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lef1000
08-11-2007, 02:22 PM
Recently i have been "borrowing" percs from my mom that she got for her leg injnry but never takes them. Today my dad calls me to his room and has 2 pill bottles in his hand and im thinking OH shit im screwed... he starts off his typical way when he is realy upset about something i did and im trying to think what shoukld i do DENY tkaing anything at all or admit it and play it off like no big deal. And he takes the pill tube and puts them away (they weren't the perc's obv) and talks about how i screwed up the familys car insurence umbrella policy. I have never been so relieved :) Also i should be gettin about 25 vike 7.5's today AND hopefuly more o n monday along with shrooomz

Synack
08-11-2007, 02:35 PM
Yeah, 'rents can do that to ya... how old are you by the way?

lef1000
08-11-2007, 02:38 PM
im 20 ill be 21 in january

Hammilton
08-11-2007, 02:50 PM
I dunno if that's "almost caught", but fuck- I would have been shitting my pants.

EleusisII
08-11-2007, 04:30 PM
Goddess, I think I'm in love with you...


Recently i have been "borrowing" percs from my mom that she got for her leg injnry but never takes them.

Yup! Yes I am! :D
Hmmm... That's a tough one. Is it allright to "borrow" meds if they're rarely used? Junkie-ethically speaking it would probably be wrong NOT to "borrow" them, but what do you guys think?

Be careful BTW: If she rarely takes them, wouldn't she notice that they're missing? Have you thought about asking her straight out if you can take some now and then for your whatever? If she's like most parents, she'll probably be more upset about the dishonesty of it, not asking her, than she'll be about you taking them.

Black_Pony
08-11-2007, 05:59 PM
Ya, I'm with Eleusis on this one. Taking a patients meds is pretty fucken scandalous if you ask me but i promised myself I'd never judge anyone else 's morality so i will bite my tongue. Besides she 'never uses them.'

I'm with Hamm, too. Almost caught sounds like you narrowly escaped arrest! But I can understand how you wouldn't want to fuck up your relationship with your parents especially if you're still living there.

Pretty close call there! Don't fuck up the 'rents insurance premium or else you'll be paying your own. And that licks donkey dick, believe me I've got two cars, multiple speeding tickets and now two DUI charges to boot. Insurance is a real racket these days and in my state you CAN'T drive without it anymore. Talk about throwing your money away..:mad:

In The Wind
08-11-2007, 07:13 PM
Sorry lef, but it sounds like your priorities are outa wack.

Hammilton
08-11-2007, 07:39 PM
Sorry lef, but it sounds like your priorities are outa wack.


Yeah, dude, I absolutely have to agree. Unless it's a situation where they aren't used at all- some old bottle that's been forgotten or she filled them and found out she's allergic so she can't touch them anymore, I dunno how you can live with that.

I know there's a huge movement in this country with the belief that all values are equal and right, but I'm not gonna say that stealing from your mother is anything other than repulsive to appease the PC police.

Still, though, welcome to the board.

pharmboy
08-11-2007, 07:58 PM
I am wondering about the inventory at the
end? Whats that all about?
I think we may be real close to some rules around here.:rolleyes:

Black_Pony
08-11-2007, 08:41 PM
Ya, I think he means 'SWIM's getting Vicodin and shrooms.'

Aw, cut the guy some slack! At least he didn't say 'Someone please send me Vicodin and shrooms! My email is shithead@moron.com.'



I am wondering about the inventory at the
end? Whats that all about?
I think we may be real close to some rules around here.:rolleyes:

Hammilton
08-11-2007, 08:54 PM
^what he said.

it'm not sure if it's against a rule to post that, but it's generally agreed that SWIM offers no real legal protection. But, I figure if you want to shoot yourself, go ahead, but don't aim that thing at me or the Opiophile.

jerets
08-11-2007, 09:11 PM
Yeah. There are plently of pharms already out there relativity cheap. It's not good karma to take them from anyone that needs them for pain. Best to ask for (esp. your mom). When I was really young I did the same thing he did and it was the biggest mistake of my life. Never felt worse about it after looking back on exploiting their pain for my pleasure. It's not worth the couple hours of fun to remember it for years after. Just my $.02 though.
Welcome to the board :)
Jerets

blackdog
08-11-2007, 09:22 PM
especially percs(yucky pooh) I'm not a pharmie head at all. but i have been reading fellow opiophiles predicaments long enough to know and suggest that if ya think its worth doing but ya would like to try and not get caught then what you just might want to do is replace what you take with a look alike type of pill such as aspirin or sumthin like that. i dont know . just my two cents:rolleyes:
dawgg,:p

EleusisII
08-12-2007, 08:56 AM
Well, the OP wrote that they hardly ever use them. If it's like something your mom gets from her dad for occassional headaches or something, then it would be ALMOST ok. If it's something she really needs, leave 'em alone...

SHELLEY
08-13-2007, 10:08 PM
my mom steals my crack whenever she comes over

alowishus
08-13-2007, 10:29 PM
Fuck man your almost a man, get your ass outta the house, get a job, get your own drugs, and stop stealing your high.

Just think, then you aint gotta worry about getting busted, except for the fuzz that is, of course.
You can even stay up late playing sega and eating cookie dough in the livingroom.
You can have girls over too, wow just think of it, you can have a sleep over, and pass notes, play tag, and even maybe, just maybe, spin the bottle. WOOOOHHHHH, WOOOOOOWWWWW, man just think of it....throw a lan party and say bad words out loud when you get fragged!!
All this freedom and room, the whole world is open to what you want to do and what you will do w/ the rest of your life......but instead your almost 21, living at home, afraid of your father finding out about how you live your life and stealing drugs from you mother.

ProdigalSon
08-13-2007, 10:46 PM
^^^AMEN......

xecutrex
08-13-2007, 10:52 PM
Fuck man your almost a man, get your ass outta the house, get a job, get your own drugs, and stop stealing your high.

Just think, then you aint gotta worry about getting busted, except for the fuzz that is, of course.
You can even stay up late playing sega and eating cookie dough in the livingroom.
You can have girls over too, wow just think of it, you can have a sleep over, and pass notes, play tag, and even maybe, just maybe, spin the bottle. WOOOOHHHHH, WOOOOOOWWWWW, man just think of it....throw a lan party and say bad words out loud when you get fragged!!
All this freedom and room, the whole world is open to what you want to do and what you will do w/ the rest of your life......but instead your almost 21, living at home, afraid of your father finding out about how you live your life and stealing drugs from you mother.

AHAHAHAHA, LAUGHING SO HARD RIGHT NOW

Black_Pony
08-14-2007, 12:07 AM
Ouch! Talk about s-p-e-l-l-i-n-g it out. It's all true, and more. Shit, 18 years was ENOUGH for me and I was outta there lickety split.


Fuck man your almost a man, get your ass outta the house, get a job, get your own drugs, and stop stealing your high.

Just think, then you aint gotta worry about getting busted, except for the fuzz that is, of course.
You can even stay up late playing sega and eating cookie dough in the livingroom.
You can have girls over too, wow just think of it, you can have a sleep over, and pass notes, play tag, and even maybe, just maybe, spin the bottle. WOOOOHHHHH, WOOOOOOWWWWW, man just think of it....throw a lan party and say bad words out loud when you get fragged!!
All this freedom and room, the whole world is open to what you want to do and what you will do w/ the rest of your life......but instead your almost 21, living at home, afraid of your father finding out about how you live your life and stealing drugs from you mother.

SHELLEY
08-14-2007, 12:15 AM
Ouch! Talk about s-p-e-l-l-i-n-g it out. It's all true, and more. Shit, 18 years was ENOUGH for me and I was outta there lickety split.

you know what my dad gave me for an 18th birthday present?
...a backpack

and he was right in doing it
had a damn good reason
he used to have a saying,
"my house, my rules!"
then one day when i was about 19
he came to MY apt and lit a cigarette
i told him to put it out, i don't smoke inside
and for the first time in my life, i got to tell him
"MY HOUSE, MY RULES!"

it was glorious
i recommend moving out
then you can whoever's drugs whenever you want
and no one will have a popsicle's chance in hell
of stopping you

Black_Pony
08-14-2007, 12:28 AM
LOL! Its settled, if I have a kid I'm gonna do the same thing. Here's a backpack and a bus pass.

My relationship with my Mom completely changed once I moved out, its great. I would feel comfortable ASKING her for drugs instead of stealing them. And she asks me to cop bud for her new husband.


you know what my dad gave me for an 18th birthday present?
...a backpack

and he was right in doing it
had a damn good reason
he used to have a saying,
"my house, my rules!"
then one day when i was about 19
he came to MY apt and lit a cigarette
i told him to put it out, i don't smoke inside
and for the first time in my life, i got to tell him
"MY HOUSE, MY RULES!"

it was glorious
i recommend moving out
then you can whoever's drugs whenever you want
and no one will have a popsicle's chance in hell
of stopping you

youwonhundred
08-14-2007, 12:28 AM
If you took my meds, I would kick your fucking ass. Talk to your mom, man. She can't be that bad. If you don't ask, you'll never know. She might just give you the bottle (probably not, but we can hope). Seriously, I take ALL my meds, so your situation is probably different, but stealing somebodys pain pills is some low down dirty shit. People I know, if I need, I ask. If they need, the same holds true. but if somebody stole one pill... Theres a lot of desert out here to hide a body, you know?

CSiiSEQ
08-14-2007, 05:32 AM
If you took my meds, I would kick your fucking ass.


I agree! If you've ever had your meds stolen or "borrowed" or whatever the fuck rationalization the thief chooses to use, you might think differently about this topic. I try and keep my mouth shut when topics like this come up, or ones where people are digging through old people's or whoever's meds looking for stuff.

I understand desperation and I understand sometimes we do things that aren't the most moral, but this is the lowest of the low to me. I don't care if the person is dependent or doesn't even take the drugs or whatever - leave other people's meds alone or ask if you can have or buy them - anything else is just pure BS and the person deserves a permanent PICC line full of narcan.

I'm really not directing this at anyone specific - not at the OP either - really it's more of a vent. I've had mine stolen and it just really pisses me off and gets me going (if ya haven't noticed).

OK, deep breath, life is good and calm ;), good morning to all who are in the morning-type time zone!

antigonemuse
08-14-2007, 06:20 AM
this is all fine and dandy,,,, but what do you do when you catch you parents stealing your drugs

its a catch 22 i tell ya

OxyContinuously
08-14-2007, 07:54 AM
I agree with everyone so far, and I gotta say that conflicts with my parents (ie my drug use and their close-minded hard ass nature) was one of the things that made me pack up my shit and get the hell out.

NOw look, though, I have my own place with my girl, a nice car, mad dough, and I'm between the ages of twenty and thirty, with many good years ahead of me...God willing.

MY parents, you may ask? Hah, mom's a shrew and dad is between the ages of 60 and Dead...sow ho has the last laugh?


later dude

Duckfeet
08-14-2007, 08:24 AM
When I want drugs--and know where they're at--all morality is situational. My need outweighs any parental affection. Which I never had much anyway. I'd take the dope and feel bad later...like this kid did....welcome to the world of the hard core dope addict...

lef1000
08-15-2007, 09:49 AM
OK wow... i read everyones response and i just wanna say that i think everyone has the wrong idea. First off, my mother, a sweet lady albeit, is hard-core against any drugs or alcohol. Also, she rarely even uses these pills at all and if she liked them/needed them i would NEVER take even one from her. OK with that said, how is what I am doing so wrong? If i asked her if i could have some she would scream at me and tell me that "you do not do that, that is illegal and u can get hurt". I am very far from a junkie, my desire to take some of her pills is akin to a 13 year old wanting to take his fathers Budweiser at night with his friends. I am surprised that everyone thinks im some junkie that needs to "get out of the house"... im 20 going to college and goign on the grad school to become a lawyer.

Duckfeet
08-15-2007, 10:01 AM
One: I'da done the same thing, and worse, and did...

Two: You thro it out on Opiophile, u gotta be willing to accept that people are going to tell u what they think, rather than what will make u feel good. Most of the people on here said it was a fucked up thing to do, sure it was...so is robbing a bank, breaking into drugstores at night, getting yer old lady to fuck people for money, being a dopefiend eventually you break most rules of conduct. People on here some haven't stooped that low...yet....




OK wow... i read everyones response and i just wanna say that i think everyone has the wrong idea. First off, my mother, a sweet lady albeit, is hard-core against any drugs or alcohol. Also, she rarely even uses these pills at all and if she liked them/needed them i would NEVER take even one from her. OK with that said, how is what I am doing so wrong? If i asked her if i could have some she would scream at me and tell me that "you do not do that, that is illegal and u can get hurt". I am very far from a junkie, my desire to take some of her pills is akin to a 13 year old wanting to take his fathers Budweiser at night with his friends. I am surprised that everyone thinks im some junkie that needs to "get out of the house"... im 20 going to college and goign on the grad school to become a lawyer.

SHELLEY
08-15-2007, 11:48 AM
this is all fine and dandy,,,, but what do you do when you catch you parents stealing your drugs

its a catch 22 i tell ya

my mom steals my crack sometimes
she was actually disappointed
when i quit smoking
hah

OxyContinuously
08-15-2007, 11:50 AM
...........

Black_Pony
08-16-2007, 03:35 PM
I personally AM a junkie, so I read everyone else's posts from that perspective. That probably goes for most people on this board.

Secondly, I haven't met anyone on this site yet (myself especially) that thinks stealing a patients meds is acceptable behavior. I doubt you can change anyones mind on that one.

Thirdly, I could understand if you were a junkie and were WDing real hard (we've all been there), but if your not, it makes stealing meds sound even worse!

That being said, I'm still with Duckfeet on this one - You gotta do what you gotta do. I'm not trying to judge your specific situation, I wouldn't do that until I walk a mile in your shoes. And good luck becoming a Lawyer! There is ALOT of good you can do, especially in the junkie community with that kind of education. Just don't walk a mile in MY shoes or your dreams will go down the shit hole! ;)

Peace

BP


OK wow... i read everyones response and i just wanna say that i think everyone has the wrong idea. First off, my mother, a sweet lady albeit, is hard-core against any drugs or alcohol. Also, she rarely even uses these pills at all and if she liked them/needed them i would NEVER take even one from her. OK with that said, how is what I am doing so wrong? If i asked her if i could have some she would scream at me and tell me that "you do not do that, that is illegal and u can get hurt". I am very far from a junkie, my desire to take some of her pills is akin to a 13 year old wanting to take his fathers Budweiser at night with his friends. I am surprised that everyone thinks im some junkie that needs to "get out of the house"... im 20 going to college and goign on the grad school to become a lawyer.

EleusisII
08-20-2007, 12:37 AM
These things aren't black and white.
Does your mother NEED them, as in can't function normally without, or is it something her doc gave her for an occasional migraine?

Rule of thumb: If it won't be missed, go ahead help youself to a couple.

You'll probably have your own kids swipe painkillers from you someday. And the karmic circle will be complete!

blackdog
08-26-2007, 01:45 PM
murphys law does apply! hey dawg , yeah pop whats up?.....what you do with my script for them dilaudids, ummm ya mean those 15 dillie generics ya got back two three months ago? yeah ......oh i ummmm ahhhhhh idont know i'm not sure .why? oh wait ask mom for a couple of her tramadols oh ok thanks son you're the best .yeah i love u 2 pop!!
convo betwn blkdawgg and poppadawgg