drug tested, as I'm sure your PM doc would be worried if he saw a positive barbituate result. IMO, not taking them and still getting the MS would be better than taking them and having the MS taken away. Hope you're having fun. I'm on my fifth rum and coke. It's calming, but not what I want.

[GoddessofRATs]

oh yea i know. I won't be tested till 30 days from now if at all. But thanks for the concern.

So yea, you're right i feel like i took a low dose of Benzo's, nothing spectacular but i am having problems typing, strange lol.

GOR

[kyuss]

oh yea i know. I won't be tested till 30 days from now if at all. But thanks for the concern.

So yea, you're right i feel like i took a low dose of Benzo's, nothing spectacular but i am having problems typing, strange lol.

GOR


Ha!
Enjoy it.


Good to see you Nark

[GoddessofRATs]

I am lol!!! Good end to a long hard day.

[bronyraur]

Hey GoR,

Fiorinal are prescribed for headaches, I think of the tension variety. Fioricet is the same thing but it also has codeine in it.

Minor correction: Fiorinal contains aspirin (ASA); Fioricet contains acetaminophen (tylenol) (APAP).

Each version comes in "codeine flavor", which has "with codeine" after the name. Like Fiorinal with codeine (great for headaches).

[Narkotikon]

^^^^ My bad. Thanks for the correction.

[Ale]

Butalbital 50 mgs 3/4 gfms, Caffeine 40 mgs, Aspirin 200 mgs and Phanacetin 130 mgs. I know what all of those are except Phanacetin. I actually don't know 100% what Butalbital is except that it is a barbituate, right?

Uhmm..it's PhEnacetin not Phanacetin..it's basically nothing but an NSAID used as an analgesic and-as many NSAID's like Acetylsalicylic Acid(the compound known under the brand name "Aspirin®")-also as a fever reducer.It has been widely used for those purposes until around the middle 70's..even though-due to its depressant action on the heart and some carcinogenic properties-it's been replaced with other non-carcinogenic NSAID's considered way safer(the ones we use nowadays).Oh..I forgot..due to its similar phisical features to Cocaine it's largely used as a cutting agent.All in all...being only 130mg I wouldn't worry that much..actually I don't even see the point of using such a small amount sonsidering that the effective dosage is somewhere in between 300/600mg to obtain the desired analgesic effect(which is what it's supposed to give out in this specific case since we're talking about an analgesic drug).

[GoddessofRATs]

So last night i ended up taking to more of the Fiorinal and i didn't feel much and what i did feel i didn't care for. So a few hours later i decided to take 10 of the 2mg Diazepam and omg i i felt so darn good. USually i need a lot more than 10 mgs of vals to feel good, usually i need like 40 mgs but i haven't taken a val in a good 7 years so maybe that's why. I don't think i even needed 10 mgs, i probably would have gotten high and feelin' good on 6-8 mgs.

One thing i don't like about Benzo's and mostly Vals is that i can feel that shit the next day, i still feel it now and it slows me down. When i took my MS contin i could still feel the valium in my system. It has a 10 hour half life, right?

I'm not taking any tonight though. Not sure what I'll take tonight but i didn't really care for the fiorinal, it felt a lot like a benzo but slightly different.

All together i don't care for Benzo's but i do like having them on hand for relaxing at night and at night only and of course having them for w/d's Those vals were over 10 years old and they were potent as heck. But, this was a clinicl bottle not a pharmacy bottle, it was still sealed up with the cotton in it and everything so no air has touched it which is why it's still so potent. The xanax i found are also still sealed up.

Anyway... i had a very nice evening last night, just kicked back and watched the "Most haunted" DVD's i rented from NEtflix.

GOR

[melancholy]

if i remember correctly, you said you found donnatal which is not strictly phenobarbital. i was prescribed donnatal for heroin withdrawal (the shits) and it gets its name from having belladona extracts in it. if i remember correctly, there isn't much phenobarbital in it either so i don't know how recreational it's gonna be.

[GoddessofRATs]

I'm not worried about it. If it's crappy oh well. I haven't even taken any and probably won't for a long time. I'll save for w/d.

GOR

[Flagg]

Butalbital is a barbiturate. In Fioricet form (without codeine) it isn't even scheduled, so feel free to load your back seat up with bottles of them. You can pick this up from online pharmacies; some even have half-decent markups. I get these for my explosive migraines (and for a good time).

One or two of these won't do much but murder a headche; however, Fioricet can be CWE'd; I've done it plenty of times. If you wanna get a "good" effect, all you need to do is put four in a cup, dump a third of a Coke can of water over it, watch the pills dissolve, stick it into the freezer for twenty minutes, filter out the Tylenol (or what-have-you), drink the water, enjoy an interesting buzz. I've gone up to six, but if you haven't taken them before this might be too strong, and the caffeine is up to the two-cups-of-coffee level.

I usually dump some Nurofen Plus (the ibuprofen with codeine from New Zealand) in my "drug mug", four to six of these Fioricet with about 120-200mg of codeine banged down like a shot after CWE is, in fact, how I use nowadays here in the middle of nowhere. It's actually a better ride than you'd think.

[Ale]

One thing i don't like about Benzo's and mostly Vals is that i can feel that shit the next day, i still feel it now and it slows me down. When i took my MS contin i could still feel the valium in my system. It has a 10 hour half life, right?
Nope,wrong.It has a half-life ranging from 20 to 100 hours..let alone the active metabolites(they can turn that range into 36 to 200) in fact Diazepam is the longest acting kind of Benzodiazepine out there..you should prolly just stick with the short-acting benzo's such as Alprazolam(Xanax®) or Triazolam(Halcion®)these two compounds have a pretty high potency as it only takes 0.5mg of both of them to reach the effectiveness of 10mg of Diazpeam(Valium®) and they both have a really short half-life ranging from 2Hrs(Triazolam) to 6-10 Hrs.(Alprazolam) so that you won't feel them the next day.

[GoddessofRATs]

Thanks for all the info :)

GOR

[OpiGuRu729]

I have like 10 sealed bottle's of Fioricet w/Codeine i don't take them that often, but they do work great for headache's and migraine's as mentioned in some of the previous response's... But, I have also found they work Excellent for Hangover's, usually i dont need to take anything for hangover's except my normal thing, but if i have an extra "fun" night and drink a little to much, these baby's usually bring the life right back into me from the worst hangover's...