Fucked up muscles-a proper medicine?

[gerapa]

Hi, dear all!
Once again greetings from sunny Bulgaria (the oldest crafted gold in the world was found here, this is the first officially established country in Europe, we have THE BEST YOGHURT in the world (the bacteria that is used in produsing yoghurt is called 'lactobacilicus BULGARICUS' because Bulgaria officially produces the best quality yoghurt in the entire world!). By the way, the list goes on and on but this list is also totally off-topic: Just another junkie's "bragging rights":).
NOW ON THE POINT: Please tell me how to make my muscles heal (I use my opiates IM during the last almost 3 years because of shot out veins). I have visited 2 doctors and the results were: 1 told me to leave ASAP and even called security, the other just told me that he has no idea!
Few days ago I almost broke a 23 gauge needle in my ass- this is how hard mu muscles have become. Then when I pulled the needle out it was bent by 45 degrees right at the middle. I basically can no longer use my shoulders. If you know good medicines (for both external and internal use) please advice! Lately I am having some mental health issues on the rise so I really need help. I have gone to surgeons for a total of 8 vein abbcesses (2 per every limb and I have the scars to show for those). However, I know from friends that muscle abbcesses are a hold different story. Please help me!
P.S. I know that this thread is for the 'Harm Reduction' Section but I intentionally put it here so that more people would read it. I also have a 'secret' e-mail: qwe0898456@yahoo.com. If I am not allowed to post this e-mail here, please Mr./Ms Moderator, erase the e-mail but leave the thread. I REALLY need adequate answers to my question(s) and I am sure that manu other folks need precisely the same info.
P.S.2: I also bugged my local needle-exchange program with this question (How to make mu fucked up muscles heal).: They were totally unprepared to answer this question. Still, they are all good caring individuals.
Once again sorry for this long post that really asks for an answer to a health issue. HELP b/c I am hurting badly. Thanks for your attention guys/gals! I hope you never get so fucked up physically by shooting dope, I really do. And I am just 25!
PLEASE HELP ME, I DO NOT WANT TO BE FORCED TO START SHOOTING IN MY 'VENA CAVA' (groin area). Thank you in advance and have atleast 2 or 3 good laughs today. gerapa from Sofia, Bulgaria (as already stated, Bulgaria is a magnificent country- ask sister Rags if you do not beleive me). Cheers!

[Duckfeet]

I'll let the other moderators decide on the *area* of posting, but it sounds like u really want help, and more people that *know* about this stuff, are often keeping an eye on "harm reduction..." but I'm glad u asked, and I know *me*...I've had some *really* screwed up muscles, mostly from the crappy ass *tar* I was doing for a while, and first, somehow, some way, I *had* to quit doing that crap. For me, that meant getting on methadone...and once I got up to a good *blocking* dose, in my case 100mg a day, I quit all craving for that crap, and am *still* happy about it, so that is my *first* deal.

Second, my muscles healed. Of course, if u *have* any infection or anything, u need to see a doc, but if it is just knotty and hard...mine got much better: I'm feeling my biceps right now, and I can't even feel any of the bumps that used to be there..so stopping, taking care of yourself, is first bit of advice...

Can u get on methadone over there?

Let me know, and I'll see if ur better of here, or in Harm Reduction...

(Moved to harm reduction: better chance of finding people who actually know about how to help)

Best wishes,,,,

[oxydose]

shit man, get to a proper fucking doctor i'd say.

I'd had a needle break off before that is *still* lost in my arm, it healed up just fine and I've never had any problems from it as of yet. But as you say you seem to be expirencing a mutlitude of problems that really no one over a internet message board can properly help you with.

See a doctor man, if not that than atleast find some good anti-biotics and eat them daily until your out. Thats what i'd do atleast, but im no doctor.

You really need to post this in Harm Reduction or atleast PM candy about it, she is the moderator of the HR forum and is also a involved in health care services, so she should know better than most here.

good luck man, seriously.

edit; ^ yeah like Duckfeet said, Methadone works wonders, even if you do end up trading off addictions atleast you won't be mainlining the Done' (seriously, don't do that, it won't help any). But yeah it does sound like to me you need to give that needle a break even if it only ends up being a short time, I know it becomes a habit in itself thats hard to break, but seriously you really sound pretty fucked up right now bro.

[Duckfeet]

Yeah, I moved u over to harm reduction: that's what it's for, and better chance of getting somebody in health field, might know about this...

But yeah, like oxydose said, u have to stop IMing it or this is a waste of time. I had to stop doing tar altogether...I was no methadone fan, but once I got on it, my muscles *and* veins started getting better....

Another choice *might* be buprenorphine...my recommendation would be suboxone, since if u got subutex, u might be like me, and begin to fix it too, which is *also* bad for veins and muscles....

what is available over there? either one of these?

[pharmboy]

Gerapa Im going to tell you something I know you
dont want to hear. It's time to stop shooting the
shit my man. My muscels got all hard and wasted
from repeated Demeral shots when I was in the
hospital. Im affraid you have to give them a rest.
The consequenses of not doing this are not good.
I dont know of any medicine that will help, you
just have to give them time to heal. Find some
good pills you can take by mouth to keep the WD
away in the mean time .
Hey Gerapa whats all this about nurses killing kids with HIV
on trial. It sounds very complicated !
GOOD LUCK Gerapa:)

[soulman]

WOW is all i can say...WOW

and Duckfeet what's with all the *hgdh*dghdgh*dgh*gh*dh*d*hd*h***hd*hd*h***** makes shit a little annoying to read bro, ease up on the asteriks please:D

[Duckfeet]

Yer right. I did overdo it. In old days, when all we had was ascii text, only way to emphasize words was with asteriks, there was no bold or underline or stuff u could use, like u do now, and obviously I get carried away with it. I'll try to use less, but it'll be hard, I guarantee. Hopefully it's not too obnoxious.





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and Duckfeet what's with all the *hgdh*dghdgh*dgh*gh*dh*d*hd*h***hd*hd*h***** makes shit a little annoying to read bro, ease up on the asteriks please:D

[pharmboy]

Gerapa, I was thinking if you can find some Antibiotics
it would'nt hurt. I don't think it would be a magical cure
or anything but it could'nt hurt ( unless your allergic
to antibiotics ) and maybe some hot compresses ( washcloth)
on the muscels to increase blood flow to that area.

But as always TIME HEALS ALL :sickinbed

[nick]

If you have abscess's now GO TO A DOC.

In terms of shooting IM.The only real answer here is to stop shooting-at least for a while.

In the meantime,'done or bupe or SMOKE your dope.

[gerapa]

Thank you, dear fellows!
The thing about our 6 BELOVED nurses who are on trial in Lybia is a farse to say the least.
1. They are completely innocent. This is a clear case of poor hygiene in Lybian hospitals.
2. Colonel Kadafi (sp?) is a FREAK! He wants to get as much out of this tragedy as possible. The families of EACH infected child have already received 1 million dollars despite the fact that our nurses (and 1 Palestinian doctor who recently became a Bulgarian citizen) HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS. They were working in deplorable conditions and this is a classic 'escape goat' scenario!
Sorry for going off-topic again but we Bulgarians are atleast as patriotic as you Americans, so even thinking about this Lybian AIDS fiasco makes me MAD!
I am looking for professional advice here. Advice about specific medicines... If anyone knows, please share!
And to you UK visitors watch out: Colonel Kadaffi wants the Lokerby convict to be released so that he can let our totally innocent nurses and Palestinian/Bulgarian doctor come home (finally, after almost 9 years of torture).
By the way, what do you have to say on this issue drug (as the only other Bulgarian posting in this forum?).
Once again thanks for the attention and have a lovely funky capitalistically satisfied day TODAY!
(Please excuse my poor English, right now I am hurting pretty badly, that is the main reason..).

[nick]

Don't worry man,my English is poor 24/7 and I am English.

Oh and we all know that the Libyan AIDS thing is political.

Now,back to the yoghurt.

[Duckfeet]

Gerapa:

I think one or two of us posted that u absolutely had to stop IM'ing it...if not, u know, doesn't matter what we suggest. To do this, can you get suboxone, or methadone...do you have a doctor who can prescribe u these, if u do not have clinics?

In any case, gotta take care of ourselves, and of course, a saying here is that: there is no free lunch. It sound's like your muscles are in a bad way. Need to stop IM'ing it, good chance then they'll get better...

And, not your fault, of course, but I want to keep you on this forum, so we got to remember that we have people from all over on here, even Lybia...maybe...so main priority now is getting yer IMing under control...or disappeared from your life, political stuff is for another forum...*thankyou!*



Thank you, dear fellows!
The thing about our 6 BELOVED nurses who are on trial in Lybia is a farse to say the least.
1. They are completely innocent. This is a clear case of poor hygiene in Lybian hospitals.
2. Colonel Kadafi (sp?) is a FREAK! He wants to get as much out of this tragedy as possible. The families of EACH infected child have already received 1 million dollars despite the fact that our nurses (and 1 Palestinian doctor who recently became a Bulgarian citizen) HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS. They were working in deplorable conditions and this is a classic 'escape goat' scenario!
Sorry for going off-topic again but we Bulgarians are atleast as patriotic as you Americans, so even thinking about this Lybian AIDS fiasco makes me MAD!
I am looking for professional advice here. Advice about specific medicines... If anyone knows, please share!
And to you UK visitors watch out: Colonel Kadaffi wants the Lokerby convict to be released so that he can let our totally innocent nurses and Palestinian/Bulgarian doctor come home (finally, after almost 9 years of torture).
By the way, what do you have to say on this issue drug (as the only other Bulgarian posting in this forum?).
Once again thanks for the attention and have a lovely funky capitalistically satisfied day TODAY!
(Please excuse my poor English, right now I am hurting pretty badly, that is the main reason..).

[tui]

WOW is all i can say...WOW

and Duckfeet what's with all the *hgdh*dghdgh*dgh*gh*dh*d*hd*h***hd*hd*h***** makes shit a little annoying to read bro, ease up on the asteriks please:D


aww... i like the asterix thing. it's kinda df's trademark.

i also like "have at least two or three good laughs today.." that is awesome.

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[Duckfeet]

Thanks...For about 1 min. I was pissed, thought, damn, my asteriks, boo-hoo :-( But then I realized, I get on people for not indenting and breaking up paragraphs, for politics, for being mean, etc., and I reread my post, and saw I had gotten kind of carried away, and he was friendly about it, so I can learn too.

It really does go back to old days, before web, and early days, when we had no way to draw attention to words, no "bold" or "underline" or anything, and asteriks, same as "LOL" and "winks" and "smilies" were just a way of communicating in a new medium, and of course, letting people know u knew what was happening on the 'net....but--sigh--time has passed me by, once again...;-)

It's cool, he was right...I can dish it out, I gotta take it too...

*Duckfeet!* ;-)



aww... i like the asterix thing. it's kinda df's trademark.

i also like "have at least two or three good laughs today.." that is awesome.

t