Syrian Rue Extration Experiences?

[Hammilton]

hey, I'm wondering if anyone here has tried Syrian Rue (Peganum Harmala) either as seeds or as a pure extract, and what effects you've gotten.

It sounds like a decent marijuana-like trip, mildly psychedelic thoughts, mild sedation, but excessive visual distortion at higher doses.

it also sounds like a high risk of vomiting, but I haven't seen that to be very true when people use extracts.

I guess in light of my interest in MMDA, the idea of a potent psychedelic, strongly visual CEV's- the sort of slide-show 3d images, spiritual sort of stuff, would be great.

I have 114 grams of the stuff, so why not make some extract up?

someone taked about smoking it and said that it was great that way. I'll probably try that route first (since it lasts shortest) then I'll try 2 grams worth of seeds as an extract orally.

any advice or experience with Rue as a pure compound (not mixed with a DMT plant or Shrooms) would be very appreciated.

ANyone know where I can find a good list of what I shouldn't eat and for how long?

I regularly take Lunesta (3mg tabs) and Suboxone (8mg tabs) but can skip two days of either, if I can use the other to fill in for me.

[OxyContinuously]

Hammilton

if ur going to use the Rue, why not get some B.Caapi vine or another DMT containing plant material and go for ayahuasca...Rue on its own is an MAOI, I have tried it, nothing special, makes u a bit drowsy, thoughts wander a *little*---> nothing major....it's true magic is unleashed when it is mixed w/ the vine i mentioned (Banisteropsis (sp?) Caapi vine or Psychotria Viridis bark, each readily avail. online and both contain high levels of molecular dimethyltryptamine---> the rue, or P. harmala, or any other *strong* Maoi is needed becasue DMT ain't active orally.

by the way, ayahuasca is a powerful trip, I would recommend it only if u are exp. w/ acid, shrooms, and another simple tryptamine, such as DPT (dipropyltryptamine) be4 u do it

hope that helped

later
peace out

Oxy

[Hammilton]

According to just about every report I've seen the Harmala alkaloids in tandem produce profound visual effects open eye, and photorealistic CEVs, commonly of flying through jungles.

along with some sedation, and some of the thought alteration.

my interest is in the CEVs.

honestly, from everything I've read it sounds like marijuana with true visual effects

[OxyContinuously]

According to just about every report I've seen the Harmala alkaloids in tandem produce profound visual effects open eye, and photorealistic CEVs, commonly of flying through jungles.

along with some sedation, and some of the thought alteration.

my interest is in the CEVs.

honestly, from everything I've read it sounds like marijuana with true visual effects

yeah, you *will* get visuals, CEV mostly, but Hamm, the only thing is that Harmala and even the Rue is extremely nauseating sometimes...a very seasick sorta high, u know what i mean, bro? when u add the dmt, it kinda detracts from the nausea at the same time activating the dmt...

trust me, just the harmala or just the rue, you'll be disappointed..

later and congratulations again on your marriage, brotha!! (PM me if u want any ayahuasca recipes and shit like that, and by the way i got ur other message, just got a lot of shit to do this wk, so i didnt get a chance to really answer anyone; just so u dont think i ignored ya ;-)

later
Oxy

peace out
Oxy

[Hammilton]

Oh I snubbed all the time, no need to be making excuses ;)

I might have a dozen Cebil seeds left that if I had them, would magicly vaporize with no warning, giving me a pretty decent trip. If only, huh?

I'm planning to do a very thorough Acid/Base extraction down to purish crystals. It's a pretty easy technique with Harmala, and with 114 grams, I've got more than enough.

even at 4%abw (that's alkaloid by weight... wonder why no one else thought of the beer thing before me? or did they?)

anyway, even at 4%abw, that'd be 4.5 grams of pure alkaloids. I think 4% is a realistic, but high average. It's probably more like 2-4, but I'm too lazy to recalculate.

hammilton

[superman]

i get it already extracted, tried it a few times with other drugs, every time resulted in an overdose that likely caused some brain damage. don't fuck with it unless observing the required dietary restictions and only use it to activate DMT or an analog.

or don't listen to everyone in the world and kill yourself