Question About Abilify

[Opilover]

I was perscribed Abilify today and was wondering if anyone has had any expirience with this drug good or bad. I don't like taking stuff I'm not sure of any info would be greatly appreciated...Thanks All

[Duckfeet]

I just got that perscribed to, by the V.A. for PTSD or some shit...but I haven't taken it, and probably won't unless u or somebody says how good it makes'em feel. It's part of an experiemental program here, and they pay us and give us really thorough lab tests. I don't take it, because I find that methadone, taken daily, does what all these psyche drugs are supposed to do...I'll be interested in if anybody is taking this...V.A. is always treats its nutted up vets like guinea pigs so the shrinks can get published....best wishes to you...



I was perscribed Abilify today and was wondering if anyone has had any expirience with this drug good or bad. I don't like taking stuff I'm not sure of any info would be greatly appreciated...Thanks All

[Opilover]

I just got that perscribed to, by the V.A. for PTSD or some shit...but I haven't taken it, and probably won't unless u or somebody says how good it makes'em feel. It's part of an experiemental program here, and they pay us and give us really thorough lab tests. I don't take it, because I find that methadone, taken daily, does what all these psyche drugs are supposed to do...I'll be interested in if anybody is taking this...V.A. is always treats its nutted up vets like guinea pigs so the shrinks can get published....best wishes to you...


Well after I research it some more I'm gonna try it and I'll let you know what it's like and if you try it before me I'd appreciate the same..we'll keep each other informed....Good Luck to you as well

[Somanax]

Is This Abilify or abilisys??

seen it before recently

Might help on your search ??

What do I know you got the rx

[Duckfeet]

Abilify, also known as Aripiprazole. Was given out for bipolar and psychosis shit. Now being thrown at vets who had psychotic episodes as a result of combat neurosis. It's experimental w/this. They do lots of lab work, give me twenty bucks and good brekfast once every couple of months. Before gave out Navane and then Respiridone, I think...give along with anti-depressants and other junk. A lot of this stuff goes elsewhere than my belly. Opiates do what this stuff is supposed to do...but to give'em credit, I"ve never tried this yet...just get it perscribed and look at it...


Is This Abilify or abilisys??

seen it before recently

Might help on your search ??

What do I know you got the rx

[OxyContinuously]

yep Abilify is a psych drug, but it's not an SSRI like Prozac or Zoloft....it's one of those hardcore nutter butter things like "risperidone" and the like...from what i understand Abilify is given for a lot of stuff tho...like schizophrenia, bipolar, psychoses and stuff like that...so it has a pretty wide prescribing spectrum, dont have any experience with it, so Icouldn't tell ya what it does or feels like...

[Duckfeet]

Yeah, the V.A. gives it as a replacement/alternative to respiridone. But they are doing experiment with it. I sign up simply because then they pay yah, plus give better lab work...V.A. is really way down on the list of pysche hospitals. Like most of'em they just wanna keep vets quiet. Which is why any vet who goes to hospital is immediately put on haldol or trazadone...cuz they keep u quiet. What they perscribe and what I actually take are two different animals.

[OxyContinuously]

Yeah, the V.A. gives it as a replacement/alternative to respiridone. But they are doing experiment with it. I sign up simply because then they pay yah, plus give better lab work...V.A. is really way down on the list of pysche hospitals. Like most of'em they just wanna keep vets quiet. Which is why any vet who goes to hospital is immediately put on haldol or trazadone...cuz they keep u quiet. What they perscribe and what I actually take are two different animals.


Yeah, I hear that, DF :-)

I forgot to add in my previous post that Abilify seems to be the new "wonder" drug treatment for ceratin mental illnesses-- like I said a whole spectrum; as a matter of fact, I have heard of it being given to children even, as part of their "ADHD treatment program" especially those yougsters that exhibit "manic" behavior....

The medical community touts it as a great treatment for schizophrenia and related, and it supposedly has less side effects than "risperidone" and "seroquel" or even "clozapine." So I guess that's still up in the air--> u know how these anti-depresasnts/psych drugs are: sometimes they are a blessing, but more often than not, they are a nightmare of side effects and stuff like that...thing is, even the medical people really don't know very much about how the human brain works, so a lot of these meds are experimental at best...

take it easy
later

Oxy

[Duckfeet]

Yeah, I'm kind of going thru this thing of fighting with myself--and others--over this. Because I know that whatever mental troubles I'm afflicted with, seem to generally be made right by opiates. But at the same time I'm a libertarian, and tend to balk at the whole "disease concept" crap of addiction. My attitude is that I've been persecuted most of my adult life for something that is not society's business. And I feel labeling me an "addict," is just more of the same. Until I can get legal heroin, we'll never know. Because I got a pension a long time ago when I nutted up after a long time in a war zone...but it was the same place I discovered heroin, and I've always been able to function fine in society, as long as I had a good supply of strong opiates. Whether that was heroin or dilaudid, it was the same result.

whenever I try the other anti-depressants and such, I dont' really notice any difference, but it's been to my advantage to play that game, and sometimes I think I try to beleive it myself, and I get a pension for it...but I don't know, something doesn't quite sit right...Arrogant tho it sounds, I always think my problem is more philosophical, and every once in a while I'll read a writer, or meet somebody on here, or somewhere, who sees the world the same way.

I mean, in the old days, it was considered normal among chinese, u got older and life got tougher, u smoked yer opium pipe in the evenings...shit.

I'm listening to Dwight Yokum sing Carmelita w/Flaco Jimenez playing accordian in the background. Makes me miss S. Texas for some reason....

Oh well, funny thing, I'm off for my visit with my shrink...see yah...

[OxyContinuously]

Yeah, I'm kind of going thru this thing of fighting with myself--and others--over this. Because I know that whatever mental troubles I'm afflicted with, seem to generally be made right by opiates. But at the same time I'm a libertarian, and tend to balk at the whole "disease concept" crap of addiction. My attitude is that I've been persecuted most of my adult life for something that is not society's business. And I feel labeling me an "addict," is just more of the same. Until I can get legal heroin, we'll never know. Because I got a pension a long time ago when I nutted up after a long time in a war zone...but it was the same place I discovered heroin, and I've always been able to function fine in society, as long as I had a good supply of strong opiates. Whether that was heroin or dilaudid, it was the same result.

whenever I try the other anti-depressants and such, I dont' really notice any difference, but it's been to my advantage to play that game, and sometimes I think I try to beleive it myself, and I get a pension for it...but I don't know, something doesn't quite sit right...Arrogant tho it sounds, I always think my problem is more philosophical, and every once in a while I'll read a writer, or meet somebody on here, or somewhere, who sees the world the same way.

I mean, in the old days, it was considered normal among chinese, u got older and life got tougher, u smoked yer opium pipe in the evenings...shit.

I'm listening to Dwight Yokum sing Carmelita w/Flaco Jimenez playing accordian in the background. Makes me miss S. Texas for some reason....

Oh well, funny thing, I'm off for my visit with my shrink...see yah...

Yeah, I definitely can relate to that, Duck...Because I know I don't have nearly the experience that you do, and haven't travelled as much as you (like I always picture how beautiful places like Nicaragua, and Argentina, and even SoCal, for that matter must be, you know?) I hear you when you say that whatever seems to be "wrong" with you (and I put wrong in quotes,. cause there's nothing "wrong" with ya', just what "the man" says; I mean that since we live in a society where being addicted to an opiate (heroin, morph, oxy, it doesn't matter, nor does it matter if someone snorts, eats, or injects it) is viewed an udesirable by the powers that be [the "suits" as I like to say, LOL], we right away get the short end of the stick...and I don't like that, nor do I like the fact that it seems to be society's business what you, or I, or anyone else decided to put into his or her own body, you know?

I am the same as you in the sense that without opiates, I feel like *shit* and life in general is pretty bland, and I actually sometimes get very depressed about it, you know? But then, if I have my OC, or morphine, or whatever the case may be, I am suddenly "cured," so to speak, and seem to kick the blues...(like Clapton, when he sings about "u got bad news, u wanna kick the blues..Co-caine.." For, me, it's the same idea, except substitute in opiates for the coke) I have seen psychiatrists, privately and through work (it's required, every yr. we have a physical, and an "eval") and they have tried the anti-depressants, and like you, I listen to them, let them say their piece, but it becomes plainly evident to me that most psychiatrists and such really have no idea what I, or you, or anyone else is feeling, and they prescribe these SSRi's, and Maoi's and a lot of other stuff ending in "i," without a real understanding of what is going on---what's *really* going on, I mean, not just symptoms that can be masked by serotonin or dopamine that most anti-depressants work with...The only thing that really did provide some relief for me and was prescribed from a shrink was Xanax, which I do believe is very helpful (when used responsibly; for example I know some people like getting high on it or whatever, but I use it sparingly, you know--when I feel I really *need* it; and it does alleviate anxiety very well.) and have an "as needed" prescription that I keep in my desk drawer at work, just in case. But that's about it. Besides that, the doctors have told me things *they* think is wrong, and have given me explanations right out of the DSM-4 and such, without really understanding what I go through every day, regarding the dependence and/or addiction to opiates...

I agree with you, too, regarding the philosophical issues. For me, I have a big problem with how society views addiction, the people afflicted, and their hap-hazard way of "treating" us... and like you, DF, I also am fine with the nice opiate supply--> it's when they run out that I start experiencing problems. Honestly, I tried to learn as much as I could about addiction and its processes over the years. For example, there has been more than one time, that during withdrawal, I felt like killing myself...now, if I was not as knowledgable as I am about what opiate addiction can do and the havoc it can wreak on the mind, I assure you I would have been dead before my 23rd birthday. I think it's wrong for the government (the "suits," LOL) to label you, or me, or anyone an "addict" or anything else. Frankly, that's our business...

Anyway, thanks for reading; it felt good to un-load a little bullshit that has been on my mind recently, and even nicer to be telling someone like you, DF, who knows what I mean, and can relate to what i am saying...;)

take care
much respect
later

Oxy