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Coddfish

11-22-2005, 04:17 AM

Many of us talk about living in a police state, but where should we go? I went half way 'round the workd a few years ago looking for a place and a people who whould let me live my lifestyle, but alas! The Thai government started shooting up dealers left and right just about the time I got there. After piddling around Southeast Asia for a couple of years I landed on the idea that Laos was the place for me. Lots of Opium for cheap cheap. About 7 us$ for 3 or 4 grams; and that was the deal they gave white guy just off the train strolling through the town center, no haggling. I prefer to injest my goodies via my bloodstream, but Opium is Opium. (Ahhh, Laos!) I wonder if anyone else knows of a candyland? I thought maybe pakistan or ksjdudestan? Maybe Columbia or Peru? Maybe we can all move there and take over!! I'm ready. Junkie Power.:D

skeletontea

11-22-2005, 06:47 AM

Many of us talk about living in a police state, but where should we go? I went half way 'round the workd a few years ago looking for a place and a people who whould let me live my lifestyle, but alas! The Thai government started shooting up dealers left and right just about the time I got there.

:( Damn global westernization. Along with the gradual death of the world's various unique cultures (which I find to be absolutely devestating,) in a desire to become more like America, many countries try to emulate various aspects of western culture, including our perspective of drugs being an evil menace that must be wiped from the face of the earth.

Of course there is also direct pressure applied by the U.S. I think Global Drug Policy is a frightening concept (as is any global policy for that matter.) We've certainly applied a lot of pressure to Asia.

duke_nemmerle

11-22-2005, 08:00 AM

I've been wondering on this forever fish, I would actually move somewhere where I could get cheap opiates, legally. It would have to be a country without a lot of muslim fundamentalists too. The best 2 places seem to be Portugal and Spain, though I don't know how easy it would be to score there

siggy

11-22-2005, 09:49 AM

Yes, the muslim extremist thing...however, my Pakistani wife (Christian) tells me I would be treated very well there - ghura sahibs being practically celebreties (white dudes). She says it's such a prestige thing to have white guy visiting your house, that people would be literally fighting for my attention and company. That is so funny to me in way as I've always been so light skinned (red hair, etc.) and always felt envious of those who tanned while I always look the color of a dead fish. I should have gone there when I was young as white is considered beautiful there. Anyway, the U.S. dollar is so strong there I am considering retiring there. My SS check would be enough to get us a house and walled compound, servants, and a lavish life style. Hell, I could rent out my house here and could do the same thing. Pakistan has it all,:rolleyes: the ocean, rivers, the Himalayas. The drawbacks are the extreme poverty, religious intolerance, the fact that all women must go around covered up with no skin showing, you can't "date" women there - (gotta marry it before you can taste it). But my oh my, the poppy fields. I was wondering what would be at stake to import pods from there as I have contacts on that end. Probably might as well put a sign outside my house saying "Dope".

duke_nemmerle

11-22-2005, 10:06 AM

You're lucky dude, I think paki women are smokin hot :) way to go

katomic

11-22-2005, 04:43 PM

America apply pressure to everyone for lots of things we are used to it "the new world order" supose its better than china.

in Portugal all drugs are decimalised this happened because there is so much H there they still arrest you but you get sent to a clinic I haven’t looked in to if for a while it be worth looking up how its going. I can go move there no problems I think we don’t even have to fill in any forms. the beauty of being European o the choices. :D

Laos a, whats the food like? thai? Did you go to Cambodia? I fancy there. Myanmar’s fucked atm what about the Borneo part of Malaysia? Or the Bhutan?
Im up for a nomadic living in the middle of nowhere with my own still and farm mmm what would I grow? :rolleyes:
Coddfish im heading that way next year any tips?

siggy

11-22-2005, 04:48 PM

Thanks dude - you ought to see my step-daughters! I am a very lucky guy tp be such an ugly fucker - add that to good pods and it's like nirvana. (Not in the Kurt Cobain sort of way tho) Seriously - any guy here ought to go to lengths to find a Paki or Indian girl. It's a very insular society however - forget Hindus or Muslims - find a Christian girl (like 2% of the Paki population). Hell, go there - it would be a cheap vacation (outside of airfare). People are so into getting out of there - it's everybody's dream to come to America. I keep telling folks there it isn't like what they see on TV or in the movies, that there is a lot of poverty here, a lot of crime, and that we are a police state now. The emigres realize it once they get here, but - Pakistan is such a backwards country, they love the freedom here. Hell, they can't even display Christmas decorations outside of their homes - you can go to church - and that's subject to bombing, especially at Christmas services. The muslim radicals are so lockstep ignorant and hateful. But, go to Karachi, down on the coast - it's more international in flavor. It would be easy to get hooked up with a gal - the prospects of residency add to any American's appeal. My wife is the best woman in the world as far as I'm concerned: pretty, loving, very accepting of my foibles, devoted, faithful, do anything for me. She actually takes too much shit off me - but she knows I get weird without my flower arranging. I'd heard about asian women - hell, I had a Chinese girlfriend that was straight out of hell - no taste for things - she preferred cheap new things to quality goods, talked like and had the understanding of a peasant - money, money & more money was all she was about. I dropped her like the sad sack of shit she was. I imagine filipino women are about the same although I know you can't really generalize this way. My secret for getting my wife? This is weird, but it's true...I painted a symbol on my back door and she showed up within 6 months, maybe less. IM me for what if you're interested.

msdope

11-22-2005, 05:45 PM

Hell, I'm a chick and now I want one of these women. Seriously. I went to a private, all girls Catholic school. I had five Paki girls in school with me. Three were Christian, and the other two were Muslim. I didn't know they had Muslim's there.

We also had Indian girls who were Hindu. Considering they had to take theology classes I guess it was confusing to them. I used to go to Hindu Temple with one of them, and now that's one interesting Religion right there. I liked the whole Self-Realization aspect of Hinduism.

A generalization, but Filipino women will be subserviant initially, and then BAM you better drive them to that casino or else. Living in a city with a Chinatown is also important for them. They are sexy as shit, but if I was a male I'd have to put one of those ball gags in their mouth.

If I paint a symbol on my door will a gentleman of about 80 stop by? A great pension is important, and hopefully all his ex-wives are deceased. No kids or grandkids. Being a WWII Vet would be great. Oh, and maybe he'll be on meds. Now that'd be a jackpot.

siggy

11-22-2005, 05:51 PM

LMAO! Nope, the WWII vets won't respond to symbols. If you get a filipino girl, be prepared to send lots of cash to her needy bros & sisters in the Philipines - they always have someone at home who is desperate.
Oh yeah - you din't know they had muslims there? One might think the name of the country would give it away - "The Islamic Republic of Pakistan"???

SomniGod

11-22-2005, 07:23 PM

duke_nemmerle

11-22-2005, 07:55 PM

I'm looking for the same thing in a FEMALE version! A real Suga-Momma! A ritch old chic with a lot of scripts... a fat house.... a dope car... and a checking acct... I would make a GREAT "house-bitch!" I cook... i clean... I do yardwork...shamanic only!!!!...and I look like a nice clean-cut whiteboy. That's why I move dto FL!!!! j/k that was wron!

~S~

(you know I would tho!!!)

NO doubt dude, if the scripts are good and the pension is large, I don't care how old they are(hell the older the better) or what they look like. I can dig some suga-mama

Coddfish

11-23-2005, 06:00 AM

in Portugal all drugs are decimalised this happened because there is so much H there they still arrest you but you get sent to a clinic

Laos a, whats the food like? thai? Did you go to Cambodia? I fancy there. Myanmar’s fucked atm what about the Borneo part of Malaysia? Or the Bhutan?
Im up for a nomadic living in the middle of nowhere with my own still and farm mmm what would I grow? :rolleyes:
Coddfish im heading that way next year any tips?
I can't speak to Borneo, malaysia, etc. Cambodia was good though. I no longer recommend Thailand for trying to get opiates, though methamphetamines are easily gotten.:( some places I visited you don't even have to ask, someone will ask you; "you want ganja? you want opium?" especially if you look like a tourist without a whole lot of money, ie, backpacker. This was especially true of vientienne and luang prabang in laos, and in cambodian cities on the border with Thailand. If that doesn't happen for some reason, look for a group of three-wheeled taxi's (They're called 'tuk-tuks'). Go for a ride somewhere and ask the driver if he knows where to get something. ALWAYS be careful. I have read in travel books that it is a common scam for taxi drivers to help people score and then go grab the police for a shakedown. My experience was not like that; most of those drivers don't like the police any more than we do because of all the fake traffic tickets they give out. Oh yeah, Lao food is not as spicy as Thai, with lots of fish. If that doesn't appeal to you, there are some really good French bistros and such from colonial times.
Although I don't have any direct evidence, I think pakistan is the way to go. I see stories of 2$ in Karachi for a gram of H that is the real stuff! THIS, I WANT!! And yes, I agree that paki women are beautiful. So are Thai women, but they also all have families which the westerner is expected to take care for financially. Three dates and you're sending money to this woman's family whom you've never met? Not for me.
So portugal and spain, huh? What cost of living, ie., how much are goodies there? I am drawn to developing countries, but if the boot fits.....

Skeletontea, I feel your pain. I really do. I was really angry about all of that for a long time, and still am a bit. But I have finally accepted the fact that these police-state laws, this way of American thinking is NOT going to change in my lifetime. So my choices are simple; you know them as well as I. The fact is, I WILL NOT support a country that despises me. I am going to another country as soon as I get my shit taken care of in a year or two, and I am not looking back:D

Zoop

11-23-2005, 09:12 AM

Go to pharmacy school. Get a pharmacist license and then practice pharmacy in the USA. Best hook up ever. Just don't get caught like I did.

You can get mad student loans for school.

katomic

11-23-2005, 01:44 PM

We think alike coddfish apart from the pakistan bit i have been drawn to developing countries for quite some time where i can buy quite a bit of land and grow all or most of my own food and drugs and live in peace near a forest and beach id brew my own beer, sprits and live of solar/wind power also this is the best bit..

live in two or three ex sea containers!! they cost like fuck all all you need is an angle grinder and some welding gear a bit of insulation and ther you have it! a house that will last you your life and then some. plus it tempory so no bulding regs and if you move you can take it with you good for storms too just dont touch the sides!!

mmm thats luxury:rolleyes:

msdope

11-24-2005, 12:57 PM

I'm looking for the same thing in a FEMALE version! A real Suga-Momma! A ritch old chic with a lot of scripts... a fat house.... a dope car... and a checking acct... I would make a GREAT "house-bitch!" I cook... i clean... I do yardwork...shamanic only!!!!...and I look like a nice clean-cut whiteboy. That's why I move dto FL!!!! j/k that was wron!

~S~

(you know I would tho!!!)

Three words. Anna Nicole Smith. I wonder if she ever gets to Florida? You're too funny.

You guys are all just as shameless as me. I'll tell you though some of those older men can outrun guys my age by a mile. No flies on them.

mmnyc9

11-24-2005, 07:59 PM

I often wonder what it would have been like say 100 years ago, NYC Phille, New England... I could have scored all the d in the world and drive a bugy. Freaking white men screw everything up.

milky_tears

12-06-2005, 10:44 AM

duke_nemmerle

12-06-2005, 11:04 AM

I've been looking into "heroin tourism" for quite a while now and until recently had my heart set on somewhere on the India/Pakistan border. Lately though, I'm starting to lean more towards Cambodia.

I'd steer well clear of Thailand nowadays.

I don't know dude, southeast asia has some pretty stiff laws don't they? I'd have to go something western europe I think

katomic

12-06-2005, 11:56 AM

id go with milky and Cambodia cos of the :dollarsig just mind the land mine's :jumping-s

coddfish just to let you know Portugal and Spain are different countries... and have different laws

http://opioids.com/legal/ (http://opioids.com/legal/)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/823257.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/823257.stm)

siggy

12-06-2005, 01:54 PM

Thailand? They just executed some Australian dude a couple of days ago for dope trafficking - hung him, even after appeals from the Australian govt. The Indian/Paki border is some tough neighborhood - that's supposedly where Osama is hiding. But it's like a tribal area. Karachi would be a better place as it's a seaport, lots of smuggling there, much more tolerant of western ways.

milky_tears

12-07-2005, 08:21 AM

@duke- Yes, SE Asia does have strict laws, but Cambodia is a LOT more relaxed. (From what I've read.)

Coddfish

12-08-2005, 11:28 PM

Cambodia is very relaxed compared to Thailand (which has gotten much worse recently) or most other S.E. asian countries. I been there lots, I know. If you did get caught (pretty unlikely) doing something nasty, you can buy your way out of it. When the upper-middle-class make the equivilant to $3-4 a day, they don't much care about Yankee's drug fetish unless they can make some money off him. Same with Laos. A 20 goes a long way in places like that. Sig, I agree that Karachi seems like that's where it's at. I bet a 20 goes a lot further there, and it's new to me.

By the way. Spain? Portugal? There are countries with these names? I thought they were just brand names of condoms. I'm an F'n retard! Too dumb for people to waste their geography expertise on me here on opiophile. F'n hopeless!

milky_tears

12-09-2005, 07:55 PM

Barrio Alto or Casal Ventoso in Portugal's capital city- Lisbon, is THE place to go for a "H holiday" in Europe. Visit them in the day, (NOT at night) but stay somewhere nicer toward the Algarve. (So I'm told!)

ALL drugs are decriminalised, easy to get hold of and pretty cheap too! (So I'm told!)

You can get up in the morning and drive to Casal Ventoso, score, then drive 20 - 30 mins back to your lovely secluded beach spot towards Albufeira and have a NICE day... (So I'm told...)

Coddfish

12-09-2005, 08:52 PM

I'm ready to cash in my frequent flyer miles. You make Lisbon sound soooo nice! Although price is a major concern, I think the law is the biggest. on a side note, I have done all kinds of reading about the U.S. involvment with the narco trade, :mad: but I recently read some more articles that pound it home. H users are the greatest patriots of all. I want to get a bumper sticker that says "Support our troops!--- buy h by the ounce!"

Milky,
if I stare at your avatar for a while I begin to laugh uncontrollably. I recommend people try it.

bogumil

12-30-2005, 08:18 PM

NO doubt dude, if the scripts are good and the pension is large, I don't care how old they are(hell the older the better) or what they look like. I can dig some suga-mama
... I would make a GREAT "house-bitch!" I cook... i clean... I do yardwork...shamanic only!!!!...and I look like a nice clean-cut whiteboy.
LMAO:D Dito.

pointed

12-30-2005, 11:32 PM

On ADH, someone wrote that she obtained free heroin in Holland and was able to adjust her dose freely. I can't attest to the veracity of this never having been there.

pointed

12-30-2005, 11:35 PM

Hmm....How well do you cook? The real question is....how do you feel about tar, feathers, and chicken blood? And do you live near Clearwater?

Zoop

12-31-2005, 12:57 AM

Everyone's been concentrating on SE Asia and Portugal through this whole thread. What about North Africa? Ethiopia is a nice place. I be they have all kinds of over the counter drugs that are controlled there. Hey, maybe I could just take my pharmacist license and degree that I got here in the good ol' U S of A and go over there and set up shop! I really really feel like that is a realistic thing. Those impoverished third world coountries love anything American, and here comes the American "doctor" to help them out in the little town I choose to live in.

Only problem, I have to learn Amharic. Or maybe I could be a cab driver. The irony would be sweet. All the cab drivers where I live are Ethiopian, so a white American guy driving a cab in Addis Abbaba would be about right.

Yeah, that would be the total bomb. Owning and running your own pharmacy in Addis. "We Secialize in pain relief and in marital counseling with MDMA sessions. Out weight-loss clinic employs the strongest weight loss drugs - they are illegal in many countries because they work too good"

How about that.

milky_tears

12-31-2005, 01:41 AM

I'll be your bitch if you take me with you and keep me dosed up.

Zanzibar

12-31-2005, 04:25 AM

Katomik was onto something a few posts back. Get a nice hectare or even less somewhere and grow popppies by the running yard. Such pretty flowers. Look for a place that is either drug naive or just not too interested in what the neighbours grow, and everyone will admire your pretty flowers. And then come harvest time you can always muttter about selling your dried heads to florists in a big town that is sufficiently far away. It would add verisimilitude (a real word, I'm sober this morning) if you were to mutter about how poor the prices for pretty flower heads are these days. Would discourage imitators.

You wouldn't even need to go too far down the "developing country" spectrum. America or southern Africa or Australia probably all have nooks and corners where you can hole up - might not be able to use katomik's containers due to local regulations, but still a lot of scope for one's own alternative energy haven, and with all the information available on the forum you'd have a constant supply of good stuff - no need even to go to Spain or Amsterdam ...

... just get used to all that clean air. It comes as a bonus.

Zoop

12-31-2005, 07:10 AM

I'll be your bitch if you take me with you and keep me dosed up.

I am not a homosexual, NOT THAT THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH IT! Maybe you could come along just to be there. We could have mad parties.

milky_tears

01-01-2006, 09:09 PM

...Ok... It was a joke dude.

blackdog

01-01-2006, 09:37 PM

okay i heard one person mention it and that is "holland" heinekin, prositutes,heroin and reefer of all types from reefer bars whoo hoooooo happy new year peeps da/dawgg:cool:

milky_tears

01-01-2006, 10:15 PM

But the best way to illustrate the sheer volume of the drug trade is to tour the basement vault underneath Afghanistan's Counter Narcotics police in Kabul, where one and a half tons of heroin, just seized in the provinces, was awaiting destruction.
One and a half tons of pure heroin is much larger than the biggest shipment ever seized in the United States, and once cut and repackaged it is worth hundreds of millions of dollars on the streets of a western city. Yet the seizure is less than one percent of all the heroin produced in Afghanistan last year, production which has increased more than 2,000 percent since 2001.

Hmmm? Worth a read- http://paktribune.com/news/index.php?id=122774

milky_tears

01-07-2006, 09:11 AM

Ok, a new contender! COLUMBIA!!! Very pure heroin, $10 - $20(US) per gram!!!

???

Coddfish

01-07-2006, 11:24 PM

Ok, Columbia has been on my radar screen for a few years; but violent, no? Oh well, what can ya do? I speak a little Spanish and I only need a psycho junkie to come with me and push me along my path. We'll get all our money together and make a good couple of years out of it. Any takers?
coddfish

bodangly

01-13-2006, 02:05 AM

What about Italy? I hear it is easy to score there, I have been, but I was younger at the time and not really looking for anything. Rome is an amazing city, I couldn't imagine a place I'd rather live and I'm fairly well traveled.

renton

01-24-2006, 08:36 PM

exitwound

01-24-2006, 09:15 PM

It's pretty easy to score in Amsterdam, guys will come up to you in the street and ask if you want some heroin or e. Just got to be carefull as theres lots of con artists there looking to sell dumb tourist brown sugar.

Yeah, you gotta make solid friends there ahead of time and skip the street thugs entirely. There's a lot of HARSH stuff that happens to poor naive junkies who go there expecting a smorgasbord on the streets....more like a meat grinder.

Get to know the right people, OUTSIDE A'dam itself, and they will show you everything you need to get amazing hookups. I wish that I had the luxury of going there, it'd be a nonstop pharm/heroin/opium/marijuana conveyor belt into my brain...... :rolleyes: :cool: :D

katomic

01-25-2006, 11:22 AM

colobma get an acre ther for $15 grand max live in some sea crates with a nice bit of room for gardning whos got $30,000
i be you gardner im very green fingered and am sick off tramdol and its only been a day

Belize is a dream of mine i bet thers cheap gear i know ther is cheap coke there plus even cheaper land $ 11-15 no stamp duty plus it wellcoms forners its less corrupt police tho can be paied off but it peacefull at the same time

fucking beutifal country too

one day

milky_tears

02-01-2006, 01:28 AM

@bodangly and renton- These may be good drug places, but unless money is no object, I think both Amsterdam (Or any of Holland) and Italy can be crossed off the list.

I want my dope fore pennies!!!

JerZ JunkE

02-05-2006, 08:57 PM

Heroin Heaven is in NEW JERSEY!

Thats right folks according to a gov. survey New Jersey had both the strongest dope and the strongest average. Pretty much any fool could score in any NJ city in an hour. With a little work you can get a nice big ol bag of beige sweet powder for 8 bucks. It is probably a tenth of a gram. There are of course discounts when you buy in bulk. Get your dope fresh off the boat! Cops confiscated a >90% bag in (Port) Elizebeth though Newark is hands down the Dope capital of NJ.

Welcome to New Jersey - Its like California but with durtier beaches and cleaner dope!

Coddfish

02-06-2006, 01:16 AM

Brother,
No offense, but 'jersey' and 'heaven' don't usually make it in the same sentence together. Weird, I'm from OK, and I was thinking I could say the same thing about my state, but then there's that 3 Dog Night song. Ya know, 'oh I've never been to heaven, but I've been to . . .' etc.
Kidding aside, I want to be able to pay my way out of a police problem with the spare change in my pocket. Can't do that here in this country. Did you say 90% bag for $8? Think what that would be a couple of steps closer to production. Say, in Pakistan or Columbia. We're talking 90%+ for a buck or two per gram. THAT'S heaven.

exitwound

02-06-2006, 02:57 PM

yeah....fuck jersey, LOL :D

blackdog

02-06-2006, 06:53 PM

whats up with that shit exitwound???
what did jersey do to you??? i think the blame is somebody closer to you than new jersey.
and i saw the lol after your fuck new jersey comment.i just can't figure out where or why it came from what for .even if it's only a joke whut up with dat shit bro???// da/dawgg:mad:

red26

02-06-2006, 09:29 PM

I'm with dogg on this one kids. Jersey rules through and through! I spent the majority of my life in Jersey and I serously take offense to the "Jersey sucks cuz I cant figure it out" mindframe. Make a Jersey-boy your friend and you gotta friend for life. I've only been to mexico so as far as the "where to go to get loaded in the world" thing it beats me but all my mehican friends in denver say southern mex. is the best. Portugal has always been on my go-to list, at the top actually, and now that I'm a H-addict I've got even more of a reason.

hovadagod

02-06-2006, 10:12 PM

All I gotta say if you're far from a coast...your shit ain't the best period. The pure shit comes in and gets cut and gets cut and gets cut so I'd have to say that NJ makes sense while OK is not too probable...and if you're on the boarder of Mexico, you can use that shit to fix your roof.

exitwound

02-06-2006, 10:57 PM

pointed

02-07-2006, 10:42 PM

I wonder if anyone else knows of a candyland? I thought maybe pakistan or ksjdudestan? Maybe Columbia or Peru? Maybe we can all move there and take over!! I'm ready. Junkie Power.:D

Peru would probably be a good place. I recently read a blurb stating that they were planning to propose legislation that would allow physicians to prescribe heroin! Sigh. I don't think this info is current; the article was a few years old so I don't know what happened. But if it went/is going through; I'll move there to start a junky colony with ya!

Best,

Kate

pointed

02-07-2006, 10:47 PM

JerZ JunkE

02-08-2006, 11:44 AM

Thats right folks according to a gov. survey New Jersey had both the strongest dope and the strongest average. Pretty much any fool could score in any NJ city in an hour. With a little work you can get a nice big ol bag of beige sweet powder for 8 bucks. It is probably a tenth of a gram. There are of course discounts when you buy in bulk. Get your dope fresh off the boat! Cops confiscated a >90% bag in (Port) Elizebeth though Newark is hands down the Dope capital of NJ.

Welcome to New Jersey - Its like California but with durtier beaches and cleaner dope!

Wrong, wrong, wrong! I've done mountains of Jersey dope, and while I freely admit it's good, it ain't NOTHIN' compared to Philly dope. Philly dope is incredible! Or it was a several years ago. I actually read an article in a national mag (wish I could remember which) stating that Philly had the purest dope in the country. (This may no longer be true....But boy, it was SWEET back in the day!)

Best,

Kate

Here is my source:
taken from the Star-Ledger

Purest heroin in U.S. hitting Jersey streets
Drug's power nearly twice national average
Sunday, December 12, 2004
BY JUDITH LUCAS AND BRAD PARKS
Star-Ledger Staff

Within the next few weeks, the federal Drug Enforcement Agency will announce what every junkie in the state already knows: New Jersey has the country's purest heroin.

For the second straight year, DEA lab tests of samples bought on the street will show unprecedented levels of heroin purity. In 2002, New Jersey heroin was 71.4 percent pure, nearly twice the national average. A report on the 2003 numbers will be out soon, according to federal DEA spokesman Rusty Payne, and New Jersey again will hold the nation's top spot.
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"You can't buy any better heroin in the world than you can buy in New Jersey," said Michael Pasterchick, special agent in charge of the Newark DEA office.

The dubious distinction presents a chilling set of health challenges, authorities said, from greater risks of overdose and death, to new difficulties trying to treat addicts.

The new heroin also is more addictive and easier to use. And unlike the heroin of a yesteryear, which was perhaps 5 percent or 10 percent pure and needed to be injected to achieve a high, today's heroin is pure enough to be snorted or smoked, making it more attractive to younger people who often mistakenly believe something they snort won't be addictive.

"In New Jersey, heroin is inexpensive, it's pure and it's everywhere," said Jim O'Brien, Executive Director for Addiction Treatment Providers of New Jersey. "Of all the drugs we deal with, heroin is the biggest problem."

The drug hits the streets of New Jersey so pure, authorities said, because it has not been resold and diluted with additives, since the state is the first stop for so many drug traffickers.

New Jersey also is an ideal entry point, authorities said.

It has the infrastructure, with a major international airport, bustling seaports and a vast highway network. It has the geography, being wedged between New York and Philadelphia and right in the middle of the Northeast corridor. And it has the demography, with a densely packed population spread over urban areas (where most drugs are sold) and suburban areas (where most drugs are stashed).

"You don't have to cross a bridge or drive through a tunnel to get the country's best heroin anymore," said Ed Higgins, President of the New Jersey Coalition of Methadone Programs. "When it comes to heroin, New Jersey and you are perfect together."

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Heroin has had two relatively recent watershed moments that have pushed it into its heyday.

The first came in the early 1990s, when Colombians, who were frustrated by U.S. government's curtailing of cocaine production, moved into the heroin business.

The Colombian cartels had been hooking America on cocaine for years, and therefore had the supply routes, distribution systems and retail muscle to start moving a new product line. The vast majority of New Jersey heroin comes from poppy plants grown in Colombia.

The second watershed moment was 9/11. The U.S. ousting of the Taliban, which had ruthlessly suppressed poppy production, resulted in a 36-fold increase in Afghani poppy production from 2001 to 2003 according to the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy. Meanwhile, the United States shifted its law enforcement focus from drugs to terrorism.

On the street level, that increase in supply means dealers are selling for less -- a "dime" bag of one-10th of a gram of heroin goes for as little as $6, roughly the same price as a pack of cigarettes -- and it means they're less likely to dilute or "cut" their heroin with other products. At a recent bust of a cutting mill in Clifton, the DEA seized 44 pounds of pure heroin and not one ounce of cutting agent.

And it's what customers want.

Law enforcement agents say a dealer who gets a reputation for selling lower-purity heroin will lose business. Dealers give their products brand names -- like 911, Body Bag and Walk of Death -- that suggest they have the purest, most dangerous stuff.

"If word gets out two people overdosed because of the stuff they got from me, I'm going to have a line of buyers down the street," Higgins said. "Because everyone is going to know my stuff is really pure."

TOP PRIORITY
And when it comes to pure heroin, New Jersey is first by a mile.

Not New York City or Philadelphia, where purity levels are over 60 percent. Not Miami or Los Angeles, where purity is below 30 percent.

A recent Elizabeth bust found 84 percent pure heroin. Some of the Newark DEA's buys have snared samples with purity levels up to 95 percent.

Dealers come here look for heroin from as far as the Midwest, according to Pasterchick.

A bust last month outside Pittsburgh resulted in Elizabeth resident Vernon Jackson being indicted for allegedly trafficking for than 100 grams of high-purity heroin he had gotten from Elizabeth and Newark, according to U.S. Attorney Mary Beth Buchanan.

Robert Figueroa, 30, also from Elizabeth, was convicted last week of possessing 5 pounds of uncut heroin, making him the largest distributor Union County had ever nabbed.

And it's not just in Union. In the past year, authorities have busted stash houses in Madison (Morris County), West Orange (Essex County) and Clifton (Passaic County). In each case, the heroin came in through Elizabeth or Newark.

The heroin market has forced the Newark DEA office to make the drug its top priority. Pasterchick said his office has assigned half its resources -- 250 employees plus 100 law enforcement officers on loan from other agencies -- to root out heroin dealers. The Newark DEA's heroin seizures increased 600 percent in the past five years.

Yet as demand rises, heroin smugglers become more daring. They turn their bodies into transport vessels, swallowing balloons full of heroin and hopping direct flights to Newark from Bogotá, Colombia. They hide it in their clothes and luggage. They ship it in containers.

Most of the time they succeed. The DEA estimates that 18 tons of heroin is consumed in this country every year. Last year, the DEA managed to seize 2.4 tons.

What gets through becomes a major headache for local law enforcement.

"It's frightening," Union County prosecutor Theodore Romankow said. "These dealers are a plague on society."

TREATMENT DILEMMA
The purity levels are a big part of the plague, and it's changing the face of heroin users.

Today's heroin addict is noticeably younger, whiter, and more suburban than a decade ago. And it has left the treatment community with a dilemma: Its treatments are designed for the old heroin addicts.

"The clinical community just doesn't have any scientifically tested methods for treating this emerging cohort of 13- to 18-year-old heroin users," said Lisa Marsch, a principal investigator for the National Development and Research Institute.

The challenge is that kids are less mature and harder to reach with conventional therapy. And because the purity of the heroin is so much higher, it's tougher to get them off the drug.

Example: Methadone is widely used to eliminate heroin craving. As a narcotic itself, it is tightly controlled. And federal regulations stipulate no more than 30 milligrams of methadone can be administered on the first day of treatment.

That standard was established in the days when heroin purity was below 10 percent. Today's addicts need anywhere from 120 to 140 milligrams of methadone to control their cravings. Without proper levels of the methadone, the agonizing withdrawal symptoms that used to subside after 36 hours are lasting three or four days.

"We're seeing people who are taking methadone but are still using heroin, because their dosages aren't high enough," said Ned Cox, executive director for Spectrum Healthcare in Jersey City.

Of course, those are just the addicts who are being treated.

O'Brien, from the Addiction Treatment Providers of New Jersey, said his members have waiting lists several months long, a common problem. The state has 30 residential treatment programs with 2,200 beds for heroin addicts, but the state Division of Addiction Services estimates there are 86,353 people in New Jersey who need treatment.

"There is absolutely a crisis in this state when it comes to treating drug addiction," O'Brien said. "People just don't want to recognize how serious a problem this has become."

HEAVENLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

highlands

02-12-2006, 07:18 PM

N.J is the armpit of the USA. but the dope is good !norfolk Va. i have found some good gear also but it depends on who you know.:speechles

JimmyJoe

02-12-2006, 08:02 PM

With regard to drug havens, I know that Spain has decriminalized personal use of pretty much all drugs. You can still get arrested for dealing but you won't be hassled over personal use. They treat drugs as a health problem and not a criminal issue.

On the New Jersey article, the person quoted saying that Jersey has the most pure heroin is probably just trying to get P.R. because there has been so much talk about getting tough on heroin use in that state. They like to dwell on purity levels and inflate actual figures so they can get the public worked up to support new draconian drug laws. I would take much of that article with a grain of salt, though I have no doubt that there is apparently some high-grade H coming into the state. Purity levels have been pretty constant here in the U.S. lately and they have improved quite a bit over the last few years. Even the tar that is available here in the West ranges up to about 70 percent or so. I think Denver is said to have some of the best H in the West in terms of tar.

blahblahblah

02-15-2006, 06:19 PM

Chicago is unique among American cities in that heroin from all four source areas-South America, Southeast Asia, Southwest Asia, and to a lesser extent Mexico-is available on a consistent basis from year to year.

I have never been let down with the quality of Chicago dope infact out of all the places I have copped nothing is close [and I have cop'd all over the country/world]. As purity rates in NJ, most of those studies dont take into account if the seizures were made in mass quanitities or if it was a street bag. In other words the purity levels are scewed, do you trust the DEA? I dont.

renton

02-15-2006, 07:44 PM

Your all nuts. I wouldent buy H in america in a million years with there insane justice system. When you get caught which you will eventually your looking at jail time and a felony record. Plus being in a american prison is a death sentance in itselfe if your not really tough or in a gang.

dissident

02-16-2006, 02:11 PM

when i lived in san francisco i knew a street corner to buy oc 80's/ h any time any day. the cops were only after dealers so if you could afford to pay the price any thing was easy to get any time...

exitwound

02-16-2006, 05:56 PM

when i lived in san francisco i knew a street corner to buy oc 80's/ h any time any day. the cops were only after dealers so if you could afford to pay the price any thing was easy to get any time...

Good ol' SF. I've only visited for a few weeks at a time, but there is hardly a more beautiful place on Earth for the functional drug-afficionado.

Sadly, SF's dark underbelly swallowed up one of my favorite relatives; so I also have an appreciation for its dangerous side as well....

SleazyP

02-16-2006, 11:00 PM

I have been trying to research this very idea myself, after seeing huge black kilo bricks of black tar on the news last night it got me tyhinking again. I'll def let you know any good ideas I get.

Can't we just start our own country? Finance it with other like minded people....hmmm

For real, this tyranny I live under really sucks for my lifestyle.

skeletontea

02-16-2006, 11:42 PM

Can't we just start our own country? Finance it with other like minded people....hmmm

I'm not sure a nation run by addicts would be a good idea. Even if it were feasable, the American government wouldn't let it last (we really are the world police).

caesee

02-17-2006, 05:13 PM

Good ol' SF. I've only visited for a few weeks at a time, but there is hardly a more beautiful place on Earth for the functional drug-afficionado.

Sadly, SF's dark underbelly swallowed up one of my favorite relatives; so I also have an appreciation for its dangerous side as well....

Last time SWIm was in San Fran. he was hit up on the street to buy pills. The dude had oxys, percs, and vics, SWIM friend gave the guy a $30 had he got a 4 oxy, and 7 percs. Opie heavon could be any place as long as you got the right connections....:D

poppy

02-17-2006, 05:20 PM

Opie heavon could be any place as long as you got the right connections....:D
http://forum.opiophile.org/images/gnome/statusicon/user_online.gif http://forum.opiophile.org/images/gnome/buttons/reputation.gif (http://forum.opiophile.org/reputation.php?p=12904) http://forum.opiophile.org/images/gnome/buttons/report.gif (http://forum.opiophile.org/report.php?p=12904) Good answer...... I've been pondering the opie heaven question for a good while now and that just about fits what I've been thinking and didn't know how to say!!
Thanks
Laters

blackdog

02-17-2006, 09:47 PM

What can I say.....I'm a northern new england yankee bastid snob :D :rolleyes: :cool: ;)

bloody wicked,yah aye......how's bout a cap of caffee where you pack yah cah by havad yad
a cup of coffee.......a cupp ov caughffee
all youse fast talkin citi slickers...............................but seriously folks...........
there seems to be a national problem as to why its supposedly a purity spike of wicked high levels when gear is lab tested by pinhead reporters/law enforcement.lately the common problemo seems to be these histamine spikes that'll have you scracthing your ass & nuts off yer bum area and yo face about to explode besides turning brite red and such. all my dealers are clamoring for any/all types of pill/powder form medicinal products to use for stretching all this here pure level dope and such. i've been hounded for any oxy contin,morphone and codone whatever else sedatives etcetc anything else from grandmas medicine cabinet that one 's hands could pilfer just my 18 cent's worth of thought. peace da/dawgg:cool: i smell sumthin burning????????

Saceman1

02-27-2006, 06:09 PM

Well, a few years ago, Thailand was dopeseekers' Mecca. Easy to score. Cheap as hell. Just keep an extra $50 in your backpocket to bribe cops. Just DO NOT try to smuggle it out or buy smugglable quantities. Ahh ... memories. :) What the hell am I doing here??

Coddfish

02-27-2006, 07:02 PM

Thailand's dope mecca is no more, brother. They cracked down hardcore, and things shifted to methamphetamines or 'yaa baa'. Shit was all over the place a couple of years ago, but dope was actually pretty hard to come by in Bangkok. Never made it north to like chiang mai or chiang rai though, so maybe still there? Laos was nice.;)

SomniGod

02-28-2006, 12:07 PM

Hmm....How well do you cook? The real question is....how do you feel about tar, feathers, and chicken blood? And do you live near Clearwater?

Don't tease me pointed! Not nice! You know I'm all bout some freaky uh-huh! Tar, yup...feathers...definitely...blood....nah...how bout some red hydrocodone-tussion syrup instead?!!!!

wow...never thought of using my tussionex in erotic sense...that could be hella-fun!!!

As for cooking~
I can cook up some food fit for SomniGods! Nah, but for real, I can cook! My dream is to open a bar & grille...run it unitl it's paid...then retire and kick back at the end of the bar..playing pool and making sure nobody's knockin off! Man, I can't wait!

oh...looks like you aren't too far...couple hours.:p

Just holla at me!!!!;)

~S~

new2thegamepgh

09-19-2006, 10:22 AM

I am from that part of the world, well i was born here but go there every few years. And let em tell you it is close to opie heaven.
Open pharmy's, benzo's, morphine, nitrous oxide damn near anythign u want. SHit go hook urself up with a morphine drip if u want.
In Peshawer, north pakistan by afghanistan. There are communities of white people living their just for the H. Alot of germans and people from UK. If u spend $500 US, you would have enough dope to last prob. 2-3 months for 2 people, and thats doing it all day everyday.
Also any law enforcement problems you can bribe yourself out of. Living in KArachi (s. Pakistan ) is the most like America, very modern city. Chicks everywhere they date, dont cover themselves etc. but it is the furthest away from the H. U still got the pharmy's but not the H.
Go there, pay a taxi driver $30 US and he will do everything for u. Also any type pf American education can land u a decent job over there. 100K coudl retire you their comfortably for 10 years or so if you live somewhat meagerly. I try to convince my girl to go there but she scared on what she see's in the news. But I am sure we will end up ther eventually.
In Pittsburgh the shit si maybe 5% pure if ur lucky. In NYC maybe 30% fi you got a good hookup. You go there and its uncut.You can cut that shit twice make it 25% pure and its off the hook. ALot of options.Then u can alwasy cut it less adn less as ur tolerance gets higher.

edhorfin

09-19-2006, 01:37 PM

Opiyum

09-19-2006, 01:38 PM

Opi Heaven? Yeah that's about right......^^^^Dont ask for drugs dingle!

HARD NAILS

09-19-2006, 01:42 PM

Dingle!!! Thanks

Opiyum

09-19-2006, 01:43 PM

Never been an abuser and then you OD??.....Opiates make it harder to se in the dark in my experience....unless its some sort of metaphor that im missing.....

southernbelle

09-19-2006, 03:32 PM

Anyone seen the news today? Thailand was thrown over by the military. Major coup! I don't think I'll be going there anytime soon.....:(

antony

09-19-2006, 03:36 PM

Anyone seen the news today? Thailand was thrown over by the military. Major coup! I don't think I'll be going there anytime soon.....:(

yea, my buddy's over there right now. he's supposed to be coming home in the next few weeks. his family is military tho. so he should be cool.

shaunclo

09-19-2006, 04:37 PM

Opiates make it harder to se in the dark in my experience....unless its some sort of metaphor that im missing.....

Wow Opie, I dont think I have ever heard wiser words spoken before my friend, and it aint no metaphor. Very very very well thought out and said my friend..........KUDOS!!!!!

Opiyum

09-19-2006, 04:53 PM

antony

09-19-2006, 04:57 PM

Opiyum

09-19-2006, 05:01 PM

I can only imagine the coolness, the badness etc..

antony

09-19-2006, 05:14 PM

this should give you an idea
http://www.bestbuyeyeglasses.com/images/products/large/03845064.jpg

chemboy7

09-19-2006, 05:20 PM

Hey I'm just trying to learn Ant's secrets. Dude reminds me of Fonzi or something. Walk into any building and just snap his fingers. Opi start writing down Ant's secrets in case I miss something.

dorje

09-19-2006, 10:00 PM

Teaneck, New Jersey or Bhutan. No..No maybe 125th Street and Amsterdam in the Big Apple. No...wait...I know it's where ever the opium is free, the women eager and the oxymorphone strong-Turkey.

new2thegamepgh

09-21-2006, 01:04 PM

Great thread. Very educational. I don't think I'd like to live outside the U.S., though. Pod availability has made almost anywhere in the US pretty good. The risk to return ratio is excellent. No, I don't get an H rush, but I can live without it. I also don't have to worry about being involved with the drug/criminal subculture and all the health risks associated with street drugs and/or injections. I was a junkie for quite a while, a long time ago, and really don't want to go back.

The idea of an H Vacation may have some legs, though. IS there and underground travel agency for such an adventure? I haven't checked the net or read a High Times. Sounds like an interesting business. I'd volunteer to be a researcher....

I actually looked into this H vacation business venture. The problem out there is that most opi users are kinda broke. Its not liek the sex vaca's to thailand where the pervs pay 5,000 just to go. The US govt would crack down hard. Shit we'd haev dateline undercover on there. Instaed of how to catch a predator it'd be how to rid the US population of its Heroin problem. G.W. Bush would be like lets round em up adn ship em off!!!!

In all reality our prison population would probably be half of what it is if our govt. did that.
You'd be surprised bout Pakistan tho, they have everythign we do. KFC, McDonalds, cell phones everything. No alcohol though unless you go to the US embassy to party. But in Northern Paki they have imported Russian Vodka. I love it there its crazy tho. The way prostitution works there is you marry the prostitute for a few hours, go bang the shit out of her then walk downstairs & get the marriage annulled. Then its not prostitution its a marriage introduction company.:D HAHAH, the way people get away with things. What you have to realize is that a Dr. makes about $300 a month. SO imagine who u can hire. I mean u can get 2 bodyguards for $5 a day just for protection, and thats paying them well.
One thign i hated tho, was the only cereal they haev is damn corn flakes, not frosted flakes just some plain ass corn flakes. Good fruit tho, mangos, oranges and sugar cane.
You'll see old ass en sittign in the village with 4 ft hookahs smoking cow dung and opium all day long. They dont ever move they just sit and BS. True fact, the cow dung costs more than the opium or gasoline. You getsmugglers from Iran bringin in tankers filled with gasoline. Charging 15 cents a gallon. Thast their whole job is drive back adn forth and sell the stolen gas.

Opiyum

09-21-2006, 01:34 PM

Hairy balls of the Gods another Pittsburgher!

new2thegamepgh

09-21-2006, 01:57 PM

Do u have a problm with pittsburghers Opy? Or is it just the desperate dude? P.M. me sometime just to BS shit if u want. Read ur threads u seem like ur not the average dipshit.

Opiyum

09-21-2006, 02:04 PM

NO I love the burgh lived here almost my whole life. There are an abnormal amount of Yinzers here thats all. I would be willing to bet there are more people here from pittsburgh than any other one city.
Who is this "Desperate Dude"? Is this the man The Eagles keep singing about.

Nevermind I know who it is.

new2thegamepgh

09-21-2006, 02:51 PM

Dont know, people seem to be gettign pissed at harryPothead for keep asking.
I feel ya on the Yinzers my girl is from the North Side buch of yinzers there. I live east side of burgh.
Why do u think so many Pittsburgh people here, ive seen 3 or 4.
So u been doing well? see ur takign subs right now. I got a nice lil formula if ur ever going thru detox u might want to try out. Hope u keep it up. I go to that priority healthcare in Oakland to get my subs. U ever go to a PGh methadone clinic? All the ones ive seen dont make it very easy to get in. My friend has to go there 3 times a week to get his. I aint got time for all that shit.
anyhow owuld liekto talk to u either P.m., email whatever to BS.

LayinLow

09-21-2006, 03:04 PM

I actually looked into this H vacation business venture. The problem out there is that most opi users are kinda broke. Its not liek the sex vaca's to thailand where the pervs pay 5,000 just to go. The US govt would crack down hard. Shit we'd haev dateline undercover on there. Instaed of how to catch a predator it'd be how to rid the US population of its Heroin problem. G.W. Bush would be like lets round em up adn ship em off!!!!

In all reality our prison population would probably be half of what it is if our govt. did that.
You'd be surprised bout Pakistan tho, they have everythign we do. KFC, McDonalds, cell phones everything. No alcohol though unless you go to the US embassy to party. But in Northern Paki they have imported Russian Vodka. I love it there its crazy tho. The way prostitution works there is you marry the prostitute for a few hours, go bang the shit out of her then walk downstairs & get the marriage annulled. Then its not prostitution its a marriage introduction company.:D HAHAH, the way people get away with things. What you have to realize is that a Dr. makes about $300 a month. SO imagine who u can hire. I mean u can get 2 bodyguards for $5 a day just for protection, and thats paying them well.
One thign i hated tho, was the only cereal they haev is damn corn flakes, not frosted flakes just some plain ass corn flakes. Good fruit tho, mangos, oranges and sugar cane.
You'll see old ass en sittign in the village with 4 ft hookahs smoking cow dung and opium all day long. They dont ever move they just sit and BS. True fact, the cow dung costs more than the opium or gasoline. You getsmugglers from Iran bringin in tankers filled with gasoline. Charging 15 cents a gallon. Thast their whole job is drive back adn forth and sell the stolen gas.
Sounds like a crazy place. The few times I went overseas was to Eastern Europe and Italy both times. The culture there is so much different, I can't imagine what some middle-eastern towns/cities are like.

Opiyum

09-21-2006, 03:11 PM

I dont think you can do the PM and email is outa the question at this point.
I dont know why there are so many pittsburghers here. I might be the most direct reason but I think there are alot of junkies in Pburgh. We have a very large old population of people who are getting all kinds of meds and who need good money for them...we have a very large young population looking to buy those meds. Also we are the Keystone state and (as i have said before) I think that alot of drugs must come through here via 70, 79 and 90 from NY and Philly to the mid west. Plus being the blue collar town we were for so long (steel city and all) Alcoholism runs in almost every families blood here. That will translate to opiates down the line.....This is just my theory. Im probably full of shit.
The Subs arent for maintainance as much as they are for profit, security and trade. I take a very very small dose and only twice a day but those days are spread out between the good days in which I am heavily opiated. Last couple weeks have been more Subs than Dope unfortunately though.
I dont plan on detoxing for.....ever.
I went to Priority healthcare three years ago. Boulevard of the Allies right? They still got that hot chick working reception?
I went to a Meth Clinic in the south hills (it was closer to where i was working) for abotu three months. Quit for the same reasons you mentioned Plus some.

You should look into seeing a doctor to get prescribed the Subs. If the prices are the same as they used to be at Priority then you could save a lot of money and a doc will prescribe more and will not try to ween you anytime soon. I think Priority has changed their ways though. At least thats what I have heard so maybe your okay,

trainwrecker

09-21-2006, 03:59 PM

What about Detroit? There is already a pretty good colony of junkies living in the expansive urban prarie.

new2thegamepgh

09-21-2006, 05:36 PM

Hell yeah. My friend sells them to me cheaper than priority healthcare(blvd.) does ridiculous.I was gonna go to a Dr. but i think it will be on my medical records then. SO any trips to the ER(if im really desperate) would be useless. I guess im just paranoid of any information being recorded in some databaase. Shit ive been reading this site for months but only registered the other day. At P.H. u dont even have to give ur real name. SO i gues its worth the extra $.

No they replaced the chick with some guy unless she is there some other days, i go fridays, but they still got Kathy or Mary or something she is a sweety(the nurse who you see for everything.) I'd get the 8's but she knows i like the 2's better and would alwasy throw in like 8 more 2's for free.That place is a money making machine, not really out for the good of their patients. Be careful with the subs,i took 1 early 1 day then ended up using 6-7 hour later adn it did send me into immediate withdrawal. You really do have to wait the 12 hour period since last use, after soem experimenting i even wait 14-16 hours or until im puking or shitting.

I feel you on the email thang, no biggie. I just thought that mayeb this site had some way of IM'ing. Yeah there are a lot of users in Pittsburgh, i think everybody went from OC's to bags now. People are like fuck it instead of buying an 80 for $60, i cant get 6 bags. Shit i'll blow thru like 3 80's to get a buzz. It sucks but at this point it isnt about feeling good its about not feeling like shit. Sometimes makes me want to move to Pakistan or Burma or some where its cheap and pure.

Did you see that thing on dateline? Its an instant detox, they put u under and implant som weird thing into ur skin adn it gives u a total physical detox by the time you awake from anesthesia. Then it has those inhibitors that block the opiates from working. The Dr. said he has seen patients cut open their own skin with a scalple to rip out the little chip they implant. Instant detox. I guess its worth the money if you are really ready to quit.They sadi it was $3,000 but ive heard its more like 5,000.

trainwrecker

09-21-2006, 05:46 PM

Instant Detox is a SCAM. I have heard multiple reports of people waking up shortly after they were put down for the supposed 3 days in horrible withdrawl, only to find the nurses totaly incompatent to any other way to help with W/Ds. Read up on that shit, it's too good to be true.

Opiyum

09-21-2006, 10:58 PM

I've yet to go into WD's because of Suboxone in any way. Ihave taken my suboxone as early as four hours after using. It was Fent that I had used that day when I woke up.
I would suggest getting 8 milli subs if you ever go the prescription route they cost less.
All information that your doctor records from you is in no way traceable. I suppose there is always away but chances are noone is ever gonna want to spend the time tracking that information down. It doesnt show up on your average drug test and legally you dont have to tell your employer about it and they cant ask.
Anyway I wouldnt worry about it especially in an ER situation.
Take it easy out there and if you run into HPothead help him out.

Beautifully_Broken

09-24-2006, 12:57 AM

kyuss

10-07-2006, 10:10 PM

this should give you an idea
http://www.bestbuyeyeglasses.com/images/products/large/03845064.jpg

nice shades

CUBErt

10-11-2006, 02:40 AM

wow...i never connected my opiate use to the fact that i cant drive in the dark because i cant see....and to the fact that when im driving on the hwy at night all the other cars headlights hurt my eyes!

i love yall!

Yea I thought that might be the case for me also.... but then I realized I was simply nodding out and swerving

antony

10-11-2006, 04:12 PM

nice shades

thanks man. They actually fade from dark brown(top) to normal(bottom)

djnarkotik

10-26-2006, 08:51 PM

This is an awesome discussion. Id love to go on an opiate holiday somewhere for opium or whatever. cheap drugs and jus get high all day while being in a different country.

Its just too bad the golden triangle area has greatly reduced their opium production. The last place where a good bet for opium there would be myanmar as the state is run by the military. Thailand and laos opium production os almost gone now.

I guess the obvious new opium heaven is afghanistan or around that area in asia. Granted afghanistan isnt too safe, although the north of the coutry is stable, A kg of opium of opium from the farms is just over 100 us!!! that would last me like two years getting high for 100$$. well maybe a bit less ha ha. would love to go there when it gets a bit safer.

nick

10-27-2006, 10:30 AM

Yeah, real shame about the triangle,much better food and nightlife than the crescent.

djnarkotik

10-27-2006, 12:16 PM

Has anyone on here ever been to afghanistan?

kyuss

10-27-2006, 12:22 PM

Whenever
Opie Heaven is
I'm sure Dorje is there
adding to the bliss.

greenfox

11-07-2006, 11:03 AM

On ADH, someone wrote that she obtained free heroin in Holland and was able to adjust her dose freely. I can't attest to the veracity of this never having been there.

been to Holland 8 times+ ... they are liberal, yes.... but unless u r dutch, u r gonna get ripped off.. there ARE street dealers that will come up to you and offer u stuff... 1/2 the time they are Dutch UC./.. the other 1/2 the time they are phonies or junkies looking to sell u buff.

MELBURN NIGGUH

11-11-2006, 12:47 AM

lol... 8 times , did you use drugs all the 8 times there ?
of course you will get ripped if you dont know no one , but then what would you expect.... like going to score heroin in an american city without knowing english...... would you get ripped ? of course you would. anyway the dutch are so used to the drug tourists, even on the german border the some german 'tourists' that dont know no one yet and go over to score whatever they want will get ripped... Human nature. anyway did you notice , well i havent been to the 'dam , but NL in general the people have a big no no with needles , i mean here most meth users inject , there youre seen as the most fucking hardcore junkie if you do that yet they snort the shit in gram loads and eat eccies by the dozen and smoke fucking so much weed that it made me sick from just going over to my friends place because the whole house reeks of it and theparents fucking smpoke so much also, yet when they found out iwas using needles they treated me... bit diffreently. Even their local junkies dont fucking inject the shit some of em never injected it... like a fucking different world to em. stupid.
England was way better.

About going to Afghanistan to score; No Comment...... LOL

djnarkotik

11-14-2006, 08:24 AM

About going to Afghanistan to score; No Comment...... LOL

I should elaborate on what i meant, clearly acquiring drugs would be a complicated process for a forigener in afghan or any other foriegn country really. But where there is a will there is a way. for example if you knew an afghan you trusted which i do, u could get them to get u some shit over there.

devilsdrug

11-14-2006, 08:43 AM

once many many yrs ago i got package from afg, actually a book , actuallly had it sent to library down the street, actually had to razpr blade the bindings and hardcover, hashish had a friend who lived there for years

djnarkotik

11-25-2006, 10:21 AM

hey u guys know where there are the most opiate users in the world? IRAN. thats by percentage of population i think.

Very interesting no?? I guess with Afghan being number one opium producer, Surrounding areas are now good places to get opiates. Pakistan and Iran probably have an amazing supply of cheap opium and H.

AWOL

11-25-2006, 10:28 AM

TABAKMAN

11-27-2006, 04:41 AM

SINGAPORE BECAUSE YOU ONLY GET 10 YEARS FoR POSSESSION BUT THE DEALERS GET DEATH, HAHAHHAHA

Karlin

11-28-2006, 02:45 PM

You never noticed that your eyes dont adjust when high and in the dark? You know how it hurts when the light gets turned on after youve been in the dark. Well try it some time when your high. Sit in the dark for awhile then turn on the light. Since your eyes didnt adjust it wont hurt your eyes. You'll be able to look right into the light....or were you being sarcastic?

Seeing in the dark - interesting that last night the power went off for 30 minutes here, shortly after my last dose of the day. I managed to wander around my apt okay, and found some candles eventually.

Before I lit the candles I could see pretty good, after about three minutes of total darkness. I have allways had good night vision tho, maybe its a gift.

For sure I would agree that bright lights and opiates do not go well. Logically, that should mean we are sensitive to light in that state, so dark-vision should be better. One oddity is that our pupils go small when we got opies on board, I guess as a way to cope with the light sensitivity... and so small pupils should mean my dark-vision should not work very well, but it does.

Reaction, adapting, and then a coping reaction. So complex, yet it works. Cool, I love nature.