Time to get BIG!!! [Archive]

The_Highwayman

08-12-2007, 06:23 AM

Haven't touched juice in over two years and my receptors are now drooling for it, I am getting in great shape thanks to a regimented weight lifting program and my job as a bike security officer, the juice came and it's time to have fun, grow out of some clothes and throw around some steel!!!!

Black_Pony

08-12-2007, 05:29 PM

Ya! I want to get BIG too. I do it 'au naturale' myself which means I can only get so big, but you're getting me stoked to go back to the gym.

You need to go vote in my Barry Bonds thread. Damn, you'd be surprised how many junkies jump on their high horse (no pun intended) when it comes to juicing...

A little hypocritical if you ask me. :cool:

Hammilton

08-12-2007, 05:40 PM

lol. Maybe I'm missing something, but why would you get excited to take steroids? What do they do for you, psychoactively, besides get you pissed off?

and junkies aren't cheating or getting rich off of the game. I dunno, I'm conflicted on the whole thing. On one hand, the MLB has done so much to get kids interested in the game, sponsoring bat nights, kids nights, having players go to schools to talk with kids. I forget what show I saw it on, but some commentator made a comment (what else would he do?) that went something like "hey son, why don't we go throw a ball around? You need to practice really hard so that when you're older you can start using steroids and get really good." I can see why parents would get really upset about it. Little kids everywhere look up to these guys and want to be ballplayers just like them.

But then again, if they want to use steroids, that should be their choice, no?

the MLB has every right to kick them out though if they want. Maybe there can be a Steroid League, and a "au naturale" league. Then every year they can have an all-star game and we can bet on them. Who do you wanna bet on?

WarmCyanide

08-12-2007, 05:50 PM

lol. Maybe I'm missing something, but why would you get excited to take steroids? What do they do for you, psychoactively, besides get you pissed off?

if he likes em, he likes em
if you dont, you dont

to each his own hammilton. no disrespect to you and your opinion is ok too

highwayman, do roids really shrink testicles? it may help you be more nimble on the bike hardehar

Duckfeet

08-12-2007, 05:51 PM

My whole thing w/not seeing Bonds the same as the Babe is that they don't admit it, now. If Barry'ed just come out and say, "yeah I juiced and fuck u if u don't like it!", *then* he'd be like the Babe, and I'd say yeah, go Barry, tell'em to stuff it. But they want it both ways, want little kiddies to think they drink milk and eat cheerios and don't hang out w/bad girls, and still want the added boost they get from steroids. Thing we don't like is hypocrites...legalize *all* of it for everybody, and quit trying to act like saints...

smojo

08-12-2007, 05:54 PM

5 mint. before reading this, was just telling my S.O. I have GOT to focus, do my static stretches/exercise TONIGHT and STICK with the program!!! Just start this time and DO NOT QUIT. Got to get more limber, flexible, and strengthen this bod. Thanks, timing of this thread was perfection. Needed this and all the empowerment I can muster.

CIIORNOTHING

08-13-2007, 09:59 AM

Im on permanantly. Im on 250mg Testosterone Enanthate per week indefinately, and am currentlh running 100mg Trenbolone a day for about the next 8 weeks. Ive been an athlete my whole life and I be damned if Im going to stand by and let father time steal my sex drive and my muscle mass and my zest for life. A mans testosterone levels start to decline in his freaking 30s. No wonder by the time we are 50 we feel like shit and look like shit and could care less about pussy. Not this old boy. Nope, not me.

And by the way, with my doses, there is no noticeable difference in the size of my balls. My cum loads are much smaller than nornal, but my wife doesnt mind that :) My sex drive is though the roof and my recovery time is less than 3 minutes, sometimes none at all. There are times when I can just keep going. Im telling you, I beleive every man over the age of 35 needs to be on testosterone replacement. It will be the norm in another 10 years. There are already plenty of doctors out there Rxing today......its life changing.

bronyraur

08-13-2007, 10:43 AM

CIIORNOTHING

08-13-2007, 11:44 AM

[begin sarcasm]

Awesome! Shrinking testicles and acne!

That rocks!

[end sarcasm]

For those who know what they are doing, the side effects liek acne, hair loss, bloating, etc can be managed by taking an anti-estrogen. Doing steroids are no different than doing opiates. You cant be a fucking idiiot and just start playing with it our else you can kill youself. Knowledge is key.

aj11

08-13-2007, 12:01 PM

or should the title of the thread be
Time for my nuts to get tiny?

Paregoric Kid

08-13-2007, 01:04 PM

I'm sorry to be off topic but does anyone else find it ironic that he's talking about steroids and getting big and his avatar is Kurt Cobain.

Black_Pony

08-13-2007, 01:17 PM

Very much so, actually. I've never seen that particular pic of him, and I thought I'd seen them ALL. I was assuming it wasn't him just due to the fact I've never seen the picture.

Who knows, maybe I have and just don't remember. My big 'I love Kurt phase' really kicked in back when he died. Getting to be a long time ago, now...

Gun to the fucken head, thats how I'd like to go (next to an over dose of course, that would be my number one choice). Close second.

I'm sorry to be off topic but does anyone else find it ironic that he's talking about steroids and getting big and his avatar is Kurt Cobain.

Duckfeet

08-13-2007, 01:43 PM

I thought about getting my feelings hurt on this post: I'm teasing and I like that u brought it up...I look good and my muscles are strong and...oh well, I'm *56* and yer right in so many ways: getting old does/can suck, but I've always tried to be hard-nosed about seeing life as it is, not as I wish it was, and trying to avoid getting old can look pretty stupid. I've seen older guys with wigs and a little makeup and trying to act like teenagers, and you know that there is something, I don't know,"pathetic" about it. That's why I always try to be up-front. I believe that whatever good-will, friendship, and respect I get on Opiophile is because I *don't* try to act fifteen, and I catch myself when I start trying to act hip and young... I actually think there is a shortage of older junkies, like me, and when yer young u need somebody who understands, who's been there. So I"d rather be old uncle duckfeet, than a phony...

I'm a bigwave bodysurfer, and what respect I get in real life, here in Ocean Beach, is because I'll go out in the middle of the winter on freezing days and catch these huge winter swell waves. But that will end, sooner, rather than later, and I hope I accept that, get me a little surfmatt and paddle out, but stay in the ocean until I drop. It's the one good thing...

There are women that like me, but I'm not too attracted to'em, and I don't want to be like my dad, who was always chasing young women, and pretending to himself that they were attracted to him. So I live alone.... But I love life..I can look out my door of my cottage and see the pacific ocean. I've got a beautiful neighbor who keeps getting her heart broke and is my pal. I wouldn't want to be anyone but me...

But I actually think this whole youth/old age thing is much harder on women. Our culture *is* so obsessed with physical beauty, and I know women that are heartbreaking in their beauty when they're young, and my girl was like that. People would stop in the street and look at her...and she got old in prison, poor thing....and the one thing I couldn't give her was youth and beauty, so I don't know, if steroids do it for you, no sweat. I've never tried'em, and doubt I will.

Because when it boils down to it, I"m a libertarian. Both politically, and just philosophically. I don't think it's really any of my business what people choose to put in their bodies. And if when u look in the mirror u feel better than good on yah...

Good topic, really, since maybe dope use is an attempt to stop time...and eventually u pay the piper...

Im on permanantly. Im on 250mg Testosterone Enanthate per week indefinately, and am currentlh running 100mg Trenbolone a day for about the next 8 weeks. Ive been an athlete my whole life and I be damned if Im going to stand by and let father time steal my sex drive and my muscle mass and my zest for life. A mans testosterone levels start to decline in his freaking 30s. No wonder by the time we are 50 we feel like shit and look like shit and could care less about pussy. Not this old boy. Nope, not me.

And by the way, with my doses, there is no noticeable difference in the size of my balls. My cum loads are much smaller than nornal, but my wife doesnt mind that :) My sex drive is though the roof and my recovery time is less than 3 minutes, sometimes none at all. There are times when I can just keep going. Im telling you, I beleive every man over the age of 35 needs to be on testosterone replacement. It will be the norm in another 10 years. There are already plenty of doctors out there Rxing today......its life changing.

ampoule

08-13-2007, 02:45 PM

try 'TURBOLAX'. it wont mess your head up but your fucking trousers will never recover!

CIIORNOTHING

08-13-2007, 03:19 PM

I thought about getting my feelings hurt on this post: I'm teasing and I like that u brought it up...I look good and my muscles are strong and...oh well, I'm *56* and yer right in so many ways: getting old does/can suck, but I've always tried to be hard-nosed about seeing life as it is, not as I wish it was, and trying to avoid getting old can look pretty stupid. I've seen older guys with wigs and a little makeup and trying to act like teenagers, and you know that there is something, I don't know,"pathetic" about it. That's why I always try to be up-front. I believe that whatever good-will, friendship, and respect I get on Opiophile is because I *don't* try to act fifteen, and I catch myself when I start trying to act hip and young... I actually think there is a shortage of older junkies, like me, and when yer young u need somebody who understands, who's been there. So I"d rather be old uncle duckfeet, than a phony...

I'm a bigwave bodysurfer, and what respect I get in real life, here in Ocean Beach, is because I'll go out in the middle of the winter on freezing days and catch these huge winter swell waves. But that will end, sooner, rather than later, and I hope I accept that, get me a little surfmatt and paddle out, but stay in the ocean until I drop. It's the one good thing...

There are women that like me, but I'm not too attracted to'em, and I don't want to be like my dad, who was always chasing young women, and pretending to himself that they were attracted to him. So I live alone.... But I love life..I can look out my door of my cottage and see the pacific ocean. I've got a beautiful neighbor who keeps getting her heart broke and is my pal. I wouldn't want to be anyone but me...

But I actually think this whole youth/old age thing is much harder on women. Our culture *is* so obsessed with physical beauty, and I know women that are heartbreaking in their beauty when they're young, and my girl was like that. People would stop in the street and look at her...and she got old in prison, poor thing....and the one thing I couldn't give her was youth and beauty, so I don't know, if steroids do it for you, no sweat. I've never tried'em, and doubt I will.

Because when it boils down to it, I"m a libertarian. Both politically, and just philosophically. I don't think it's really any of my business what people choose to put in their bodies. And if when u look in the mirror u feel better than good on yah...

Good topic, really, since maybe dope use is an attempt to stop time...and eventually u pay the piper...

I absolutely hear where you are coming from. There is nothing worse than the old dude trying to act 18 and looking like a total idiot. Where I am coming from is a totally different place. To look at me, Im not a bodybuilder or athlete anymore. Im just an average 36 year old (maye slightly built but not muscle bound by any means) husband and father. Im not stylish, drive a peice of shit truck, dont chase women, madly in love with my wife and live for my 13 year old son. But what I am is a man who feels good again and feels good about ME. I feel all the energy and stamina and life that I did in my teens and early twenties. Now is there a price to be paid for that? Probably so. But if its the last 10 years of my life Im cutting off, so that I can feel young and vibrant for as long as possible, I choose that. Testosterone is the hormone that makes a man a man. Its what kicks in at about 13 years old and turns a boy into a man and awakens all those thoughts and emotions and of course the physical part. Why should we be content to allow those levels to decline as early as 30 years old and by 50 be half what they were at 25? Why allow that, when one injection per week can keep us feeling vibrant and young and strong? Women have been taking hormone replacement for years so that they can maintain thier sexuality and normalcy. Why shouldnt men do the same?

I will never be that 50 year old in the tight jeans and corvette. But I will be that 50 year that still feels damn good and confident with his shirt off while mowing my front yard. To me, life is all about how I feel about me, not how others feel about me. Ive never been one to give a fuck what others think. I need to love me so that others can.

edit- and clearly, though Im sure it goes without saying, Im someone who enjoys living on the fringe and doing things that are out of the norm. Im a 9-5 white collar by all appearances, who happens to shoot D in mens room from time to time. Who'd a thunk it?

bronyraur

08-13-2007, 03:50 PM

For those who know what they are doing, the side effects liek acne, hair loss, bloating, etc can be managed by taking an anti-estrogen. Doing steroids are no different than doing opiates. You cant be a fucking idiiot and just start playing with it our else you can kill youself. Knowledge is key.

Is a doctor Rx-ing you the 'roids? Or are just fooling around in the medicine cabinet (not that there's anything wrong with that)?

Chipdorq

08-13-2007, 04:07 PM

This thread is cool. I really like the discussion re: steroids being a drug, so why would we o-philes shun it. As a little guy who's been picked on from time to time, I've always been tempted to juice. I got into cycling and my legs got really powerful, and i've always wanted to do the same to my (noodle-y) upper body. Problem is: you can't lift weights to get to work. I can bike to a location, but i'm too ADD for the gym. I joined a gym, and got some results, but not enough to keep me going. But this thread also reminds me I have to hit the gym this week. sorry for rambling, and you should watch the TLC special "The Man Whose Arm Exploded". good shit....

CSiiSEQ

08-13-2007, 05:57 PM

lol. Maybe I'm missing something, but why would you get excited to take steroids?

I thought he was talking about methadone - at least that's what juice is where I've been. Drug names get soooo confusing sometimes, which reminds me of something I meant to post in the h forum.

Duckfeet

08-13-2007, 06:05 PM

I think it's good that it came up, too. Interesting topic, and I didn't know shit about it. I think it's fascinating...plus, it is kind of interesting how junkies, even me, can get all puritanical about other drugs LOL...

Black_Pony

08-13-2007, 07:00 PM

I know. Surprised the shit outta me too, brother!

I think it's good that it came up, too. Interesting topic, and I didn't know shit about it. I think it's fascinating...plus, it is kind of interesting how junkies, even me, can get all puritanical about other drugs LOL...

WarmCyanide

08-13-2007, 07:22 PM

ive gotta stick up for highway man on this one.

has anyone here been looked down upon for taking something that may change them in a way the

person judging feels is negative? drug judging is not what opiophile is about (unless he's talking about ODing

on the shit) i just think we shouldn't knock the guy. after all, in a months time

he will be able to kick all of our asses.

next time you see a ripped security guard on a bike. run.

CIIORNOTHING

08-14-2007, 09:54 AM

I was never small. I was 6'1" 280 in high school and played high school ball. But once I turned about 30 and hadnt really taken very good care of myself and partied through my twenties I was about 310 and grossly fat. The crazy thing was, I used a lot drugs (coke, opies, etc) and didnt really hardly ever eat and was still just fat and flabby. Thats when I went to the doc and he determnined my testosterone was kind of low. So in answer to the question, yes a doc has me on the testosterone, but the other susbtance im tkaing right now is not approved for humans in the US and I get it online. When I started this whoile thing I was about 310lbs at 35% body fat and today Im about 250lb at 18% body fat and look like a different person. I have no desire whatsoever to be cut or ripped or some bodybuilder freak, I just want to look good and feel good when Im with my family at the pool or the beach, thats it. I cant be fun and enjoy my family if Im feeling all shitty about myself. Ive never been afraid of drugs of any kind so i guess its just natural that I got involved with steroids as well every other drug known to man or beast.

Im certainly not condoning people usiong this stuff because I put alot of research into it before I did it and there are a lot of side effects from Testosterone that have to be managed with other drugs. Testosterone causes a rapid rise in Estrogen in men, and that causes men to grow tits, loose hair, and get acne. Cant have that so you have to take an anti-etrogen drug. Many dont know that and thts why they are all bloated up and covered in acne and grow boobs. You have to educate yourself on this just as you would before you started banging dope. Its your life you playing with after all.....

And by the way, steroid users have forums exactly like this, actually that use this exact some software. Im a a member there too :)

Duckfeet

08-14-2007, 10:11 AM

Plus, thing about Opiophile, is that no drug get total slack on here. People give their opinions on methadone maintenance, buprenorphine...and god help u if u say u like darvocet LOL(I did)...so my take on juice use is that when u throw it out on this forum it's open season. It helps me evaluate my own take on shit when I hear what other people take...but I don't loose any sleep over what other people injest. the guy I *knew* who used to be on this shit was bug-eyed and always looking at his muscles, so that was my only experience, and I can't relate real good. In the good old days, when u could buy any drug u wanted from Sears&Roebuck, public opinion was how we decided things. Now we have experts and law enforcement, and what an improvement that has been ;-)

CIIORNOTHING

08-14-2007, 11:56 AM

Everybody lives in thiere own little box and sometimes tends to think whatever has happened in thier little box is how things are everywhere all over the world. Nothing could be further from the truth. You would surprised how many succesful MD's are on steroids, not to mention opiates :)

It takes all kinds, and to each his or her own.

Duckfeet

08-14-2007, 02:53 PM

Oh I agree: I know is just an area that fascinates a lot of us, because we *don't* know anything except, like me, maybe one clown who was on it, and just like with opiates, all u hear about are the *bad* stories. I think a lot of us have been learning with this thread.

Everybody lives in thiere own little box and sometimes tends to think whatever has happened in thier little box is how things are everywhere all over the world. Nothing could be further from the truth. You would surprised how many succesful MD's are on steroids, not to mention opiates :)

It takes all kinds, and to each his or her own.

CIIORNOTHING

08-14-2007, 02:59 PM

WarmCyanide

08-14-2007, 06:07 PM

wow. cool thread indeed. and noone acted like a prick. we rock.

tui

08-14-2007, 06:45 PM

Its all good. Life is all about learning. If I can ever help someone not kll themselves with steroids or morphine either one, I surely will try. I wish I had never touched either one, but tonight I will go home and inject both. Wish I could stop, but well.......I wish I could.

just out of interest... what does injecting steriods feel like? is there any rush at all? is it an intravenous or intramuscular shot? i know nothing about this stuff.

hmmm... wonder how tui'd look with some muscles?? j/k!!
;)

Duckfeet

08-14-2007, 07:54 PM

Which of course brings me to this question: those muscle-bound women u see on the cover of the bodybuilding magazines: do they take steroids too...or is it just men?

just out of interest... what does injecting steriods feel like? is there any rush at all? is it an intravenous or intramuscular shot? i know nothing about this stuff.

hmmm... wonder how tui'd look with some muscles?? j/k!!
;)

GOLD N DIEMONDS

08-14-2007, 08:19 PM

just out of interest... what does injecting steriods feel like? is there any rush at all? is it an intravenous or intramuscular shot? i know nothing about this stuff.

hmmm... wonder how tui'd look with some muscles?? j/k!!
;)

It is an IM shot, usually in butt. Requires a big rig too, 20-22g. First few times can hurt a bit. No rush but over the next few days as the test.builds up in blood system there is a noticeable 'glow' that accompanies it. How would you look? AWESOME!. Women have small amounts of testosterone in their system naturally. Just keep to very low doses. Anabolic steroids are also available in an oral pill form and time released patch.
Also, I would have to say 'ROID RAGE is one of the many myths that surround steroid. Physically abusive assholes just use steroids as their excuse.
Yes interest thread, funny to see many otherwise very knowledgeable types buy into the myths and gov't anti-steroid propaganda when talking about drugs that are not there DOC. I have been through many steroid "cycles" in low to moderately high doses, with absolutely none of the acne, testicle shrinkage etc. side effects. AGREE with the above poster in that KNOWLEDGE is key in successful outcome. Like with anything do your research beforehand
DF- yes ALL the pro woman are using riods, just no way are that to attain the sizes. It no just riods nowadays, There are many cocktails that are used HGM (human growth hormone) and riods is pretty standard with bodybuilders, athletes, Hollywood actors.
Speaking of, Isn't funny how Barry Bonds gets dumped on. Yet the GOVERNOR of CA, a long time STEROID ABUSER gets a free pass. Never see it get mentioned.(probably for the best)
THANKS FOR THE THREAD HIGHWAY MAN, got me thinking again as it has been more than a few years for this growing old too soon man.

PS- what does liking Kurt Cobain and liking weight training have to do with each other? oh the ironic bias.

The_Highwayman

08-15-2007, 03:35 PM

First, I forgotten more about anabolic steroids than most people know. I am extremely careful when I use them and the other drugs that I putinto my body, I rarely am reckless in that regard. The hormones I use and dosages are in safe range and know how they react to my body.

Second, opiates that we all use are designed overall for what, as a medicvations or drugs are to improve quality of life, whether that means to decrease the pain you feel or give a euphoric feeling. Steroids to the same, they improve you physically and mentally in some aspects with some of the drugs. Moderation is key.

I have never had testicular atrophy. This is becasue I stay on reasonable dosages for short periods of time with proper post cycle therapy, all I ever experience is adefinite increase in sex drive and performance.

Third, for the Cobain avatar.....In the book "Heavier Than Heaven" Kurt's friend Dylan Carlson made a comment documented in the book how Kurt wehn doing heroin gotten over his fear of needles so much so, that he had asked Dyl;an to find him some "illegal injectable steroids"......

Bottom line, is that this is the LAST palce I thought things like this would be judged, by we fear what we do not understand and I am sure some of you do not understand why somenone would want to imprvoe theiur physiucal stature, that's fine I just never didn't.............

The_Highwayman

08-15-2007, 03:37 PM

just out of interest... what does injecting steriods feel like? is there any rush at all? is it an intravenous or intramuscular shot? i know nothing about this stuff.

hmmm... wonder how tui'd look with some muscles?? j/k!!
;)

IM injection, no rush or anything..........just a little soreness due to the oil the hormone is suspended in

OxyContinuously

08-15-2007, 03:40 PM

Duckfeet

08-15-2007, 04:05 PM

Shit, I thought this whole thread was pretty even-handed, myself: some rah-rah, some put-down, some info...about like anything else that gets brought up on here. It's not personal. About all we agree on, on this site is that we like opiates, and even then, we fight over all kinds of shit. I've learned on Opiophile *and* gotten pissed off, when I think I'm being dissed. But I never expect too much. I'm tickled that every once in a while I run across someone who seems on the same wavelength. But nobody supports everything somebody else does. Nature of the beast....

Best wishes Highwayman, brave of you to bring it up, and interesting to most of us, who don't know all that much about it.

CIIORNOTHING

08-16-2007, 10:35 AM

The pain from the injections of steroids usually comes from the benzyl alochol they put they put in to keep the hormone somewhat sterile. Alot of this shit is made in "labs' God knows where.

And yes, there are many stereoids that women can take just like men, then there aree some women cant or woudlnt want to take for various reasons.

As far as where I shoot my steroids, it vaires. You dont want to risk absess by constantly shooting in the glutes (butt) we often rotate to quads (upper legs), triceps (back of arms) and calves (back of legs). Pretty much anywhere you can get deep IM.

Some compounds like GH or insulin you can shoot subq which is nice and less painful. There is a whole world of steroid-o-philes out there just like there is opiophiles. The odd thing is, there seems to be a bit of disdain for the steroid users here, but opiates and most other drugs are all used and not judged at all by the steroid folks. Steroid folks in general are big believes in better living through chemistry. And many of them have enough knowledge to actaully be a chemist themselvs. When its your life you are playing with, you tend to read and researc ALOT before putting the shit into your body ;)

CIIORNOTHING

08-16-2007, 10:37 AM

The_Highwayman

08-19-2007, 03:09 PM

Oh and one last thing.

Most people spend all of thier time learnig about steroid USE and what to do while taking them. Most dont understand that the most important knowledge to have is what to do and what drugs to use when you STOP using the steroids and how to get your body quickly back to homeostasis. This is a science in itself.

Highway man, it sounds like you are up on PCT then to I guess......

PCT as in Post Cycle Therapy, yes, and I agree that that area is as important as suing the hormones itself, this partciular cycle, will be siesed after 10 weeks with a 4 week brigde period then another cycle after that it will be the clomid and HCG with possiblity of IGF if the cash is right............

Paregoric Kid

08-19-2007, 03:31 PM

it is ironic because kurt was really small and weak and he hated stereotypical BIG STRONG TUFF GUYS
just my observations from reading his diaries.

CIIORNOTHING

08-20-2007, 08:24 AM

PCT as in Post Cycle Therapy, yes, and I agree that that area is as important as suing the hormones itself, this partciular cycle, will be siesed after 10 weeks with a 4 week brigde period then another cycle after that it will be the clomid and HCG with possiblity of IGF if the cash is right............

Yep, you know your shit pretty good :) Id add 10mg of am dbol to that pct so the crash isnt nearly as bad, but thats just me. I also run an anti E aromatase inhibitor throughout and during pct.

Have a safe journey bro.....

kazman32

08-20-2007, 08:02 PM

You sound like you know what your doing...props most guys don't know shit about pct, (I'm a former nat'l level bodybuilder)

CIIORNOTHING

08-21-2007, 12:54 PM

You sound like you know what your doing...props most guys don't know shit about pct, (I'm a former nat'l level bodybuilder)

That is very cool man. I just started some Tren for my first time about 6 weeks ago so you can imagine how pumped I am about it. Shit is off the charts!!!

kazman32

08-21-2007, 06:44 PM

Tren is liquid gold very very powerful stuff, an easy homebrew as well ;)

CIIORNOTHING

08-22-2007, 08:18 AM

Tren is liquid gold very very powerful stuff, an easy homebrew as well ;)

Yep, mine is proudly made right here at my kitchen table. I whatman filter it three times until its almost clear perfection, just barely a hint of gold. Damn I love the stuff.

The_Highwayman

08-24-2007, 05:16 PM

Yep, mine is proudly made right here at my kitchen table. I whatman filter it three times until its almost clear perfection, just barely a hint of gold. Damn I love the stuff.

Never used tren but am going to AFTER this cycle for some cutting............